Recently I think it was today or yeste5rday, it was the 30th anniversary of the internet.
The inventor and it actually is one person, was asked to speak about what
As someone who ran a bbs back in the 90's I got a kick out of it because the most obvious difference between the bbs format and the internet is the loss of control when going from bbs to internet. Power is consolidated
You seem to keep confusing "world wide web" and "internet".
The WWW was the first exposure that many had to the Internet. They did not realize it existed before the WWW. It is a common mistake. I probably would not have known had I not been at University at the time. It was called BITNET there. Seems like at some point our email addresses changed, and they began calling it the Internet on campus instead of BITNET.
Recently I think it was today or yeste5rday, it was the 30th anniversary of the internet.
The inventor and it actually is one person, was asked to speak about what he thought about it.
In summary, he said it was a disaster.
On 03-13-19 19:15, Dumas Walker wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-
The WWW was the first exposure that many had to the Internet. They did not realize it existed before the WWW. It is a common mistake. I probably would not have known had I not been at University at the time.
It was called BITNET there. Seems like at some point our email
addresses changed, and they began calling it the Internet on campus instead of BITNET.
I also had some knowledge of USENET around that time. There were some people I could only send email to using the "bang" addresses (lots of
'!' characters instead of '@' and periods).
Vk3jed wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
I joined the Internet in 1994. Back then, the web was in its infancy,
and I spent lot of time using Gopher to search for and retrieve information.
On a recent episode of the Hacker Public Radio podcast, someone gave his home page as a gopher URL.
I remember distinctly back around 1992 or 1993 going to Yahoo.com back when it was entirely edited by hand. Every change they made someone hand-edited it to add a new "site". I had a webpage I started in college for Tandy Computers and remember the day it got "added" to Yahoo. It was the equivalent of getting accepted into college all over again!
I miss those days. The content was a lot better, there was no such thing as commercialism and everyone trying to sell you something, and the information was for the most part factual.
Nowadays, most websites (Even the news websites which is highly dissapointing) are full of click-bait. Our one local news channel every damn day had a "news story" that somehow involved a click to Amazon. Once
I remember distinctly back around 1992 or 1993 going to Yahoo.com back when it was entirely edited by hand. Every change they made someone hand-edited it to add a new "site". I had a webpage I started in college for Tandy Computers and remember the day it got "added" to Yahoo. It was
I thought YAHOO was going to be the "BIG ONE". I was at the bank when the stock went public. The YAHOO search engine was also done manually and GOOGLE blew them out of the water. So did my stock. :-(
Ditto. Yahoo was the be-all of its time. Everyone had a @yahoo email address and their instant messenger was the death of ICQ. Then it all fell apart.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Internet
By: Dmxrob to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Mar 14 2019 11:17 am
I remember distinctly back around 1992 or 1993 going to Yahoo.com back when it was entirely edited by hand. Every change they made someone hand-edited it to add a new "site". I had a webpage I started in college for Tandy Computers and remember the day it got "added" to Yahoo. It was
I thought YAHOO was going to be the "BIG ONE". I was at the bank when the stock went public. The YAHOO search engine was also done manually and GOOGLE blew them out of the water. So did my stock. :-(
I believe BITNET was a specific network that was connected to the Internet. I'm not aware of what the distinction was. I joined the Internet in 1994. Back then, the web was in its infancy, and I spent a lot of time using Gopher to search for and retrieve information.
Ditto. Yahoo was the be-all of its time. Everyone had a @yahoo email address and their instant messenger was the death of ICQ. Then it all fell apart.
I was just thinking about Yahoo! Messenger, and the my.yahoo.com page. I spent a lot of time getting the content just right; I wonder if it's still around?
I deleted all of my Yahoo! accounts after the acquisition and breach. I guess you can't go back, sometimes.
to ICQ. ICQ used to have features that would let you make a small user profile and browse other users' profiles and find a random chat partner, since removed those features though, for some reason.
On 03-14-19 06:41, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On a recent episode of the Hacker Public Radio podcast, someone gave
his home page as a gopher URL.
On 03-15-19 00:06, The Dust Council wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Whatever BITNET was, there is an archive of BITNET related things here:
https://archive.org/details/bitnet_documents
Just in case anyone is curious.
On 03-15-19 11:23, MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
last summer yahoo msger was closed. it was fun to go into yahoo
chatrooms SOMETIMES. i'm not sure people can communicate online on
that level anymore. ---
On 03-15-19 23:40, Brokenmind wrote to Nightfox <=-
Hey Nightfox I had to comment back about that feature. that feature on
icq was how i was first introduced my girlfriend then to my wife now
and we have been a couple for 15 years and married for almost 6 years
now. I have never seen that feature anywere else as well. I started
bbsing back in the 80s and i remember when Prodigy online service first came online and turned into a isp later on way before AOL. anways just
had to chime in about some of my memories of simple times.
Cool! :) I haven't used gopher in years, but have fond memories. :)
Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
On a recent episode of the Hacker Public Radio podcast, someone gave
his home page as a gopher URL.
Cool! :) I haven't used gopher in years, but have fond memories.
:)
On 03-16-19 22:49, Dan Clough wrote to Vk3jed <=-
On a Linux box:
lynx gopherpedia.com
Enjoy! :)
I never liked the idea of random one on one chat. I always need to have some information about people before going that way, as in actual interaction with them. Chatrooms are good for breaking the ice that way.
On 03-17-19 13:23, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
ICQ had small user profiles that you could look at. I actually met
some interesting people from around the world that way and kept in
touch with several of them for quite a while. After a while I wouldn't see some of them them online much anymore, and I've pretty much stopped using ICQ too.
On 03-15-19 11:23, MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
last summer yahoo msger was closed. it was fun to go into yahoo chatrooms SOMETIMES. i'm not sure people can communicate online on that level anymore. ---
They screwed around with messenger. The last incarnation, which got rid of the one on one IM features and made it only a chatroom based system was the end of it for me. :( I used it as a means to keep in touch with friends, which was no longer possible.
They screwed around with messenger. The last incarnation, which got rid of theI miss those classic instant messenger apps. I also want to get rid of
one on one IM features and made it only a chatroom based system was the end of
it for me. :( I used it as a means to keep in touch with friends, which was no
longer possible.
I miss those classic instant messenger apps. I also want to get rid of Facebook messenger and perhaps go back to blackberry messenger.
MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
I miss those classic instant messenger apps. I also want to get rid of Facebook messenger and perhaps go back to blackberry messenger.
probably want people to use Skype now.. But does nobody use instant messengers anymore? Those were one way I would keep in touch with people.
probably want people to use Skype now.. But does nobody use instant
messengers anymore? Those were one way I would keep in touch with
people.
I believe Instant Messaging was popular before the days of unlimited text. Nowadays, most people just SMS back and forth it would seem.
I miss those classic instant messenger apps. I also want to get rid of Facebook messenger and perhaps go back to blackberry messenger.
It was a fragmented, but more vibrant scene back then. I used to run Trillian and later Pidgin, with Yahoo! Messenger, AIM, MSN, a couple
of Jabber servers that friends ran, and Google Chat.
Now it's all Facebook Messenger all the way, with all of the cruft
that accompanies it.
On 03-17-19 20:47, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
are you sure you got that reversed? i remember the chat rooms being
shut down and i kept the yahoo msger going in my pidgin client
I'm not sure why Yahoo Messenger and MSN Messenger disappeared. I suppose I can kinda understand MSN Messenger, since Microsoft bought Skype and they probably want people to use Skype now.. But does nobody use instant messengers
anymore? Those were one way I would keep in touch with people.
I thought Skype was a worse application to chat with compared to MSN
On 3/18/2019 8:21 AM, NIGHTFOX wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON:
I'm not sure why Yahoo Messenger and MSN Messenger disappeared. I suppose I can kinda understand MSN Messenger, since Microsoft bought Skype and they probably want people to use Skype now.. But does nobody use instant messengers
anymore? Those were one way I would keep in touch with people.
I thought Skype was a worse application to chat with compared to MSN Messenger.
I thought Skype was a worse application to chat with compared to MSN Messenger.
On 03-17-19 10:23, MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to VK3JED <=-
I miss those classic instant messenger apps. I also want to get rid of Facebook messenger and perhaps go back to blackberry messenger.
On 03-18-19 11:46, Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Is there a Facebook Messenger application for PCs? I've only seen Facebook Messenger on smartphones.
Is there a Facebook Messenger application for PCs? I've only seen
Facebook Messenger on smartphones.
It's integrated into the FB website.
I miss those classic instant messenger apps. I also want to get rid
of Facebook messenger and perhaps go back to blackberry messenger.
They were great apps in their day. FB Messenger has pretty much taken over now. There's also other useful ones like Telegram, etc.
so I wasn't sure if they meant on their smartphone or on the desktop. And it seems weird that Facebook's messenging feature is integrated on their web site for desktops, but now for smartphones they force the use of their separate Facebook Messenger app. I don't want to install that, so if I want to message someone on Facebook from my smartphone, I have the browser
chat and allowed you to send files to/from your contacts, for instance, and I don't think Facebook Messenger does that.
On 03-20-19 17:39, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I know, but I was wondering about a stand-alone application. Someone
said something like they ditched Yahoo Messenger in favor of Facebook Messenger, so I wasn't sure if they meant on their smartphone or on the desktop. And it seems weird that Facebook's messenging feature is integrated on their web site for desktops, but now for smartphones they force the use of their separate Facebook Messenger app. I don't want
to install that, so if I want to message someone on Facebook from my smartphone, I have the browser request the desktop version of the site, and I can use the messaging feature in the browser that way.
On 03-20-19 17:42, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Facebook messenger is useful if you and your contacts use Facebook.
Not everyone uses Facebook though.. And compared to other messengers, Facebook's messenger doesn't do as much. Yahoo Messenger could do
video chat and allowed you to send files to/from your contacts, for instance, and I don't think Facebook Messenger does that.
Facebook's messenger doesn't do as much. Yahoo Messenger could do video chat and allowed you to send files to/from your contacts, for instance,
Facebook's messenger doesn't do as much. Yahoo Messenger could do
video chat and allowed you to send files to/from your contacts, for
instance,
Nightfox... that is the reason I use FB Messenger, videocalling to Apple iOS users as I dont have Facetime (Android user here). Sometimes I also use Whatsapp video calling but fb messenger works better for me. I can also use video calling on the web version, whatsapp doesnt do this.
Yeah, not sure why FB did things this way, but you can use Pidgin as a Messenger client, provided you give it a third party app login. I did it a while back as a test, though it's redundant here.
On 03-21-19 20:35, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yeah, not sure why FB did things this way, but you can use Pidgin as a Messenger client, provided you give it a third party app login. I did it a while back as a test, though it's redundant here.
i thought they removed that functionality. though, the way fb is, they add stuff and remove it and add it back in.
i was actually testing encrypted chat with a buddy of mine on fb using pidgin and fb detected it as such and said [encrypted] in their display
of the conversation.
On 3/18/2019 8:21 AM, NIGHTFOX wrote to MATTHEW MUNSON:
I havent used an actual instant messenger in a long time. i used to use AIM when i was 12ish but after that i steered clearI'm not sure why Yahoo Messenger and MSN Messenger disappeared. I suppose I
can kinda understand MSN Messenger, since Microsoft bought Skype and they probably want people to use Skype now.. But does nobody use instant messengers
anymore? Those were one way I would keep in touch with people.
I thought Skype was a worse application to chat with compared to MSN Messenger.
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Re: Re: Inventor of the Interi liked skype for a while but eventually moved due to my community all deciding to go to greener pastures, i dont hear much
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to NIGHTFOX on Mon Mar 18 2019 11:24 am
I thought Skype was a worse application to chat with compared to MSN
Both seemed okay to me. And Skype actually seemed to have one of the best video chat features available.
Nightfox
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i liked skype for a while but eventually moved due to my community all deciding to go to greener pastures, i dont hear much
about skype nowadays. i cant tell if my friends are joking about this or not but isnt skype full of malware now?
Jojo wrote to Nightfox <=-
i liked skype for a while but eventually moved due to my community all deciding to go to greener pastures, i dont hear much about skype
nowadays.
Jojo wrote to Nightfox <=-
i liked skype for a while but eventually moved due to my community all deciding to go to greener pastures, i dont hear much about skype nowadays.
Millenials treat Skype like Facebook - it's for old people.
Millenials treat Skype like Facebook - it's for old people.
so what are the millenial pukes using?
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Jojo on Sun Mar 24 2019 08:10 am
Jojo wrote to Nightfox <=-
i liked skype for a while but eventually moved due to my community a deciding to go to greener pastures, i dont hear much about skype nowadays.
Millenials treat Skype like Facebook - it's for old people.
so what are the millenial pukes using?the new chat client people in my age group typically use now is Discord. im not sure what else there is though, something called Matrix has been catching on too but i dont quite know how widespread its gotten as i only know three people who've used it to try it out.
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the new chat client people in my age group typically use now is Discord. im not sure what else there is though, something called Matrix has been catching on too but i dont quite know how widespread its gotten as i only know three people who've used it to try it out.
Millenials treat Skype like Facebook - it's for old people.
so what are the millenial pukes using?
Discord.
I think there are too many chat clients out there now days. Everyone uses something different. Slack, Hipchat, Discord, Telegram, Jabber, WhatsApp, Mastodon, Matrix, Rocketchat, Hangouts, Skype, GroupMe or IRC. And those are just the ones off the top of my head that I've come across.
I think there are too many chat clients out there now days. Everyone uses something different. Slack, Hipchat, Discord, Telegram, Jabber, WhatsApp, Mastodon, Matrix, Rocketchat, Hangouts, Skype, GroupMe or IRC. And those are just the ones off the top of my head that I've come across.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I haven't even heard of Discord. But if it's anything like ICQ vs. MSN Messenger vs. Yahoo Messenger vs. Skype etc., I'm not sure if a
different IM program would bring anything significantly new, or why the need to use a different one just because others are "for old people"..
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 24 2019 05:46 pm
Millenials treat Skype like Facebook - it's for old people.
so what are the millenial pukes using?
Discord.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 24 2019 05:46 pm
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Jojo on Sun Mar 24 2019 08:10 am
Jojo wrote to Nightfox <=-
i liked skype for a while but eventually moved due to my community a deciding to go to greener pastures, i dont hear much about skype nowadays.
Millenials treat Skype like Facebook - it's for old people.
so what are the millenial pukes using?the new chat client people in my age group typically use now is Discord. im not sure what else there is though, something called Matrix has been catching on too but i dont quite know how widespread its gotten as i only know three people who've used it to try it out.
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so what are the millenial pukes using?
Discord.
I haven't even heard of Discord. But if it's anything like ICQ vs. MSN Messenger vs. Yahoo Messenger vs. Skype etc., I'm not sure if a different IM program would bring anything significantly new, or why the need to use a different one just because others are "for old people"..
I think there are too many chat clients out there now days. Everyone uses something different. Slack, Hipchat, Discord, Telegram, Jabber, WhatsApp, Mastodon, Matrix, Rocketchat, Hangouts, Skype, GroupMe or IRC. And those are just the ones off the top of my head that I've come across.
so what are the millenial pukes using?
Discord.
I haven't even heard of Discord. But if it's anything like ICQ vs. MSN Messenger vs. Yahoo Messenger vs. Skype etc., I'm not sure if a different IM program would bring anything significantly new, or why the need to use a different one just because others are "for old people"..
Discord has chat rooms as well as voice chat, and I think video - it's been a while since I've used it.
everthing in one place. Personally I like the ability to chose what "apps" I use. I don't like being restricted to one space on a vast internet. It reminds me of the AOL days of old.
The funny thing is that some of the main ones like AIM, Y!M, and MSN have gone defunct and there's still a plethora to select from.
so what are the millenial pukes using?
Discord.
i'm pretty sure it's snapchat and youtube.
I'm sure if there was a BBS app that could be installed easily more people using them. Err...Maybe??
If you want chat rooms, why not use IRC?
On 03-25-19 09:10, DaiTengu wrote to Jojo <=-
I think there are too many chat clients out there now days. Everyone
uses something different. Slack, Hipchat, Discord, Telegram, Jabber, WhatsApp, Mastodon, Matrix, Rocketchat, Hangouts, Skype, GroupMe or
IRC. And those are just the ones off the top of my head that I've
come across.
On 03-25-19 10:17, Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Discord.
I haven't even heard of Discord. But if it's anything like ICQ vs. MSN Messenger vs. Yahoo Messenger vs. Skype etc., I'm not sure if a
different IM program would bring anything significantly new, or why the need to use a different one just because others are "for old people"..
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Mar 25 2019 11:52 pm
so what are the millenial pukes using?
Discord.
i'm pretty sure it's snapchat and youtube.
Eh, YouTube isn't a messenger app..?
I think there are too many chat clients out there now days. Everyone
uses something different. Slack, Hipchat, Discord, Telegram, Jabber,
WhatsApp, Mastodon, Matrix, Rocketchat, Hangouts, Skype, GroupMe or
IRC. And those are just the ones off the top of my head that I've
come across.
I'm sure if there was a BBS app that could be installed easily more people using them. Err...Maybe??
On 03-26-19 09:15, Nightfox wrote to Derision <=-
I think MSN Messenger was retired in favor of Skype, since Microsoft bought Skype. But aside from perhaps Google Hangouts, I'm not sure what other alternatives there are.. And I'm not including cell phone messengers because I think comparing those to desktop IM software is comparing apples & oranges. I haven't seen many alternative instant messengers that are available for desktop PCs. Discord is one I've
heard about recently but I've never used it.
On 03-26-19 11:32, DaiTengu wrote to Hustler <=-
@VIA: VERT/ENSEMBLE
Re:
By: to on Tue Mar 26 2019 09:13 am
I'm sure if there was a BBS app that could be installed easily more people using them. Err...Maybe??
Synchronet is pretty easy to install.
If you want chat rooms, why not use IRC?
You're not wrong, it's got to the point it's annoying.
On 03-26-19 11:32, DaiTengu wrote to Hustler <=-
Synchronet is pretty easy to install.
I'm sure if there was a BBS app that could be installed easily more
people using them. Err...Maybe??
Heliarc wrote to daitengu <=-
I'm sure if there was a BBS app that could be installed easily more
people using them. Err...Maybe??
I was refering to phone apps to connect to a BBS. Not BBS
software. Somethingg like Syncterm for android and Iphone. I
haven't see anything like that. Unless I missed it on google
play.
That's where Trillian came in handy - being able to roll several chat platforms into one client.
There are certainly "terminal" apps for phones that can connect to
a BBS. I have used 'Termius' and 'TinyTermLite' on my iPhone with reasonable success, although it's not perfect.
I was refering to phone apps to connect to a BBS. Not BBS software. Somethingg like Syncterm for android and Iphone. I haven't see anything like that. Unless I missed it on google play.
That's where Trillian came in handy - being able to roll several chat platforms into one client.
I think Pidgin did that too, didn't it? And from what I remember, Pidgin was free but Trillian cost money, I think?
I loved the Pidgin implementation on Mac, Adium... which I think it still being developed, despite most of the IM platforms it supported dying off. Still, it was never quite perfect... i.e., file transfers on AIM or ICQ never quite worked right, no webcam support in Y!M, MSN, or Skype. It was a valiant effort, though.
That's where Trillian came in handy - being able to roll several chat
platforms into one client.
I think Pidgin did that too, didn't it? And from what I remember, Pidgin was free but Trillian cost money, I think?
I was refering to phone apps to connect to a BBS. Not BBS software.
Somethingg like Syncterm for android and Iphone. I haven't see
anything like that. Unless I missed it on google play.
a great wiki page on terminal software:
There appears to only be one useable/good one for Android currently - "ANSI Terminal". I haven't tried it yet. There are other terminal programs but I don't recall seeing one that was purpose built like this one.
I'd still ditch it for IRC just so as not to be at the mercy of a private company.
That's the thing I noticed about the all-in-one IM clients - They often seemed to have things that didn't quite work right, or features missing that the official messenger clients had.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Mar 27 2019 08:56 am
That's where Trillian came in handy - being able to roll several chat PF>> platforms into one client.
I think Pidgin did that too, didn't it? And from what I remember, Pidgin was free but Trillian cost money, I think?
There was a free version of Trillian first, then Pidgin came along. You are correct.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Mar 26 2019 09:06 am
If you want chat rooms, why not use IRC?
Discord is a lot like IRC (many-to-many chat) but supports image embedding b default.
Also people do not start "channels" on Discord - they create a Discord serve which may have multiple "channels" associated with it (considerably easier t do this than to run a secure IRC server). It also supports voice chat and avatars. The client is turnkey.
I've warmed up to Discord but the primary problem with it is, I'm not sure w happens if the company goes under (if that company goes under, it is going t take a whole lot of online communities with it.)
The client is not free (libre) software (Wikipedia calls it "proprietary freeware.") I wish the people I talked to on it would be more amenable to I but Discord, for what it is, is pretty well implemented.
It seems quicker to get up-and-running on Discord, but another issue is all the software (bots, etc.) for IRC aren't usable on Discord.
I understand this was initially used a lot by gamers but there are a whole l of other communities on it. Also I've never tried to IRC from a mobile devi I don't know whether IRC works well at all that way (honestly haven't tried) but Discord was written to work well with less-than-constant connecxtions.
I think it's pretty well-done as a piece of software, its limitations notwithstanding. I sort of scowled at it at first ("USE IRC, YOU MAGGOTS!") but have grown used to it.
I'd still ditch it for IRC just so as not to be at the mercy of a private company.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: Vk3jed to DaiTengu on Tue Mar 26 2019 09:04 pm
You're not wrong, it's got to the point it's annoying.
That's where Trillian came in handy - being able to roll several chat platfo into one client.
Can we all just go back to IRC?
... Am I any closer to finding what I'm looking for?
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Thanks I'll check it out. I'm not a programer but you would think someome would have up with an easy BBS caller that could be installed on google play.
yeah but can you check the WEATHER on discord!
trillian was crippleware, pidgin was first gaim.
i can not find any of this on the wikipedia page or with a short search ,
Nightfox wrote to Derision <=-
That's the thing I noticed about the all-in-one IM clients - They often seemed to have things that didn't quite work right, or features missing that the official messenger clients had.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: Hustler to Va7aqd on Wed Mar 27 2019 10:52 pm
Thanks I'll check it out. I'm not a programer but you would think someome would have up with an easy BBS caller that could be installed on google play.
There's probably not a whole lot of demand for that, which is probably the reason you don't see them on Google Play. There are a lot of peple using mobile devices these days who probably never even used a BBS back in the day. So, many people using mobile devices probably don't know what a BBS is.
Nightfox
Thanks I'll check it out. I'm not a programer but you would think
someome would have up with an easy BBS caller that could be
installed on google play.
There's probably not a whole lot of demand for that, which is probably
the reason you don't see them on Google Play. There are a lot of
I'm sure there isn't a demand for it. I don't think anyone can predict what the "demand" is going to be for any service. Facebook started as a messaging platform for a college. It worked because it was easy to use. How do you get "New" users to login to your BBS? Do you tell them to just telnet to port 23 and give them the address to your board?
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: Hustler to Va7aqd on Wed Mar 27 2019 10:52 pm
Thanks I'll check it out. I'm not a programer but you would think someome would have up with an easy BBS caller that could be installed on google play.
There's probably not a whole lot of demand for that, which is probably the reason you don't see them on Google Play. There are a lot of peple using mobile devices these days who probably never even used a BBS back in the day. So, many people using mobile devices probably don't know what a BBS is.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: MRO to The Dust Council on Wed Mar 27 2019 10:52 pm
yeah but can you check the WEATHER on discord!
So when you have nothing else to talk about, you can talk about the weather.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Mar 27 2019 11:14 pm
trillian was crippleware, pidgin was first gaim.
i can not find any of this on the wikipedia page or with a short search ,
Recently you were talking about how it's easy to post inaccurate articles on Wikipedia, and now you're searching Wikipedia for this?
Nightfox wrote to Derision <=-
That's the thing I noticed about the all-in-one IM clients - They often seemed to have things that didn't quite work right, or features missing that the official messenger clients had.
Third-party support was never something the providers wanted to
support, since most of them sold ads on their apps.
I'm sure there isn't a demand for it. I don't think anyone can predict what the "demand" is going to be for any service. Facebook started as a messaging platform for a college. It worked because it was easy to use. How do you get "New" users to login to your BBS? Do you tell them to just telnet
I'm sure there isn't a demand for it. I don't think anyone can predict what the "demand" is going to be for any service. Facebook started as a messaging platform for a college. It worked because it was easy to use. How do you get "New" users to login to your BBS? Do you tell them to just telnet to port 23 and give them the address to your board?
yeah but can you check the WEATHER on discord!
So when you have nothing else to talk about, you can talk about the weather.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Mar 28 2019 09:40 am
yeah but can you check the WEATHER on discord!
So when you have nothing else to talk about, you can talk about the weather.
I think he's talking about the weatherbot on the Synchronet IRC network.
i'm old now. most of my conversations pertain to how my body hurts and the weather.
Yes, pretty much. My BBS is advertised on a few BBS lists online. If people are looking for BBSes to log into, I think they generally know they'd need to telnet to the BBS. Some BBS lists also have a telnet:// link to the BBS.
On 03-28-19 03:05, Jojo wrote to The Dust Council <=-
you liking irc but still using discord reminded me of something you
might like or at the very least find interesting that i saw in a
server.
i was exploring on IRC one night and joined a discord server they had
an invite to in their chat, i showed up and one of their bots was set
up so that it'd mirror anything said in the IRC chat to discord and anything said in discord to their IRC chat.
i havent seen that done in any other discord server and thought that
was pretty cool.
i was exploring on IRC one night and joined a discord server they had an invite to in their chat, i showed up and one of their bots was set up so that it'd mirror anything said in the IRC chat to discord and anything said in discord to their IRC chat.
i havent seen that done in any other discord server and thought that was pretty cool.
Yes, pretty much. My BBS is advertised on a few BBS lists online. If
people are looking for BBSes to log into, I think they generally
know they'd need to telnet to the BBS. Some BBS lists also have a
telnet:// link to the BBS.
So you think the BBS is limited to desktop PC's? I wonder how people even by PC's. The only people I know are the gamers. I don't think they would be intersted in the BBS.
I had a bot set up doing that for #synchronet, but for some reason they kicked it out... :(
It would help to quote the part of the message you're replying to. Without the quote, it's hard to know what the "that" is that you're talking about.
i was exploring on IRC one night and joined a discord server they had an invite to in their chat, i showed up and one of their bots was set up so that it'd mirror anything said in the IRC chat to discord and anything said in discord to their IRC chat.
There are certainly "terminal" apps for phones that can connect to
a BBS. I have used 'Termius' and 'TinyTermLite' on my iPhone with reasonable success, although it's not perfect.
I used to have an iPod Touch, and about 10 years ago I saw an iOS app called iSSH that had telnet support and also had fairly good ANSI BBS support.
I've heard that iSSH has since been pulled from the Apple app store. So I
I think one of the problems is that a small device like a smartphone typically doesn't have a physical keyboard, and there isn't much room on the screen for both an 80x24 telnet window and a full keyboard that you typically need for BBSing. It can work, but it makes for a cumbersome
the bbsnexus app was nice but only worked with the list. i dont know if it even works now
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Mar 28 2019 05:16 pm
i'm old now. most of my conversations pertain to how my body hurts and the weather.
Getting older sucks.
So you think the BBS is limited to desktop PC's? I wonder how people even by PC's. The only people I know are the gamers. I don't think they would be
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: Vk3jed to Jojo on Fri Mar 29 2019 09:11:00
I had a bot set up doing that for #synchronet, but for some reason they kicked it out... :(
Marisa
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: Marisag to Vk3jed on Fri Mar 29 2019 07:06 am
I had a bot set up doing that for #synchronet, but for some reason they kicked it out... :(
It would help to quote the part of the message you're replying to. Without the quote, it's hard to know what the "that" is that you're talking about.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Mar 28 2019 05:15 pm
the bbsnexus app was nice but only worked with the list. i dont know if it even works now
It was fine on a tablet, but the screen was too small on a phone.
Getting older sucks.
well i am drug free and only drink on occasion so my health is great. i've aged pretty well in comparison to the people i've grown up with.
There are certainly "terminal" apps for phones that can connect to
a BBS. I have used 'Termius' and 'TinyTermLite' on my iPhone with
reasonable success, although it's not perfect.
For Android you can get a DOSBox app (like MagicDOSBox) and then use any old DOS terminal program. Qmodem Pro is a good option.
Hustler wrote to Nightfox <=-
So you think the BBS is limited to desktop PC's? I wonder how people even by PC's.
The only people I know are the gamers. I don't think they
would be intersted in the BBS.
There's a guy on SDF that opened a
course for his school that teaches the students OLD technolgies. Apparently there's an interest in this. SDF started out as BBS in 86 I believe. I guess BBSing is a History lesson now. ;-)
MRO wrote to Marisag <=-
I had a bot set up doing that for #synchronet, but for some reason they kicked it out... :(
Marisa
because relay bots are fucking annoying and if you want to run a
bot on an irc server you should get permission from the operator
On 03-28-19 15:19, Nightfox wrote to Heliarc <=-
I think one of the problems is that a small device like a smartphone typically doesn't have a physical keyboard, and there isn't much room
on the screen for both an 80x24 telnet window and a full keyboard that
you typically need for BBSing. It can work, but it makes for a
cumbersome interface. I still often prefer a laptop or desktop PC with
a regular keyboard with physical keys, particularly for BBSing.
On 03-28-19 17:16, MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-
i'm old now. most of my conversations pertain to how my body hurts and
the weather.
On 03-28-19 20:20, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
i'm old now. most of my conversations pertain to how my body hurts and the weather.
Getting older sucks.
On 03-28-19 23:08, Hustler wrote to Nightfox <=-
So you think the BBS is limited to desktop PC's? I wonder how people even by PC's. The only people I know are the gamers. I don't think they would be intersted in the BBS. There's a guy on SDF that opened a
course for his school that teaches the students OLD technolgies. Apparently there's an interest in this. SDF started out as BBS in 86 I believe. I guess BBSing is a History lesson now. ;-)
On 03-29-19 07:06, Marisag wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I had a bot set up doing that for #synchronet, but for some reason they kicked it out... :(
On 03-30-19 11:33, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
Me too, I don't do drugs and rarely drink.
There was a discussion somewhere a while back about making BBSs more touch screen friendly. That probably would take a bit of work. But for the mobile user, it would be cool to be able to select menu items by tapping on them in a terminal session, and for messaging, edit the message in a native editor on the phone, then upload the text to the BBS when you
On 03-28-19 17:16, MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-
i'm old now. most of my conversations pertain to how my body hurts and the weather.
Hmm, sounds like the "ailment nets" you hear on ham radio, where all the oldies talk about their various ailments. :)
Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-
Getting older sucks.
It's not too bad, if you look after yourself. :)
I think one of the problems is that a small device like a smartphone
typically doesn't have a physical keyboard, and there isn't much
room on the screen for both an 80x24 telnet window and a full
keyboard that you typically need for BBSing. It can work, but it
makes for a cumbersome interface. I still often prefer a laptop or
desktop PC with a regular keyboard with physical keys, particularly
for BBSing.
You could always try a Bluetooth keyboard. Might be the easiest way around that issue. I had the same problem with my phone - getting both keyboard and terminal window on the screen meant a lot of squinting with glasses on! :D
Me too, I don't do drugs and rarely drink.
You sound like me in that regard, though I suspect when it comes to exercise there's a bigger difference between us. :)
So you think the BBS is limited to desktop PC's? I wonder how people
even by PC's.
Most don't - the shift in ecommerce from desktop to mobile has become
a landslide. In 2012, mobile was an afterthought. Now, it's mobile
first in a lot of sectors.
I run a Wordpress site, and there are mobile-friendly templates that, based on your browser's user-agent response, serves up a full template
or a mobile-friendly template. Maybe ecweb could be made to do
something like that?
My son is a gamer, and he was impressed by ANSIs when I showed him my
BBS and others. Don't know if he's ready for long-form social
networking, which is what I thought BBSes (and later LiveJournal) to
be. There's too many venues where 140 characters is just about right.
It kind of rocks when you see people make mistakes that you now know better than to make yourself. Live vicariously through other people's mis-steps, I always say. :)
For Android you can get a DOSBox app (like MagicDOSBox) and then use any old DOS terminal program. Qmodem Pro is a good option.
To get more BBS usership, it would be good if there was a mobile app that's easier to set up and use than that. I don't imagine many people would want to install a DOS box app to use a BBS terminal app.
If it were the 90's I'll be developers would be competing to come up with a smart phone BBS app.;-0
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Sun Mar 31 2019 09:00 pm
Me too, I don't do drugs and rarely drink.
You sound like me in that regard, though I suspect when it comes to exercise there's a bigger difference between us. :)
You may be right. I've never really been one to exercise much. I may need to start doing that pretty soon here though, because my A1C level was fairly high last time I had it checked, so I'm close to being diabetic. I know one thing that would help would be to lose some weight.
Nightfox
If it were the 90's I'll be developers would be competing to come up
with a smart phone BBS app.;-0
A few people have started working on them, but they always seem to abandon the work before it is complete.
To get more BBS usership, it would be good if there was a mobile app
that's easier to set up and use than that. I don't imagine many
people would want to install a DOS box app to use a BBS terminal app.
It never bothered me, but I guess you always had to be a little geeky to get on BBSes. There was never a super user-friendly way of doing it. As
Porting SyncTERM to Android could also be an option I suppose, although I think I know deuce's thoughts on Android. The biggest issue seems to be the keyboard, since the normal phone keyboards are usually missing the arrows, CTRL, ALT, ESC, and other useful keys. MagicDOSBox allows the use of your standard Android keyboard or their own built-in one that has all the keys of a normal PC keyboard.
i hear this a lot so: no, walking around all day at work doesnt count or give you exercise.
On 03-31-19 09:23, Hustler wrote to Vk3jed <=-
If it were the 90's I'll be developers would be competing to come up
with a smart phone BBS app.;-0
On 03-31-19 09:32, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
oh i'm friends with some of them on fb.
one was in a car accident where the car basically was annialated and he survived somehow.
https://i.imgur.com/U4hMl0H.jpg
On 03-31-19 07:32, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
It kind of rocks when you see people make mistakes that you now know better than to make yourself. Live vicariously through other people's mis-steps, I always say. :)
... Do you ever see inconsistencies in your world?
On 03-31-19 17:05, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yeah, I've used a bluetooth keyboard with a tablet before. But I'm not going to carry around a bluetooth keyboard for my phone. :)
On 03-31-19 17:12, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
You sound like me in that regard, though I suspect when it comes to exercise there's a bigger difference between us. :)
You may be right. I've never really been one to exercise much. I may need to start doing that pretty soon here though, because my A1C level
was fairly high last time I had it checked, so I'm close to being diabetic. I know one thing that would help would be to lose some
weight.
On 03-31-19 22:18, Nightfox wrote to BlaZ <=-
Back in the day, it was probably about as easy as it could be.. You
had to set up your modem with your PC, then set up your communications program, make sure it had a good modem init command (a bit geeky, I guess), and edit the phonebook in the communication program with the
BBSes you like to call, and remember your login credentials. But even with the multiple steps involved, I don't think it was rocket science. These days though, things like a small screen on a smartphone is a bit
of an annoyance.
Porting SyncTERM to Android could also be an option I suppose, although I think I know deuce's thoughts on Android. The biggest issue seems to be the keyboard, since the normal phone keyboards are usually missing the arrows, CTRL, ALT, ESC, and other useful keys. MagicDOSBox allows the use of your standard Android keyboard or their own built-in one that has all the keys of a normal PC keyboard.
I tried a beta of fTelnet for Android that I think had all the required keys, from what I remember.
On 03-31-19 22:19, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
@VIA: VERT/DIGDIST
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Mar 31 2019 09:39 pm
i hear this a lot so: no, walking around all day at work doesnt count or give you exercise.
My job doesn't even really require a lot of walking.
I have played around with ANSI Terminal Mobile app from the google play store and it's ok better then some other ones i have played with. Hopefully someday they will be able to find something more stable. it would be nice to be able to check email or local message remotelyThere are certainly "terminal" apps for phones that can connect to
a BBS. I have used 'Termius' and 'TinyTermLite' on my iPhone with
reasonable success, although it's not perfect.
There are certainly "terminal" apps for phones that can connect to
reasonable success, although it's not perfect.
Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-
On 03-31-19 22:18, Nightfox wrote to BlaZ <=-
Anything worth doing on a PC took a bit of knowledge back in the 90s. Today, the expectations are much higher, when it comes to user friendliness. Things need to be auto configuring as much as possible
and should "just work". For us geeky types, that does take the fun out
of it though. :)
If it were the 90's I'll be developers would be competing to come up
with a smart phone BBS app.;-0
A few people have started working on them, but they always seem to
abandon the work before it is complete.
Well I wish someone would write one. There's SO many useless Apps out
On 04-01-19 07:52, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I was a sysop with a high-speed modem, a serial mouse, and a serial
laser printer back then. Getting the IRQs right on 3 comm ports and
making sure I had the right serial port to support 14.4 kbps was hard. Once I got all of the IRQs figured out I had to write them on a
notepad and tape them to the inside of the case.
Then, I got a Lantastic ethernet kit and needed to make room for an ethernet card IRQ and port!
On 04-01-19 09:29, Nightfox wrote to Heliarc <=-
Do you have any ideas on what would make a good BBS app, beyond just a telnet app?
If it were the 90's I'll be developers would be competing to come up
with a smart phone BBS app.;-0
Well I wish someone would write one. There's SO many useless AppsDo you have any ideas on what would make a good BBS app, beyond just a telnet app?
out
Do you have any ideas on what would make a good BBS app, beyond
just a telnet app?
If I could program I wouldn't make a telnet app. It would need to a secure protocol. People make a fuss about security these days and I think telnet scares them off. Once they find out how insecure telnet is they head for the hills. The internet is filled with crazed hackers that use BBS's to suck your banking info, and your address so they can stalk you. Geez..Don't you watch TV? ;-)
Well I wish someone would write one. There's SO many useless Apps out there. And this idea that BBsing is Dead or Dying is a bunch of bull. Anyone see
the Movie Field of Dreams? The guy says "If you build it, they will come".
That's my 2 cents anywayz.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Mar 31 2019 09:39 pm
i hear this a lot so: no, walking around all day at work doesnt count or give you exercise.
My job doesn't even really require a lot of walking.
On 03-31-19 09:32, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
oh i'm friends with some of them on fb.
one was in a car accident where the car basically was annialated and he survived somehow.
That's understandable, but most are simply suffering from conditions brought about by years of inactivity. :)
https://i.imgur.com/U4hMl0H.jpg
Ouch! How did he get out of that?
My job doesn't even really require a lot of walking.
Mine does, along with manual work. :)
My job doesn't even really require a lot of walking.
just clench your ass together all day and you will have a bubble butt
Synchronet (and perhaps other BBS software) do support a more secure protocol, SSH. But even knowning the security benefits of SSH, it seems most BBS users still just use telnet (or RLogin). I'm not sure most people really care about the security of their BBS sessions.
Maybe I'm just weird, but I loathe any insecure protocol. Yes, we're still using technology from the 80s and early 90s, it doesn't mean we can't ensure the communication we make between source and target isn't secure. SSH, https, smtps, tls, etc., they are there for a reason.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Apr 01 2019 07:59 pm
My job doesn't even really require a lot of walking.
just clench your ass together all day and you will have a bubble butt
When I was in 5th grade, the teacher said one day that he saw a magazine ad or something a long time ago that said if you clench your hands together and press them together for some time, you could supposedly build strength that way.
Nightfox
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: Nightfox to Hustler on Mon Apr 01 2019 02:45 pm
Synchronet (and perhaps other BBS software) do support a more secure protocol, SSH. But even knowning the security benefits of SSH, it seems most BBS users still just use telnet (or RLogin). I'm not sure most people really care about the security of their BBS sessions.
Maybe I'm just weird, but I loathe any insecure protocol. Yes, we're still using technology from the 80s and early 90s, it doesn't mean we can't ensure the communication we make between source and target isn't secure. SSH, https, smtps, tls, etc., they are there for a reason.
On 04-01-19 20:00, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Ouch! How did he get out of that?
some act of god. that's sean dennis' car.
aka hausmaus of outpostbbs / micronet
On 04-01-19 20:01, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i walk a lot, lift 100lb boxes and objects, and just move around a lot
75% of the day. just makes me stronger, not less fat.
i walk a lot, lift 100lb boxes and objects, and just move around a lot 75% of the day. just makes me stronger, not less fat.
There's the other side of the equation - 80-90% of weight management is in what you eat (and how much). :)
There's the other side of the equation - 80-90% of weight management is in what you eat (and how much). :)
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: Vk3jed to MRO on Wed Apr 03 2019 01:53 pm
i walk a lot, lift 100lb boxes and objects, and just move around a lot 75% of the day. just makes me stronger, not less fat.
There's the other side of the equation - 80-90% of weight management is in what you eat (and how much). :)
This is definitely the truth. My weight fluctuates all over the place. Two months ago, I wanted to see what happens if I cut my portion size in half.
I kept my same workout regimen. In two months, I went from 192 lbs to 170 lbs. You can actually pinpoint the day that I decided to do this.
On 04-04-19 09:12, Minex wrote to Vk3jed <=-
This is definitely the truth. My weight fluctuates all over the place.
Two months ago, I wanted to see what happens if I cut my portion size
in half. I kept my same workout regimen. In two months, I went from
192 lbs to 170 lbs. You can actually pinpoint the day that I decided to
do this.
On 04-04-19 09:05, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yeah, there was a time when I was a bit depressed (or so I thought) and
I just didn't have a big appetite and wasn't eating as much. Over
several months, I dropped some weight just from eating less.
That just goes to prove the saying "You can't outrun your fork". :)
On 04-08-19 08:58, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
That just goes to prove the saying "You can't outrun your fork". :)
I haven't heard that one before. :)
Courtesy of Nerd Fitness, but it's very true. :) Simply means that what yu eat and drink are the biggest factors affecting your weight, far more so than exercise.
On 04-04-19 09:12, Minex wrote to Vk3jed <=-
This is definitely the truth. My weight fluctuates all over the place.
Two months ago, I wanted to see what happens if I cut my portion size in half. I kept my same workout regimen. In two months, I went from 192 lbs to 170 lbs. You can actually pinpoint the day that I decided to do this.
That just goes to prove the saying "You can't outrun your fork". :)
On 04-04-19 09:05, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yeah, there was a time when I was a bit depressed (or so I thought) and I just didn't have a big appetite and wasn't eating as much. Over several months, I dropped some weight just from eating less.
There are people who have lost a significant amount of weight by simply eating healthier and being careful about portion control. Yes, that does work. But exercise is still important for overall health.
We gave up soda (except maybe one a month with a cocktail) 2 months ago and we are already noticing the difference. We were drinking diet soda left and right - and it was doing all sorts of weird stuff to us.
Courtesy of Nerd Fitness, but it's very true. :) Simply means that what yu eat and drink are the biggest factors affecting your weight, far more so than exercise.
we are already noticing the difference. We were drinking diet soda left and right - and it was doing all sorts of weird stuff to us.
On 04-08-19 21:11, dmxrob wrote to Vk3jed <=-
We gave up soda (except maybe one a month with a cocktail) 2 months ago and we are already noticing the difference. We were drinking diet soda left and right - and it was doing all sorts of weird stuff to us.
On 04-08-19 23:19, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i loaded up runkeeper. apparently when i lost all my weight years ago
i walked close to 1000 miles in 3 months. no wonder my feet were like
On 04-08-19 23:21, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
drinking enough water and fasting and eating during important times of
the day play a large part.
i'm not so sure i'm sold on the eating healthy thing. if it keeps you alive and you're not malnurished, go for it.
On 04-08-19 23:29, Va7aqd wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I think it's BS. I just stuck my fork in the carpet, gave it a "3, 2,
1, Go!" and totally outran it. Didn't look like it even tried.
Well healthy eating is simple, if it looks like it come out of the ground, off a tree or from an animal, it's likely healthy. If it looks like it came from a factory or a laboratory, then be very wary.
the world would be in a state of starvation if we didnt each gmo foods. healthy eating is just hype. if it keeps you alive and it's not harming you, that's healthy.
healthy eating is just hype. if it keeps you alive and it's not harming you, that's healthy.
Re: Re: Inventor of the Inter
By: MRO to Vk3jed on Tue Apr 09 2019 09:02 pm
the world would be in a state of starvation if we didnt each gmo foods. healthy eating is just hype. if it keeps you alive and it's not harming you, that's healthy.
Let's keep eaching those GMO foods then. ;)
The "not harming you" is probably the key phrase. They say processed foods are generally not as good for you as whole/fresh foods. You could stay alive
for a while eating potato chips and peanut butter & jelly sandwiches and hot dogs, but foods like that aren't going to contribute to good health as much
well peanut butter and jelly has the fat you need and protein and sugar and carbs to keep you going.
i know some people who eat a bunch of fruit and think they're being healthy. that's just sugar.
i've been drinking pepsi max/ pepsi zero for years.I want to start drinking Stevia flavored soda.
when i touch stainless steel housings at work i leave fingerprints.... they dont wash off. it's like my sweat is acidic.
Diet soda is evil, along with artificial sweetners. I'm not sure how anyone deems it 'ok' toYea most of those low calorie flavored mix packets are flavored by
put aspartame in to their system. ugh.
On 04-10-19 19:39, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
I've heard there's a diffrence between natural sugar (in fruits, etc.)
and processed sugar (as in the bags of sugar you buy at the store).
I'm still a little unclear on what difference there is (if any)
though..
well peanut butter and jelly has the fat you need and protein and sugar and carbs to keep you going.
I heard one time that your body actually produces all the sugar it needs from carbs, so you actually don't really need to consume sugar.
I've heard there's a diffrence between natural sugar (in fruits, etc.) and processed sugar (as in the bags of sugar you buy at the store). I'm still a little unclear on what difference there is (if any) though..
i've been drinking pepsi max/ pepsi zero for years.I want to start drinking Stevia flavored soda.
when i touch stainless steel housings at work i leave fingerprints.... they dont wash off. it's like my sweat is acidic.
I want to start drinking Stevia flavored soda.
Not to mention it's expensive.
Not to mention it's expensive.
True that.
Switching from soda to tea and water not only has made me feel better, but also has cut down on "beverage expenses" quite a bit. I can make tea at home for less than 5-cents for an entire pitcher.
I go through at least a (10 cup) pot of coffee a day. sometimes more. I also drink a lot of water. When I get tired of plain water, I have a few bottles of "Mio" a flavoring for water, which I thoroughly enjoy. Especially the ones that contain caffeine :)
When we are in Mexico, limes are used extensively for a variety of purposes - including drinks. So we have started using limes in our tea, water, etc. I enjoy it!
On 04-13-19 10:36, dmxrob wrote to DaiTengu <=-
True that.
Switching from soda to tea and water not only has made me feel better,
but also has cut down on "beverage expenses" quite a bit. I can make
tea at home for less than 5-cents for an entire pitcher.
I go through at least a (10 cup) pot of coffee a day. sometimes more. I also drink a lot of water. When I get tired of plain water, I have a few bottles of "Mio" a flavoring for water, which I thoroughly enjoy. Especially the ones that contain caffeine :)
On 04-13-19 10:36, dmxrob wrote to DaiTengu <=-
True that.
Switching from soda to tea and water not only has made me feel better, but also has cut down on "beverage expenses" quite a bit. I can make tea at home for less than 5-cents for an entire pitcher.
I very rarely drink soda. Mostly water with some tea and coffee. :)
When we are in Mexico, limes are used extensively for a variety of purposes - including drinks. So we have started using limes in our tea, water, etc. I enjoy it!
yeah but can you check the WEATHER on discord!
i was exploring on IRC one night and joined a discord server they had an invite to in their chat, i showed up and one of their bots was set up so that it'd mirror anything said in the IRC chat to discord and anything said in discord to their IRC chat.
i havent seen that done in any other discord server and thought that was pretty cool.
oh i'm friends with some of them on fb.
one was in a car accident where the car basically was annialated and he survived somehow.
https://i.imgur.com/U4hMl0H.jpg
oh i'm friends with some of them on fb.
one was in a car accident where the car basically was annialated and he survived somehow.
https://i.imgur.com/U4hMl0H.jpg
that's sean dennis' vehicle... he's lucky to be alive... sad that they still haven't found the guy that hit him and the other vehicle... i think someone said something about the one that hit them may have been stolen...
Ooops, you're right. I was talking about the irc<->Discord gateway
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