• JPG/Video on bulletin boards..

    From paulie420@21:2/150 to All on Sat Jul 18 08:21:13 2020
    If you could display graphical files to users natively, would you want to?

    If you could display videos to user natively, would yo want to?

    Do you think these technologies could mix together, or would they clash-
    would it not be a BBS is it had newer tech built-in?



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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110.1 to paulie420 on Mon Jul 20 12:09:36 2020
    *** Quoting paulie420 from a message to All ***

    If you could display graphical files to users natively, would you
    want to?

    If you could display videos to user natively, would yo want to?

    Do you think these technologies could mix together, or would they
    clash- would it not be a BBS is it had newer tech built-in?



    pAULIE42o .........

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to paulie420 on Mon Jul 20 20:57:14 2020
    On 18 Jul 2020, paulie420 said the following...

    Hmm, my previous reply didn't seem to come through, let's try this again from Mystic...

    If you could display graphical files to users natively, would you want
    to?

    I think images could come in handy, the trouble would be how to distribute them. I think the BBS community could steal a page from Reddit's (pre redesign) book and use third party image hosts rather then attaching or embedding the image in the message:

    [Funny Image](https://i.imgur.com/lr8eTMh.jpeg)

    We could also use markdown to introduce some text formatting such as *italic* or **bold** text.

    This way messages are still legible on yesterday/today's BBSes while newer readers would be able to display images in line.

    If you could display videos to user natively, would yo want to?

    I personally wouldn't want videos here, though some may see the value in it.

    But for the love of everything holy & sacred they should never ever be auto-playing. Also if I ever started seeing pre-roll ads I'd probably flip my desk.

    Jay

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Warpslide on Mon Jul 20 22:14:02 2020
    On 20 Jul 2020, Warpslide said the following...

    On 18 Jul 2020, paulie420 said the following...

    Hmm, my previous reply didn't seem to come through, let's try this again from Mystic...

    If you could display graphical files to users natively, would you wan to?

    I think images could come in handy, the trouble would be how to
    distribute them. I think the BBS community could steal a page from Reddit's (pre redesign) book and use third party image hosts rather then attaching or embedding the image in the message:

    [Funny Image](https://i.imgur.com/lr8eTMh.jpeg)

    We could also use markdown to introduce some text formatting such as *italic* or **bold** text.

    This way messages are still legible on yesterday/today's BBSes while
    newer readers would be able to display images in line.

    If you could display videos to user natively, would yo want to?

    I personally wouldn't want videos here, though some may see the value in it.

    But for the love of everything holy & sacred they should never ever be auto-playing. Also if I ever started seeing pre-roll ads I'd probably flip my desk.

    Valid points you make; and I agree, if I saw auto playing videos I'd flip too...

    Now I KNOW that some folks will say its already like this, but I prefer like
    a hyperlink sort of... you see a link, click it, and a 3rd application shows the JPG or plays the video... and I know some will SAY that works today; but
    I use syncterm and arch linux, and I cant even COPY and paste a link most of the times... it just doesn't work WELL.

    I wish you could make one click; and a link would just open... furthermore, I wish it were one click and link was closed; I just think that we miss out on
    a lot for lack of MORE than simple text. Like a Raspberry Pi Project, or BBS howto... you almost NEED a picture or three, a video here and there... I wish it were implemented better... and easy; without breaking the simple BBSes
    that we already love.

    Nor changing them...



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to paulie420 on Tue Jul 21 23:30:00 2020
    paulie420 wrote to Warpslide <=-

    Now I KNOW that some folks will say its already like this, but I
    prefer like a hyperlink sort of... you see a link, click it, and
    a 3rd application shows the JPG or plays the video... and I know
    some will SAY that works today; but I use syncterm and arch
    linux, and I cant even COPY and paste a link most of the times...
    it just doesn't work WELL.

    I wish you could make one click; and a link would just open... furthermore, I wish it were one click and link was closed; I just
    think that we miss out on a lot for lack of MORE than simple
    text. Like a Raspberry Pi Project, or BBS howto... you almost
    NEED a picture or three, a video here and there... I wish it were implemented better... and easy; without breaking the simple BBSes
    that we already love.

    As I've already suggested to you, and you acknowledged, if you'd
    try an offline reader (like MultiMail), you can indeed click a
    link in a BBS message and have a browser open. <SHRUG>



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Gamgee on Thu Jul 23 01:35:00 2020
    On 07-21-20 19:30, Gamgee wrote to paulie420 <=-

    As I've already suggested to you, and you acknowledged, if you'd
    try an offline reader (like MultiMail), you can indeed click a
    link in a BBS message and have a browser open. <SHRUG>

    And I say it doesn't work! :/ Haqve to see if that's a version issue or something else.


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  • From apam@21:1/126 to Vk3jed on Thu Jul 23 02:56:14 2020
    On 07-21-20 19:30, Gamgee wrote to paulie420 <=-

    As I've already suggested to you, and you acknowledged, if
    you'd try an offline reader (like MultiMail), you can indeed
    click a link in a BBS message and have a browser open.
    <SHRUG>

    And I say it doesn't work! :/ Haqve to see if that's a version
    issue or something else.

    Could be the terminal multimail is running in scrapes urls.

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  • From Nazferiti@21:3/107 to paulie420 on Wed Jul 22 13:46:37 2020
    On 18 Jul 2020, paulie420 said the following...

    If you could display graphical files to users natively, would you want
    to?

    If you could display videos to user natively, would yo want to?

    Do you think these technologies could mix together, or would they clash- would it not be a BBS is it had newer tech built-in?



    pAULIE42o
    .........

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    * Origin: American Pi BBS (21:2/150)

    During the Mid-90's I ran a BBS called Excalibur that was more graphical than the more mainstream BBS packages. Unfortunately Excalibur was only 16-Bit rendering it pretty much useless today but at the time it was pretty cutting edge. Sysops could even privide direct internet access to their users with
    tye software. And the doors for the system were full VGA capabible.

    - Mike

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Vk3jed on Wed Jul 22 17:53:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Gamgee <=-

    As I've already suggested to you, and you acknowledged, if you'd
    try an offline reader (like MultiMail), you can indeed click a
    link in a BBS message and have a browser open. <SHRUG>

    And I say it doesn't work! :/ Haqve to see if that's a version
    issue or something else.

    It works for me with version 0.52 on Linux (middle-click). I use
    it pretty much every day this way...



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Nazferiti on Wed Jul 22 18:48:24 2020
    On 22 Jul 2020, Nazferiti said the following...
    During the Mid-90's I ran a BBS called Excalibur that was more graphical than the more mainstream BBS packages. Unfortunately Excalibur was only 16-Bit rendering it pretty much useless today but at the time it was pretty cutting edge. Sysops could even privide direct internet access
    to their users with tye software. And the doors for the system were
    full VGA capabible.

    - Mike

    Where was that located, and... I dunno I think I *might* remember it. But, I often have that happen when I'm wrong... being 40 and all. :/ Jeeez. I do remember using RipSCRIPT at the end, and *I* didn't love it because of the
    way it drew the graphics... like vector by vector; shape by shape...

    What software did you board use (Or implement to give graphics to the users) I'm not familiar with tye software..


    Sounds neat tho.. I do remember I got internet from a BBS back in the day, before I got a shell account from the University of Toledo (hacked, too... or more like SHARED. Lol.) and used... winsock32? Or tcp/ip to get graphics shortly thereafter.



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Gamgee on Wed Jul 22 18:49:18 2020
    It works for me with version 0.52 on Linux (middle-click). I use
    it pretty much every day this way...

    I just downloaded 0.52, and am gonna compile it here shortly. Then I have to figure out how to pull messages... I'm sure I could use MY BBS right? Just download from the QWK menu I believe...



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to paulie420 on Thu Jul 23 01:08:00 2020
    paulie420 wrote to Gamgee <=-

    It works for me with version 0.52 on Linux (middle-click). I use
    it pretty much every day this way...

    I just downloaded 0.52, and am gonna compile it here shortly.
    Then I have to figure out how to pull messages... I'm sure I
    could use MY BBS right? Just download from the QWK menu I
    believe...

    Yes, that's what I do. You'll probably want to configure things a
    little (from the QWK menu), such as selecting the message areas to
    scan.



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to apam on Fri Jul 24 23:37:00 2020
    On 07-22-20 22:56, apam wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Could be the terminal multimail is running in scrapes urls.

    Yeah I'm running on Windows, not getting any help there. :/


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Gamgee on Fri Jul 24 23:39:00 2020
    On 07-22-20 13:53, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    It works for me with version 0.52 on Linux (middle-click). I use
    it pretty much every day this way...

    Yeah, have to try and work out what's causing the difference, whether it's the OS/desktop, or the minor version change.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Nazferiti on Sat Jul 25 01:07:00 2020
    On 07-22-20 09:46, Nazferiti wrote to paulie420 <=-

    During the Mid-90's I ran a BBS called Excalibur that was more
    graphical than the more mainstream BBS packages. Unfortunately
    Excalibur was only 16-Bit rendering it pretty much useless today but at

    I'm assuming it's a Windows program. You could try running it under WineVDM, which runs 16 bit Windows programs quite well on a 64 bit OS.


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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Vk3jed on Fri Jul 24 12:23:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Gamgee <=-

    It works for me with version 0.52 on Linux (middle-click). I use
    it pretty much every day this way...

    Yeah, have to try and work out what's causing the difference,
    whether it's the OS/desktop, or the minor version change.

    My guess is that it's the OS/desktop/terminal. FWIW, I'm running
    Slackware 64-bit with XFCE desktop, and xfce4-terminal v0.6.3.



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  • From Tiny@21:1/130 to Gamgee on Sat Jul 25 13:17:38 2020
    Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    My guess is that it's the OS/desktop/terminal. FWIW, I'm running Slackware 64-bit with XFCE desktop, and xfce4-terminal v0.6.3.

    It's the windows console. One work around is the old click top left,
    mark / enter feature. That's how I get links into a browser. When I
    had the linux for windows crap working I just ran the linux version and
    that worked fine with a middle click.

    Shawn

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Gamgee on Sat Jul 25 22:24:00 2020
    On 07-24-20 08:23, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    My guess is that it's the OS/desktop/terminal. FWIW, I'm running Slackware 64-bit with XFCE desktop, and xfce4-terminal v0.6.3.

    Which won't help me. :/


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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Vk3jed on Sat Jul 25 12:00:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Gamgee <=-

    My guess is that it's the OS/desktop/terminal. FWIW, I'm running Slackware 64-bit with XFCE desktop, and xfce4-terminal v0.6.3.

    Which won't help me. :/

    Maybe it's time to make the jump to Linux... ;-)

    Hopefully you saw the other post from Tiny confirming that the
    issue is Windows related.



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Tiny on Sat Jul 25 12:02:00 2020
    Tiny wrote to Gamgee <=-

    My guess is that it's the OS/desktop/terminal. FWIW, I'm running Slackware 64-bit with XFCE desktop, and xfce4-terminal v0.6.3.

    It's the windows console. One work around is the old click top
    left, mark / enter feature. That's how I get links into a browser.
    When I had the linux for windows crap working I just ran the linux
    version and that worked fine with a middle click.

    Cool, thanks for confirming the cause of the problem.

    Reason # 1,368,440 to avoid Windows... ;-)



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Gamgee on Sun Jul 26 22:58:00 2020
    On 07-25-20 08:00, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Maybe it's time to make the jump to Linux... ;-)

    I do for a lot of things, though for offline reading, that's not really convenient ATM. :/

    Hopefully you saw the other post from Tiny confirming that the
    issue is Windows related.

    Not yet, but at least we know where the issue is.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Tiny on Mon Jul 27 00:11:00 2020
    On 07-25-20 09:17, Tiny wrote to Gamgee <=-

    It's the windows console. One work around is the old click top left,
    mark / enter feature. That's how I get links into a browser. When I

    Almost, pressing enter doesn't work on MM, you have to use the mouse, but Windows copy/paste works. It's just so damn fiddly, and if the URL is wrapped, it gets pasted with spaces in it. :/

    had the linux for windows crap working I just ran the linux version
    and
    that worked fine with a middle click.

    That might be an option too. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Gamgee on Mon Jul 27 00:11:00 2020
    On 07-25-20 08:02, Gamgee wrote to Tiny <=-

    Cool, thanks for confirming the cause of the problem.

    Reason # 1,368,440 to avoid Windows... ;-)

    Hahahahaha. :)


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