If you are waiting on me or would like for me to add you tothe For Honour, Galactic Dynasty or BRE inter-bbs games in fsxNet can you
please reply to this post with your wish list.
If you are waiting on me or would like for me to add you tothe For Honour, Galactic Dynasty or BRE inter-bbs games in fsxNet can you please reply to this post with your wish list.
I have lost count of whom I still need to set up for what so just posting this call out here and will endeavor to work on things tomorrow night after work.
Best, Paul
I have lost count of whom I still need to set up for what so just posting this call out here and will endeavor to work on things tomorrow night after work.
Hey Paul! Could you put me down for an order of some time for yourself? You work too hard on this hobby. LOL.
I would hate to see you get yourself burnt out, you're a much needed fixture in BBS life. Thank you for all the work you do!
Sign me up for FH,GD and BRE please :)
Please add The Rusty MailBox to the GD game.. :)
Stuff that I am working on trying to setup / test in the NET 1 HUB comes at the expense of answering 5-6 emails asking for help or wanting to join fsxNet etc. and that can be a juggle.
Please add The Rusty MailBox to the GD game.. :)
Sign me up for FH,GD and BRE please :)
With all respect...
So over the year or so, I think Ive seen a couple of messages like this
- which I do not think is unusual, given that you have a real life
outside of BBSing, but it does make me wonder why you are a bottleneck. IMHO, no single person should be a bottleneck in anything and it cannot end well in the long term.
While I believe FSX is your baby, sometimes its great to see your baby grow on their own, just like the joy you see when they start to walk,
Like all hobbies, its fun to do, but that fun is only fun, when its not a chore. Workload stacking up will in time present itself as a chore.
So, I'd like to see this network scale itself to out do FN (that might
be my disapointment of what I've seen FN turn into talking here as I rejoin years later after my nieve youthful days). For it to do that, I
rejoin years later after my nieve youthful days). For it to do that, I think you need to delegate, offload, give up (pick the right term?) some administrative functions - I'm sure there are many here willing to help, myself included as I've offered in the past.
Please add The Rusty MailBox to the GD game.. :)
Done, you're node 26 in this inter-bbs game. I will send out updated
files to all nodes in due course.
Not sure I'd use the term bottleneck as it implies restriction, unless that's what you're meaning? But what I think you are saying is watch out for single point dependency - am I right? Just checking so I clarify my understanding of your thoughts.
Not sure I'd use the term bottleneck as it implies restriction, unles that's what you're meaning? But what I think you are saying is watch for single point dependency - am I right? Just checking so I clarify understanding of your thoughts.
So I was coming from the angle after I read your message that said "I havent done this, because I'm doing that". You've said that a couple of times now.
Doing "this" could be something fun that you want to do, but you cant
get to it, because of all the "that" things that you need to do.
Running a network has a lot of "that" things, and in FSX they all dependon you.
Joining games, getting connected, debugging (the infrastructure)
problems, etc.
I know one of the "this" you wanted to do is build these servers you picked up a while ago - so I'm guessing that has been/was pre-empted by "that" things related to FSX and "that" things related to Avons personal life outside of BBSing.
Thus the downside is, folks are waiting on you, the chores build up and
it wears away at the fun.
So if there were 2 or 3 or 4 "Avons", then things might get done quicker (thus the end user experience benefits), and you get more time for
"this".
And when it gets to the size of FN (I always think big) - then you can look back and say - I started "this".
So if there were 2 or 3 or 4 "Avons", then things might get
done quicker (thus the end user experience benefits), and you
get more time for "this".
And when it gets to the size of FN (I always think big) - then
you can look back and say - I started "this".
At the heart of this discussion are a few things/points/questions you
are raising. Here's my take on what those are.
- what things are being done now that are (for want of a better term) network related admin that could be done not just by me but by
others?
- is this happening now in any shape/form?
- is this seen as desirable / necessary, by whom, and why
- what does an acceptable level of service look like for all this
stuff?
- are we trying to fix something that is viewed as not broken, or is
it broken? (I may be a bit harsh in my terminology using broken but
you get the idea)
At the heart of this discussion are a few things/points/questions you are raising. Here's my take on what those are.
- what things are being done now that are (for want of a better term) network related admin that could be done not just by me but by
others?
Is there anything that can't be done by others?
Then you are the first contact for new nodes. It seems that you are spending quite some time in helping people to setup their BBS / FTN connectivity.
- is this happening now in any shape/form?
I don't believe so, but I'm not sure.
The most important task is updating and distributing the nodelist.
I don't see any reason why the nodelist cannot be updated
collaboratively. E.g. use a private SVN / Git / Mercurial / Fossil repository and give every network write access.
- what does an acceptable level of service look like for all this stuff?
Level 8 would be nice ;)
- are we trying to fix something that is viewed as not broken, or is it broken? (I may be a bit harsh in my terminology using broken but you get the idea)
At the moment it is bus factor 1-ish, but as long as Avon is not broken and keeps updating the nodelist, I wouldn't call it broken. It depends
on the criteria you have. If the criteria were scalability and fault-tolerance, you could call the current process broken. On the other hand, even if Avon would shutdown all his nodes without any warning, the network would not cease to exist.
@Alterego: I'm not sure if fsxnet should be seen as the successor to Fidonet. Maybe it would also make sense to start a new Fidonet in a
truly decentralized and collaborative fashion?
I'm more than happy for fsxNet to take the lead in experimenting with approaches to decentralization and collaboration. It's really an area
of interest to me and others. I also am keen on how we can better
implement encrypted mesh networking ideas into this discussion. But
to do so we need agreement on what that means by all involved. I
think I may have already said that :)
Could we create a dedicated echomail area for this (and all the things that were mentioned in the thread)? FSX_NETWORK, FSX_OPS, FSX_META or FSX_FTN, ...?
I find it hard to follow the discussions in FSX_GEN and I really would prefer a low-traffic area. It also would work much better as an archive.
On 02 Dec 2019 at 11:24a, Oli pondered and said...
Could we create a dedicated echomail area for this (and all the thing that were mentioned in the thread)? FSX_NETWORK, FSX_OPS, FSX_META or FSX_FTN, ...?
I find it hard to follow the discussions in FSX_GEN and I really woul prefer a low-traffic area. It also would work much better as an archi
More than happy to do this, and good idea. I'll work on something over
the next 24 hours. Once set up I'll forward the older messages from this thread into the new echo. Hopefully that will set us up nicely to
discuss, plan and expand on the topics being mooted.
Remember you want to be polling 21:1/10 HUB on agency.bbs.nz:24557 for sending / receiving the game packets.
On 03 Dec 2019 at 12:15p, Avon pondered and said...
On 02 Dec 2019 at 11:24a, Oli pondered and said...g
Could we create a dedicated echomail area for this (and all the thin
rthat were mentioned in the thread)? FSX_NETWORK, FSX_OPS, FSX_META o
lFSX_FTN, ...?
I find it hard to follow the discussions in FSX_GEN and I really wou
iprefer a low-traffic area. It also would work much better as an arch
More than happy to do this, and good idea. I'll work on something over
the next 24 hours. Once set up I'll forward the older messages from this
thread into the new echo. Hopefully that will set us up nicely to
discuss, plan and expand on the topics being mooted.
Hi guys
From HISTORY.TXT
[snip]
2019-12-03
Created FSX_NET - fsxNet is now just over 4 years old. This echoarea
has been
created as a space for discussions about the
network, its
current operations, plans for the future and how
best to
implement them. Suggested topics include decentralization,
collaboration, promotion, membership, encrypted connectivity
mesh networking, new protocol development + implementation
etc.
[snip]
This echoarea has just been created and should have auto created at
the other
HUBs. If not, sing out and let me know so I can chase things up.
The infopack etc. will be updated and changes reflected in the coming
days
when it is next hatched.
If you want this echo you will need to link to it.
Best, Paul
Created FSX_NET - fsxNet is now just over 4 years old. This echoarea has
Howdy, I'm currently overseas in India, and cannot VPN into home, so
cant check to see if this was created on Hub 3.
More than happy to do this, and good idea. I'll work on something over
the next 24 hours. Once set up I'll forward the older messages from
this thread into the new echo. Hopefully that will set us up nicely to discuss, plan and expand on the topics being mooted.
I've added the area here although I haven't seen anything. I suspect the area was created at 4/100 but I may not be connected and can't contact Areafix to check.
I would like this echo but honestly I have no idea where to send netmail to turn it on. :)
I'm VERY out of the loop at the moment. Sorry all.
Howdy, I'm currently overseas in India, and cannot VPN into home, so
cant check to see if this was created on Hub 3.
I'm back Friday, so I can check then.
I've added the area here although I haven't seen anything. I suspect the area was created at 4/100 but I may not be connected and can't contact Areafix to check.
It was created, and I've manually added your node. I hope to be able
to figure out this netmail thing soon...
Is it all netmail that does that or just areafix and/or filefix?
I'd have to call that a critical issue that I hope can be solved.
Hi Paul!
I've been patience and waiting for the config files for IBBS but without luck, not sure if the problem is on my side or not.
Also, polling 21:1/10 (agency.bbs.nz:24557) gives me "Authorization failed".
Also, polling 21:1/10 (agency.bbs.nz:24557) gives me "Authorization failed".
On 03 Dec 2019 at 10:25a, Joacim Melin pondered and said...
I would like this echo but honestly I have no idea where to send netmail
to turn it on. :)
I'm VERY out of the loop at the moment. Sorry all.
You would send a netmail to Areafix at 21:2/100 with your password in
the
subject and in the bodycopy state +FSX_NET
That *should* do the trick. Or I can just add you manually if you like
:)
Please add me. :)
Thanks!
CRAM-MD5 │ Yes
Do you have your CRAM-MD5 set to Yes?
If not change that switch to Yes and try another poll.
Can you let me know how you get on please. If this does not fix it I
have a plan B
Hello again Paul!
My CRAM-MD5 setting was set to NO, changed it to YES and polled again. Recived 1223 files including the CFG files, looks like it's working as expected now, thank you for the help!
On 12-04-19 21:18, Avon wrote to Joacim Melin <=-
On 04 Dec 2019 at 09:07a, Joacim Melin pondered and said...
Please add me. :)
Thanks!
Done, you should be linked in now.
Howdy, I'm currently overseas in India, and cannot VPN into home, so cant check to see if this was created on Hub 3.
I'm back Friday, so I can check then.
You would send a netmail to Areafix at 21:2/100 with your password in the
subject and in the bodycopy state +FSX_NET
I can't find my areafix password. Can you either (or both): send me
my password, and auto-add me to any areas I'm not already connected
to?
Paul,
I can't find my areafix password. Can you either (or both): send me my password, and auto-add me to any areas I'm not already connected to?
Thanks!
Ian
I can't find my areafix password. Can you either (or both): send me my password, and auto-add me to any areas I'm not already connected to?
done, have linked you to that and the other echos you were not connected to, feel free to adjust to taste.
just letting you now I and going on holiday (nelson) tomorrow till progably sunday. I would like to say all my bbs will stay online well Ihope they do so if not you maydo what you think best to do put it on
hold or stop my feed
On 31 Jan 2020 at 10:36p, Sneaky pondered and said...
just letting you now I and going on holiday (nelson) tomorrow till progably sunday. I would like to say all my bbs will stay online well Ihope they do so if not you maydo what you think best to do put it on
hold or stop my feed
Have a nice trip Ian... I'll just leave things as they are and all
should be fine :)
Calling all cars, anyone receiving? Over.
If you see this perhaps answer in Gen. I'm seeing nothing in this echo
Spec
--- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
* Origin: (21:3/101)
Calling all cars, anyone receiving? Over.
If you see this perhaps answer in Gen. I'm seeing nothing in this echo
If you see this perhaps answer in Gen. I'm seeing nothingin this echo
Got it here, and replying there! :)
*** Answering a msg posted in area FSX_NET (fsxNet Network
Ops/Planning).
I see your message and a few others. The FSX_NET area is fairly busy
with talk of upgrades and such to do with TLS support.
Calling all cars, anyone receiving? Over.
If you see this perhaps answer in Gen. I'm seeing nothing in this echo
Will be kicking this over to Gen in a few.
Danke Schon.. all replies located.
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