• Missing Messages?

    From Spectre@21:3/101 to Alterego on Thu Jan 16 14:49:00 2020
    I have the feeling I'm not seeing the full picture here. I'm seeing replies ìto
    messages I've not seen before. Most noticably because of the dodgy msg ìquality millionaire's stick in mind... I'm not seeing his, wherever they come ìfrom, but do see those replies.

    Spec


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Spectre on Fri Jan 17 00:57:16 2020
    On 16 Jan 2020 at 09:49a, Spectre pondered and said...

    I have the feeling I'm not seeing the full picture here. I'm seeing replies to messages I've not seen before. Most noticably because of the dodgy msg quality millionaire's stick in mind... I'm not seeing his, wherever they come from, but do see those replies.

    Spec

    Can you quote a message you did see that you think you did not see the original. I can try to track where it went.

    Thanks :)

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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Spectre on Thu Jan 16 13:51:03 2020
    16 Jan 20 09:49, you wrote to Alterego:

    I have the feeling I'm not seeing the full picture here.
    I'm seeing replies to messages I've not seen before.
    Most noticably because of the dodgy msg quality
    millionaire's stick in mind... I'm not seeing his,
    wherever they come from, but do see those replies.

    I had this problem before with the 3/100 feed. I thought it had been fixed by Alterego and/or Avon (but I didn't understand what the problem was). At the moment I receive my echomail from 1/100, so I cannot provide any recent data.


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  • From Alterego@21:2/116 to Spectre on Fri Jan 17 04:50:05 2020
    Re: Missing Messages?
    By: Spectre to Alterego on Thu Jan 16 2020 09:49 am

    I have the feeling I'm not seeing the full picture here. I'm seeing

    Can you quote post some details of a message you see a reply, but not the post.
    (Date, From/To, Subject) - and I'll do a compare on my system with the hub... ...deon


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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Spectre on Thu Jan 16 11:39:29 2020
    I have the feeling I'm not seeing the full picture here. I'm seeing replies to messages I've not seen before. Most noticably because of the dodgy msg quality millionaire's stick in mind... I'm not seeing his, wherever they come from, but do see those replies.

    It's possible someone may have twitlisted messages coming from him and
    perhaps that's upstream of you?

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  • From Captain Obvious@21:1/157 to Spectre on Fri Jan 17 00:47:02 2020
    On 16 Jan 2020, Spectre said the following...

    I have the feeling I'm not seeing the full picture here. I'm seeing replies to messages I've not seen before. Most noticably because of the dodgy msg quality millionaire's stick in mind... I'm not seeing his, wherever they come from, but do see those replies.

    Maybe you added him to your twit filter?

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    -=>Captain Obvious<=-
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  • From Alterego@21:2/116 to ryan on Fri Jan 17 16:04:19 2020
    Re: Re: Missing Messages?
    By: ryan to Spectre on Thu Jan 16 2020 06:39 am

    It's possible someone may have twitlisted messages coming from him and perhaps that's upstream of you?

    That would imply that a hub is filtering messages - and I believe that to be not true.

    We'll get to the answer though...
    ...deon


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Alterego on Fri Jan 17 16:05:00 2020
    Can you quote post some details of a message you see a reply, but not the post. (Date, From/To, Subject) - and I'll do a compare on my system
    with the hub... ...deon

    This pair were handy....

    From : Joacim Melin Posted : 15 Jan 20 10:19 To : The Millionaire
    Subject: Re: Best VPN for Mystic BBS and/or IPad
    MSGID: 21:2/130.0@FSXNet 5e1f3bee
    REPLY: 63882.fsx_gen@21:1/183 2284c04b
    CHRS: LATIN-1 2
    PID: NiKom v2.5.0


    From : Phoobar Posted : 15 Jan 20 04:47 To : The Millionaire
    Subject: Re: Best VPN for Mystic BBS and/or IPad
    TID: Mystic BBS 1.12 A43
    MSGID: 21:2/147 c82cc806
    REPLY: 63882.fsx_gen@21:1/183 2284c04b
    TZUTC: -0800

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Alterego on Fri Jan 17 17:45:00 2020

    Here's another one, no sign of the message from ryan

    From : Alterego Posted : 17 Jan 20 11:04 To : ryan
    Subject: Re: Missing Messages? ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── TZUTC: 1100
    MSGID: 28328.fsx_gen@21:2/116 22869eab
    REPLY: 21:1/168 a19f5a07
    PID: Synchronet 3.17c-Linux Dec 12 2019 GCC
    TID: SBBSecho 3.10-Linux r3.148 Dec 12 2019 GCC 6.3.0
    CHRS: ASCII 1
    NOTE: SlyEdit 1.70 (2019-08-15) (ICE style)


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  • From Alterego@21:2/116 to Spectre on Fri Jan 17 20:53:13 2020
    Re: Missing Messages?
    By: Spectre to Alterego on Fri Jan 17 2020 11:05 am

    This pair were handy....

    OK, something very strange - which I'll need to go through the logs to see what
    has happened.

    I have both those messages on 3/100 - so not sure why they didnt export to you - in fact it looks like they did...

    From : Joacim Melin Posted : 15 Jan 20 MSGID: 21:2/130.0@FSXNet 5e1f3bee
    REPLY: 63882.fsx_gen@21:1/183 2284c04b

    Was received at 20:30 and sent packaged for you:
    2020-01-15 20:30:55 Importing C:\mailer\inbound\1edc2300.pkt (Type 2e, 1.1KB) from 21:4/100 to 21:3/100
    2020-01-15 20:30:55 Unpacking bundle: C:\mailer\inbound\1edc1601.we0 (0.9KB) 2020-01-15 20:30:55 Importing C:\mailer\inbound\1EDC1601.PKT (Type 2e, 1.3KB) from 21:1/100 to 21:3/100
    2020-01-15 20:30:55 FSX_GEN: Security violation - 21:1/100 not in Area File 2020-01-15 20:30:55 Bad packet detected: C:\mailer\inbound\1EDC1601.PKT 2020-01-15 20:30:55 Imported: 1 msgs fsx_gen <- FSX_GEN
    2020-01-15 20:30:55 Imported: 1 msgs total
    2020-01-15 20:30:55 Sending packet (C:\BBS\SBBS\temp\sbbsecho\5e1edbcf.pkt, 1.1KB) from 21:3/100 to 21:3/101
    2020-01-15 20:30:55 File (C:/mailer/outbound.015/0000FFFF.WE0, 0.8KB) for 21:3/101 added to BSO/FLO file: C:/mailer/outbound.015\00030065.dlo
    2020-01-15 20:30:55 SBBSecho (PID 4528) exiting with error level 0, Bundles(1 unpacked, 2 sent), Packets(1 imported, 2 sent), EchoMail(1 imported, 0 exported)

    The security violation came to my attention (for 1/100) - and looking at the areas.bbs file, I see 1/100 was droped from fsx_gen. I did however also receive
    it from 4/100 (expected, since the message left hub 2, and didnt have 3/100 in
    the seen by).

    Do you have logs to see that you got packet 5e1edbcf.pkt from 0000FFFF.WE0?

    My logs show I sent it to you at 22:00
    ^ 15-Jan-2020 22:00:10 Connect From 218.214.240.90 #60177
    15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 EMSI data receive
    = 15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 Station : The Lower Planes
    = 15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 Address : 21:3/101 618:510/11
    : 15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 SysOp : System Operator from Melbourne, Australia
    : 15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 Number : -Unpublished-
    : 15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 Flags : 38400,
    : 15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 Mailer : FrontDoor/2.26.SW/Unregistered
    : 15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 EMSI Addon : FDREV [2NwJN]
    : 15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 EMSI Addon : TZUTC [1100]
    : 15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 EMSI Addon : FDZRE []
    = 15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 Time : 15-Jan-2020 22:00:13
    15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 Password-protected session (auth=plain)
    15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 EMSI data sent
    15-Jan-2020 22:00:15 We have 0b of mail and 15,917b of files for them
    15-Jan-2020 22:00:16 Handshake time - 6 seconds
    15-Jan-2020 22:00:16 Establishing ZedZap (Zmodem/8K) transfer protocol
    15-Jan-2020 22:00:18 RECE: End of batch
    15-Jan-2020 22:00:19 Sending 'C:/mailer/outbound.015/0000FFFF.WE0' (15,917b)
    15-Jan-2020 22:00:21 Sent deleted '/mailer/outbound.015/0000FFFF.WE0'
    15-Jan-2020 22:00:21 SEND: End of batch
    * 15-Jan-2020 22:00:22 Session completed successfully
    15-Jan-2020 22:00:22 Session traf: in: 0 (0b) out: 1 (15,917b) [421b/17477b]
    15-Jan-2020 22:00:22 Session time: 00:00:12

    (I have the other message on hub 3 as well - but havent looked for detailed logs on it - I'm assuming it was sent to you as well...)
    ...deon


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  • From Alterego@21:2/116 to Spectre on Fri Jan 17 20:57:57 2020
    Re: Missing Messages?
    By: Alterego to Spectre on Fri Jan 17 2020 03:53 pm

    The security violation came to my attention (for 1/100) - and looking at the areas.bbs file, I see 1/100 was droped from fsx_gen. I did however

    Oh, forgot to add - because of this, I had a bunch of bad packets - which I've just reprocessed. Most of them were dupes, but some did get posted and packaged
    up for you (which would have been messages from Hub 1, where 3/100 would have been in the seen-by list, so no other hub would have sent them to).

    Now, I need to find out what modified my areas.bbs...
    ...deon


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Captain Obvious on Sat Jan 18 00:46:00 2020
    Maybe you added him to your twit filter?

    Don't even have the ability.

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Alterego on Sat Jan 18 01:10:00 2020
    I'm not sure I have the logging granularity as answer the questions, but I ìwill have a look. Those messages are all dated the 12th and 13th.. I'll email ìif I find anything interesting.

    The missing millions have turned up in the stuff you sent so I'm guessing my ìend doesn't think its seen them before which is also interesting. The ìmissing ryan post also arrived too.

    Spec


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