• COVID in USA

    From ryan@21:1/168 to All on Mon Mar 16 23:05:01 2020
    Hey guys, I had a bit of a freak out moment earlier today. The greater San Francisco Bay Area is going on lock down basically starting tonight at
    midnight and will be for the next three weeks at least.

    This means a lot of people are not going to be able to work and support themselves or their families.

    The disparity of wealth here is alarming. There are haves and have-nots, and nothing in between. Everyone on the other side of the freeway from where I
    live is totally screwed starting tonight at midnight.

    I'm very worried about what happens when these people have no way to feed
    their families. How many meals does someone miss before they become
    criminals? I shudder to think what I'd do in that position.

    So, I decided to clean my gun today and try to stock up on ammo. It's a
    strange feeling. But the US is a tinderbox waiting for violence to erupt. We have disparity of wealth and as many guns as people.

    Our federal government is doing what they can to protect the economy, but
    only as it pertains to the wealthy; poor people don't pay rent or buy
    McDonalds because of their stock investments.

    If the federal government really wanted to make sure we don't digress into mayhem, they'd give all families emergency spending money to the tune of a
    few thousand bucks a month and tell us to ride out the virus and stay home.
    But they won't do that, and it'll be anarchy out here. I'm pretty worried.

    I hate to sound alarmist but I hope fellow Americans mentally prepare themselves for this type of eventuality.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to ryan on Tue Mar 17 18:20:00 2020
    On 03-16-20 19:05, ryan wrote to All <=-

    Hey guys, I had a bit of a freak out moment earlier today. The greater
    San Francisco Bay Area is going on lock down basically starting tonight
    at midnight and will be for the next three weeks at least.

    Ouch. :( That's going to be a challenge. Here, there's been so many cancellations that one might as well simply stay home. Guess almost a "soft lockdown". :)


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  • From Argos@21:1/203 to ryan on Tue Mar 17 13:53:09 2020

    Hey guys, I had a bit of a freak out moment earlier today. The greater
    San Francisco Bay Area is going on lock down basically starting tonight
    at midnight and will be for the next three weeks at least.

    Wow .... This type of draconian sledge hammer is serious and has a really
    bad impact. Understanding why such drastic, but really bad mojo.


    This means a lot of people are not going to be able to work and support themselves or their families.

    This impact is is being felt everywhere. lots of fear.

    The disparity of wealth here is alarming. There are haves and have-nots, and nothing in between. Everyone on the other side of the freeway from where I live is totally screwed starting tonight at midnight.

    I'm very worried about what happens when these people have no way to feed their families. How many meals does someone miss before they become criminals? I shudder to think what I'd do in that position.

    You bet this can and will happen. if is about surviving ...

    So, I decided to clean my gun today and try to stock up on ammo. It's a strange feeling. But the US is a tinderbox waiting for violence to
    erupt. We have disparity of wealth and as many guns as people.

    Wow ... I am a major 2A person. Reading this from a CA person and a firearm I am speechless. This is exactly what 2A is all about, the right to defend and protect. Go you!


    Our federal government is doing what they can to protect the economy, but only as it pertains to the wealthy; poor people don't pay rent or buy McDonalds because of their stock investments.

    If the federal government really wanted to make sure we don't digress
    into mayhem, they'd give all families emergency spending money to the
    tune of a few thousand bucks a month and tell us to ride out the virus
    and stay home. But they won't do that, and it'll be anarchy out here.
    I'm pretty worried.

    I hate to sound alarmist but I hope fellow Americans mentally prepare themselves for this type of eventuality.

    This is not being an alarmist, it is being real. Hey, if you have extra TP, i sure can use a pack or two here :)


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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Argos on Tue Mar 17 18:17:09 2020
    I'm very worried about what happens when these people have no way to their families. How many meals does someone miss before they become criminals? I shudder to think what I'd do in that position.

    I've been thinking about this myself.

    I think we should look through old meal plans that the depression age was using.

    Squirls, etc.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to niter3 on Tue Mar 17 17:21:21 2020
    Squirls, etc.

    bats from China...hehe

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to ryan on Wed Mar 18 13:55:00 2020

    bats from China...hehe

    Is that the Chinese Batman?

    Our bats aren't any better.. they all carry the lyssavirus.

    Spec


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Wed Mar 18 16:53:00 2020
    On 03-18-20 09:55, Spectre wrote to ryan <=-


    bats from China...hehe

    Is that the Chinese Batman?

    Our bats aren't any better.. they all carry the lyssavirus.

    And there's also Hendra virus, which is very deadly and spread from bats to horses, then humans.


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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to ryan on Wed Mar 18 20:49:02 2020
    On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 19:05:01 -0700
    "ryan -> All" <0@168.1.21> wrote:

    So, I decided to clean my gun today and try to stock up on ammo. It's
    a strange feeling.

    Hunting food?

    I'm glad that I don't have to think about guns, ammo and violence in Europe. From my perspective that is really a strange idea ...

    I also believe that you won't have more violence in the US, I think it i more likely that it goes down.

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Oli on Thu Mar 19 10:38:56 2020
    On 18 Mar 2020 at 04:49p, Oli pondered and said...

    Hunting food?

    I hunt for food, but not with firearms. I much
    prefer archery.

    I'm glad that I don't have to think about guns, ammo and violence in Europe. From my perspective that is really a strange idea ...

    I wouldn't be so cavalier with those assumptions.
    Europe has been an unbelievable fount of violence
    over the centuries, and is no stranger to rioting.

    I also believe that you won't have more violence in the US, I think it i more likely that it goes down.

    This may be true, but it may also go through a
    period of transition where we see increasing
    violence before a more invasive government
    intervention; say, the deployment of National
    Guard troops.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to tenser on Wed Mar 18 17:40:15 2020
    This may be true, but it may also go through a
    period of transition where we see increasing
    violence before a more invasive government
    intervention; say, the deployment of National
    Guard troops.

    Frankly I think our state governments are remiss for not doing this already.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to ryan on Wed Mar 18 22:58:54 2020
    Squirls, etc.
    bats from China...hehe

    Snakes if in America (tastes like chicken). Not sure of what they would eat
    in Ireland...since St. Patrick was so short-sighted that he removed all the snakes from there.

    Something I don't understand. Did Patrick call a star ship & had them beamed up...then transported aboard an alien ship before they could warp out of
    orbit or what??? ;D

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to ryan on Wed Mar 18 23:26:39 2020
    violence before a more invasive government
    intervention; say, the deployment of National
    Guard troops.
    Frankly I think our state governments are remiss for not doing this already.

    Not surprised when you have the leadership at the federal level who think the violent ones are fine people. Until this BS changes...don't think we'll see troops out except for rallies without weapons.

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to ryan on Thu Mar 19 19:37:34 2020
    On 16 Mar 2020 at 07:05p, ryan pondered and said...

    Hey guys, I had a bit of a freak out moment earlier today. The greater
    San Francisco Bay Area is going on lock down basically starting tonight
    at midnight and will be for the next three weeks at least.

    i heard that.. im from sacramento, i have two children that live there. they are off school for one month, and their town has imposed some shelter in
    place rules. mom, whos a teacher, has been told to quietly prepare for no return to school for this school year.

    This means a lot of people are not going to be able to work and support themselves or their families.

    The disparity of wealth here is alarming. There are haves and have-nots, and nothing in between. Everyone on the other side of the freeway from where I live is totally screwed starting tonight at midnight.

    hmmm... i think i know exactly where you live.... i know emeryville well. i
    do think our gov is talking like they're gonna step up in that department.
    this has never happened in our lifetime, and the gov couldn't talk about helping like they are and not follow through. so as long as your some type of professional you'll get compensation soon enough. i think they're going to
    come through there... lets hope.

    I'm very worried about what happens when these people have no way to feed their families. How many meals does someone miss before they become criminals? I shudder to think what I'd do in that position.

    again, i implore you to trust the response of the united states of america. i believe the gov is gonna come through, and if not your fellow americans will stand up. i literally know that i will, in this response... we aren't going anywhere, and we're the best equipped to handle this... if you can do for others, do. and if you need help, take it.

    So, I decided to clean my gun today and try to stock up on ammo. It's a strange feeling. But the US is a tinderbox waiting for violence to
    erupt. We have disparity of wealth and as many guns as people.

    always best to be ready... i have a couple at the ready, if sh*t pops off stupid style... my mother is in a stroke rehab facility in ohio, on full lockdown... no visitors, only essential staff to see her... she's gonna make
    it out too. we got this.

    Our federal government is doing what they can to protect the economy, but only as it pertains to the wealthy; poor people don't pay rent or buy McDonalds because of their stock investments.

    i think you're right.. but WRONG. sure, in the end they will take care of the rich more... but NOW, in THIS response... with everything thats counting on
    it; they will step in. watch.

    If the federal government really wanted to make sure we don't digress
    into mayhem, they'd give all families emergency spending money to the
    tune of a few thousand bucks a month and tell us to ride out the virus
    and stay home. But they won't do that, and it'll be anarchy out here.
    I'm pretty worried.

    they are supposed to announce something TODAY. 3/18/2020... i bet you any
    money they do. it is gonna be between $1000 - 4500 per household... approx.
    so, if you goto the white house website and check for a new press statement. our gov is gonna come through within 2 weeks actual money help to you.

    I hate to sound alarmist but I hope fellow Americans mentally prepare themselves for this type of eventuality.

    this is what rings most true to me; i think we are in for a ride. i think
    it'll be bigger than we think, but not the end of the world... you and i are
    in one of the best places to be to ride this out & come out the other end... seriously, lets do our part to minimize the curve - thats whats important. if WE fail to do what is right (STAY THE FUCK HOME), our gov is going to smash thru this... if we make it come in waves through stupidity.... well... thats what im scared of; society are sheeple. god lets us all do the right thing...

    M@STERMiND

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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Argos on Wed Mar 18 17:05:00 2020
    Argos wrote to ryan <=-


    Hey guys, I had a bit of a freak out moment earlier today. The greater
    San Francisco Bay Area is going on lock down basically starting tonight
    at midnight and will be for the next three weeks at least.

    Wow .... This type of draconian sledge hammer is serious and has a
    really bad impact. Understanding why such drastic, but really bad
    mojo.

    We are in Indianapolis and there's talk of that here - I said that
    "shelter in place" sounds better than "martial law," but is there really
    any difference?

    I'm very worried about what happens when these people have no way to feed their families. How many meals does someone miss before they become criminals? I shudder to think what I'd do in that position.

    It will get worse before it gets better, I'm afraid...

    So, I decided to clean my gun today and try to stock up on ammo. It's a strange feeling. But the US is a tinderbox waiting for violence to
    erupt. We have disparity of wealth and as many guns as people.

    Yeah - I have the legal right to carry, and I do carry, and we have
    guns at home. I hope and pray it does NOT come to that, but I am
    prepared to defend myself and my loved ones if the need arises.



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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Oli on Wed Mar 18 17:12:00 2020
    Oli wrote to ryan <=-

    I also believe that you won't have more violence in the US, I think it
    i more likely that it goes down.

    Good point! Where I live, there are a lot of gun owners, so the 'gangs'
    would probably not come out here - too many good ole boys with shotguns
    and no objection to protecting mama!




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Tenser on Thu Mar 19 04:19:00 2020
    tenser wrote to Oli <=-

    I also believe that you won't have more violence in the US, I think it i more likely that it goes down.

    This may be true, but it may also go through a
    period of transition where we see increasing
    violence before a more invasive government
    intervention; say, the deployment of National
    Guard troops.

    We're on the brink of martial law already...




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Ryan on Thu Mar 19 04:26:00 2020
    ryan wrote to tenser <=-

    This may be true, but it may also go through a
    period of transition where we see increasing
    violence before a more invasive government
    intervention; say, the deployment of National
    Guard troops.

    Frankly I think our state governments are remiss for not doing this already.

    Oh I disagree... So far, no one has done anything WRONG. Yeah, overbuying toilet paper and food might be 'disruptive' in a sense, but it's panic
    buying. I think it will die down. Bringing out the NG to 'keep the peace'
    when people aren't doing anything illegal? Scary stuff...




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Mastermind on Thu Mar 19 05:09:00 2020
    mastermind wrote to ryan <=-

    I hate to sound alarmist but I hope fellow Americans mentally prepare themselves for this type of eventuality.

    this is what rings most true to me; i think we are in for a ride. i
    think it'll be bigger than we think, but not the end of the world...

    This... I agree with this... I think it will get worse before it gets
    better, and I feel like things are going to change in a social way... Just
    like airline travel changed after 9/11, I think this is going to change gatherings and how we respond to others that 'cough and sneeze.'

    I'm also bothered by the almost matial law that's happening...



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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Jimmy Anderson on Thu Mar 19 12:44:25 2020
    Oh I disagree... So far, no one has done anything WRONG. Yeah, overbuying toilet paper and food might be 'disruptive' in a sense, but it's panic buying. I think it will die down. Bringing out the NG to 'keep the peace' when people aren't doing anything illegal? Scary stuff...

    People are still going out of their houses to go shopping and doing whatever else they feel like doing. That's kind of wrong in a pandemic.

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to ryan on Thu Mar 19 15:11:09 2020
    People are still going out of their houses to go shopping and doing whatever else they feel like doing. That's kind of wrong in a pandemic.
    Yes, and based on what I saw when traveling through the airports on Sunday people are idiots. Nobody was practicing social distancing, people were coughing into the air or their hands, some little shit kid open mouth belched into the airplane gate boarding line which was jammed full of people. Myself and one other gentleman were the only people who were actually standing 6ft away, and then on the gangway same shit, i put my carryon bag behind me
    because people kept coming right up on my ass.
    There was zero checking of people at the incoming border off the cruise ship, the airports weren't doing anything at all.

    Hearing about what Canada is doing makes me feel ashamed about the US.

    So, yeah, people are idiots, and this will continue to spread.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Embalmed on Thu Mar 19 19:57:58 2020
    people were coughing into the air or their hands, some little shit kid open mouth belched into the airplane gate boarding line which was jammed full of people. Myself and one other gentleman were the only people who

    Just had a thought while reading this. Am totally serious when I ask this.
    Know the little idiot was acting up to his greatest goal in life. Has anyone said anything about farting around other groups of people? I can "crop dust" a few counties in Kansas/Nebraska...but coming out the other hand...does this make it less dangerous? It smells...but is it still as dangerous as a cough
    or a sneeze?

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to Phoobar on Thu Mar 19 21:50:28 2020
    Just had a thought while reading this. Am totally serious when I ask
    this. Know the little idiot was acting up to his greatest goal in life. Has anyone said anything about farting around other groups of people? I can "crop dust" a few counties in Kansas/Nebraska...but coming out the other hand...does this make it less dangerous? It smells...but is it
    still as dangerous as a cough or a sneeze?

    I highly doubt it is as dangerous since it is a respiratory disease. Interesting to think about though lol :)

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Argos on Fri Mar 20 23:15:39 2020
    Wow ... I am a major 2A person. Reading this from a CA person and a firearm I am speechless. This is exactly what 2A is all about, the right to defend and protect. Go you!

    can you help a brother? i am in need of some 9mm standard; even a few cases would be awesome... funny thing is; in america we will still be running our 'essential amazon' deliveries; really, if you can help with 9mm...

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Oli on Fri Mar 20 23:20:49 2020
    I'm glad that I don't have to think about guns, ammo and violence in Europe. From my perspective that is really a strange idea ...

    I also believe that you won't have more violence in the US, I think it i more likely that it goes down.

    us americans do believe in protecting ourselves against enemies; foriegn AND domestic... im afraid the gov will make sure theres no restock on the ammo - we're already completely sold out of every type... possible to buy a shotgun and shells; but no 9mm or 45acp until after national emergency. thats me guessing; but i think im right. :(

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to tenser on Fri Mar 20 23:22:37 2020
    This may be true, but it may also go through a
    period of transition where we see increasing
    violence before a more invasive government
    intervention; say, the deployment of National
    Guard troops.

    dont get me wrong; im fully a law abiding american citizen... i think your right tho, the military is going to step in quickly. from what i can see on
    the wall, i think they'll enact a nation-wide (in america) enforcement this weekend. READ folks, the info is all around you.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to ryan on Fri Mar 20 23:25:06 2020
    On 18 Mar 2020 at 01:40p, ryan pondered and said...

    This may be true, but it may also go through a
    period of transition where we see increasing
    violence before a more invasive government
    intervention; say, the deployment of National
    Guard troops.

    Frankly I think our state governments are remiss for not doing this already.

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    i agree with you. the first time i was actually concerned in this outbreak
    was when i saw the people on spring break in florida on the beach... and our government failing to send the military immediately. im doing my part; and others are so selfish, and going to put our at risk population in harms way. literally going to kill americans.

    i cannot believe we're here.. i have faith, i think the gov is going to show
    up in a lot of ways; but i believe this is bigger than we're ready for. M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Phoobar on Fri Mar 20 23:37:47 2020
    Not surprised when you have the leadership at the federal level who
    think the violent ones are fine people. Until this BS changes...don't think we'll see troops out except for rallies without weapons.

    i dont know man; the way its going, i expect the american gov to enforce lockdown this weekend, and switch to martial law if the population doesnt adhere to its guidelines...

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Jimmy Anderson on Fri Mar 20 23:40:30 2020
    We are in Indianapolis and there's talk of that here - I said that "shelter in place" sounds better than "martial law," but is there really any difference?

    yes; that first shelter in place order will not be enforced by law enforecement... they'll be waiting, but martial law is after that. i think it will become national shelter in place this weekend, followed by military intervention if the population doesnt adhere.

    3/19/2020

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Jimmy Anderson on Fri Mar 20 23:41:47 2020
    On 18 Mar 2020 at 01:12p, Jimmy Anderson pondered and said...

    Oli wrote to ryan <=-

    I also believe that you won't have more violence in the US, I think i i more likely that it goes down.

    Good point! Where I live, there are a lot of gun owners, so the 'gangs' would probably not come out here - too many good ole boys with shotguns and no objection to protecting mama!




    anyone that can help a law abiding citizen with any 9mm rounds; i literally could use a few cases & wont be getting any in this situation. help.

    good ole america will still have one day shipping, if anyone has extra stock. message me please.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Jimmy Anderson on Fri Mar 20 23:46:12 2020
    This... I agree with this... I think it will get worse before it gets better, and I feel like things are going to change in a social way...
    Just like airline travel changed after 9/11, I think this is going to change gatherings and how we respond to others that 'cough and sneeze.'

    I'm also bothered by the almost matial law that's happening...

    i dont know whether to be afraid of it, or that we're better off with it; the only reason i say that is because of my fellow americans. we arent exaclty
    made from the same grain that we were 50 years ago....

    M@STERMiND

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 03:48:40 2020
    can you help a brother? i am in need of some 9mm standard; even a few cases would be awesome... funny thing is; in america we will still be running our 'essential amazon' deliveries; really, if you can help with 9mm...

    I got about 1k rounds of 45ACP with an additional five mags. I also got everything registered correctly with the stupid California State weapon registry site hehe

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to ryan on Fri Mar 20 23:50:01 2020
    On 19 Mar 2020 at 08:44a, ryan pondered and said...

    Oh I disagree... So far, no one has done anything WRONG. Yeah, overbu toilet paper and food might be 'disruptive' in a sense, but it's pani buying. I think it will die down. Bringing out the NG to 'keep the pe when people aren't doing anything illegal? Scary stuff...

    People are still going out of their houses to go shopping and doing whatever else they feel like doing. That's kind of wrong in a pandemic.

    in america, the streets are more busy than normal. it boggles my mind; but if folks think we're winning any kind of social distancing race, i think their mistaken....


    america needs to wake up - before the government forces us to.

    and i hope they dont act too late.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 03:50:53 2020
    i cannot believe we're here.. i have faith, i think the gov is going to show up in a lot of ways; but i believe this is bigger than we're ready for. M@STERMiND

    Yeah, I agree. And I also don't think this is a 2 week problem. I think this
    is the beginning of the "new normal" that we'll experience for at least a few months. It's already feeling reminiscent of the immediate shocking lifestyle changes we had to make following 9/11.

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Embalmed on Fri Mar 20 23:51:21 2020
    Hearing about what Canada is doing makes me feel ashamed about the US.

    So, yeah, people are idiots, and this will continue to spread.

    what do you hear canada doing that the u.s. isnt? im not being a smart ass; i think were in a unique position to document this infection.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 03:54:27 2020
    yes; that first shelter in place order will not be enforced by law enforecement... they'll be waiting, but martial law is after that. i
    think it will become national shelter in place this weekend, followed by military intervention if the population doesnt adhere.

    I drove from Palo Alto to Sacramento and back today, and there were a decent number of cars on the road. I never hit a traffic jam, but there was
    definitely parts of the flow that were moving slowly.

    I also noticed a ton of cops on the road but they weren't pulling people over.

    It's beginning to feel a bit creepy out there.

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Phoobar on Fri Mar 20 23:55:13 2020
    Just had a thought while reading this. Am totally serious when I ask
    this. Know the little idiot was acting up to his greatest goal in life. Has anyone said anything about farting around other groups of people? I can "crop dust" a few counties in Kansas/Nebraska...but coming out the other hand...does this make it less dangerous? It smells...but is it
    still as dangerous as a cough or a sneeze?

    if you're being honest, i dont think a fart will transmit covid-19. it is an airborne disease transferred through wet particles - on the lighter side, i guess it depends on what type of fart you're bombing us with. :P

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to ryan on Fri Mar 20 23:58:26 2020
    I got about 1k rounds of 45ACP with an additional five mags. I also got everything registered correctly with the stupid California State weapon registry site hehe

    likewise... i just need 9mm, as i basically have one magazine and a paper weight.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to ryan on Fri Mar 20 23:59:52 2020
    On 19 Mar 2020 at 11:50p, ryan pondered and said...

    i cannot believe we're here.. i have faith, i think the gov is going show up in a lot of ways; but i believe this is bigger than we're rea for. M@STERMiND

    Yeah, I agree. And I also don't think this is a 2 week problem. I think this is the beginning of the "new normal" that we'll experience for at least a few months. It's already feeling reminiscent of the immediate shocking lifestyle changes we had to make following 9/11.


    we're all in this together. ultimately, the american people will come
    together. i just fear the stupidity of our population will cause that to be much more drawn out than needed... at a cost of human life. :/


    jesus christ.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to ryan on Sat Mar 21 00:01:57 2020
    I drove from Palo Alto to Sacramento and back today, and there were a decent number of cars on the road. I never hit a traffic jam, but there was definitely parts of the flow that were moving slowly.

    I also noticed a ton of cops on the road but they weren't pulling people over.


    It's beginning to feel a bit creepy out there.


    they're going to give the population a chance to do it without law
    enforcement intervention... problem is, we're too late as it is. we need to fucking buttong up and stay home.

    the population isnt doing this - the government needs to DO what its going to do... this is a crazy time. america, come together!

    M@STERMiND

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 04:03:22 2020
    likewise... i just need 9mm, as i basically have one magazine and a paper weight.

    Where are you located? I don't have access to any 9mm (in California you can only buy ammo for the gun you have registered and in registered according to current paperwork correctly; it's actually tough) but we can leverage friends to try to get you some.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 23:16:00 2020
    On 03-20-20 19:37, mastermind wrote to Phoobar <=-

    i dont know man; the way its going, i expect the american gov to
    enforce lockdown this weekend, and switch to martial law if the
    population doesnt adhere to its guidelines...

    The government here are looking at targeted lockdowns on an as needed basis, to deal with clusters of infections.


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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Vk3jed on Fri Mar 20 05:25:03 2020
    The government here are looking at targeted lockdowns on an as needed basis, to deal with clusters of infections.

    How does that work when infected persons can go symptom free for weeks (if
    they show symptoms at all) yet are able to transmit the virus?

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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 12:09:35 2020
    On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 19:20:49 +1300
    "mastermind -> Oli" <0@101.1.21> wrote:

    I'm glad that I don't have to think about guns, ammo and
    violence in Europe. From my perspective that is really a
    strange idea ...

    I also believe that you won't have more violence in the US, I
    think it i more likely that it goes down.

    us americans do believe in protecting ourselves against enemies;
    foriegn AND domestic... im afraid the gov will make sure theres no
    restock on the ammo - we're already completely sold out of every
    type... possible to buy a shotgun and shells; but no 9mm or 45acp
    until after national emergency. thats me guessing; but i think im
    right. :(

    I know, the US is a crazy paranoid country ... kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Embalmed on Fri Mar 20 05:45:53 2020
    Just had a thought while reading this. Am totally serious when I ask this. Know the little idiot was acting up to his greatest goal in lif Has anyone said anything about farting around other groups of people? can "crop dust" a few counties in Kansas/Nebraska...but coming out th other hand...does this make it less dangerous? It smells...but is it still as dangerous as a cough or a sneeze?
    I highly doubt it is as dangerous since it is a respiratory disease. Interesting to think about though lol :)

    Now...the question of the day I will ask some at work. Will have to
    experiment with it as well as I walk around the store.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to ryan on Fri Mar 20 23:46:00 2020
    On 03-20-20 01:25, ryan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The government here are looking at targeted lockdowns on an as needed basis, to deal with clusters of infections.

    How does that work when infected persons can go symptom free for weeks
    (if they show symptoms at all) yet are able to transmit the virus?

    Time will tell.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 06:12:34 2020
    i dont know man; the way its going, i expect the american gov to enforce lockdown this weekend, and switch to martial law if the population doesnt adhere to its guidelines...

    Not sure if the government is smart enough to do a nationwide lockdown. The problem is with as many open spaces out West here...they can't cover every square acre out there.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 06:15:51 2020
    if you're being honest, i dont think a fart will transmit covid-19. it
    is an airborne disease transferred through wet particles - on the
    lighter side, i guess it depends on what type of fart you're bombing us with. :P

    It's from an orifice...so I just started going crazy & laughing at myself.

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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Phoobar on Fri Mar 20 15:27:51 2020
    On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 15:57:58 -0700
    "Phoobar -> Embalmed" <0@147.2.21> wrote:

    people were coughing into the air or their hands, some little
    shit kid open mouth belched into the airplane gate boarding
    line which was jammed full of people. Myself and one other
    gentleman were the only people who

    Just had a thought while reading this. Am totally serious when I ask
    this. Know the little idiot was acting up to his greatest goal in
    life. Has anyone said anything about farting around other groups of
    people? I can "crop dust" a few counties in Kansas/Nebraska...but
    coming out the other hand...does this make it less dangerous? It smells...but is it still as dangerous as a cough or a sneeze?

    If you can't smell the farts anymore that would be a sign of Covid-19.

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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Vk3jed on Fri Mar 20 15:33:12 2020
    On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 19:16:00 +1100
    "Vk3jed -> mastermind" <0@109.1.21> wrote:

    On 03-20-20 19:37, mastermind wrote to Phoobar <=-

    i dont know man; the way its going, i expect the american gov to
    enforce lockdown this weekend, and switch to martial law if the
    population doesnt adhere to its guidelines...

    The government here are looking at targeted lockdowns on an as needed basis, to deal with clusters of infections.

    until the whole USA will be on big cluster (and the biggest in the world).

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  • From Joacim Melin@21:2/130 to ryan on Fri Mar 20 16:40:27 2020
    Hey guys, I had a bit of a freak out moment earlier today. The greater
    San
    Francisco Bay Area is going on lock down basically starting tonight at midnight and will be for the next three weeks at least.

    This means a lot of people are not going to be able to work and
    support
    themselves or their families.

    The disparity of wealth here is alarming. There are haves and
    have-nots, and
    nothing in between. Everyone on the other side of the freeway from
    where I
    live is totally screwed starting tonight at midnight.

    I'm very worried about what happens when these people have no way to
    feed
    their families. How many meals does someone miss before they become criminals? I shudder to think what I'd do in that position.

    So, I decided to clean my gun today and try to stock up on ammo. It's
    a
    strange feeling. But the US is a tinderbox waiting for violence to
    erupt. We
    have disparity of wealth and as many guns as people.

    Our federal government is doing what they can to protect the economy,
    but
    only as it pertains to the wealthy; poor people don't pay rent or buy McDonalds because of their stock investments.

    If the federal government really wanted to make sure we don't digress
    into
    mayhem, they'd give all families emergency spending money to the tune
    of a
    few thousand bucks a month and tell us to ride out the virus and stay
    home.
    But they won't do that, and it'll be anarchy out here. I'm pretty
    worried.

    I hate to sound alarmist but I hope fellow Americans mentally prepare themselves for this type of eventuality.

    Stay safe and take care of your loved ones and help anyone you can help.


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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to ryan on Sat Mar 21 06:02:38 2020
    On 19 Mar 2020 at 08:44a, ryan pondered and said...

    Oh I disagree... So far, no one has done anything WRONG. Yeah, overbu toilet paper and food might be 'disruptive' in a sense, but it's pani buying. I think it will die down. Bringing out the NG to 'keep the pe when people aren't doing anything illegal? Scary stuff...

    People are still going out of their houses to go shopping and doing whatever else they feel like doing. That's kind of wrong in a pandemic.

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    and in short order, their actions will cost the lives of american citizens
    who are at risk... which is slowly beginning to prove to be much more than
    our aging population.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to ryan on Sat Mar 21 06:07:39 2020
    Where are you located? I don't have access to any 9mm (in California you can only buy ammo for the gun you have registered and in registered according to current paperwork correctly; it's actually tough) but we
    can leverage friends to try to get you some.

    thanks - im in the portland, or area... its non-emergency; well... fuck...
    its an emergency that i'd drive anywhere in the metro to remedy. no biggy if not, but if you know anyone willing to part with a couple, few; more cases,
    id bite...

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Sat Mar 21 06:13:47 2020
    i dont know man; the way its going, i expect the american gov to enforce lockdown this weekend, and switch to martial law if the population doesnt adhere to its guidelines...

    The government here are looking at targeted lockdowns on an as needed basis, to deal with clusters of infections.

    The way its going in America, I think we need more than targeted lockdowns... and i'd highly suggest your country to do the same.... this thing is big; bigger than we thought. i've been creating a timeline and i'll post it after reading all new... its skewed towards the United States, but has plenty of nuggets of info...

    We knew, or should have known by the evidence, that this was a fucking pandemic...

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to ryan on Sat Mar 21 06:15:45 2020
    On 20 Mar 2020 at 01:25a, ryan pondered and said...

    The government here are looking at targeted lockdowns on an as needed basis, to deal with clusters of infections.

    How does that work when infected persons can go symptom free for weeks
    (if they show symptoms at all) yet are able to transmit the virus?

    BINGO, ryan... i fear that the United States has widespread infection that we dont know about as of today. no fucking tests... well, very limited. (Hope no other countries citizens take offense to this, but...) America, the leader of the free world; and we dont have the millions and millions of tests that we need? what the actual....

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Oli on Sat Mar 21 06:18:32 2020
    I know, the US is a crazy paranoid country ... kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    you do realize that our guns arent the real killer in the room, right? and
    that killer is flowing through the WORLD - now isnt the time to look down on other countries - but the time for all us humans to come together...

    i respect and will honor all humans in the pandemic; and try to remember that the stereotypes Americans are given are just that...

    Godspeed; and im with you, too.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Phoobar on Sat Mar 21 06:23:32 2020
    Not sure if the government is smart enough to do a nationwide lockdown. The problem is with as many open spaces out West here...they can't cover every square acre out there.

    i agree with you... but with how this is growing, and by watching the trends
    of countries ahead of the United States, i think (hell, hope even..) that
    they will pop that one on us this weekend, or soon after. they are gearing
    the public up for it - california goes first... new york to follow... sending hospital ships to california and new york; the writing is all over the wall, and im scared about the stupidity in our society. these folks arent grasping it.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to ryan on Fri Mar 20 12:03:00 2020
    ryan wrote to mastermind <=-

    Yeah, I agree. And I also don't think this is a 2 week problem. I
    think this is the beginning of the "new normal" that we'll
    experience for at least a few months. It's already feeling
    reminiscent of the immediate shocking lifestyle changes we had to
    make following 9/11.

    What "immediate shocking lifestyle changes" did you have to make
    after 9/11?



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 12:04:00 2020
    mastermind wrote to ryan <=-

    I got about 1k rounds of 45ACP with an additional five mags. I also got everything registered correctly with the stupid California State weapon registry site hehe

    likewise... i just need 9mm, as i basically have one magazine and
    a paper weight.

    You own a gun, but don't have any ammo for it? <BOGGLE>



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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Gamgee on Sat Mar 21 06:31:05 2020
    You own a gun, but don't have any ammo for it? <BOGGLE>

    i moved to oregon from texas last summer. sold my guns, as the two states
    have differing laws. bought one small piece when i got here, and only bought range ammo... i have 30rounds or so, and then i own a paper weight. i just
    want a few cases so i have SOME protection.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 14:11:00 2020
    mastermind wrote to Gamgee <=-

    You own a gun, but don't have any ammo for it? <BOGGLE>

    i moved to oregon from texas last summer. sold my guns, as the
    two states have differing laws.

    There are no laws in Oregon that would have prevented you from
    bringing whatever you had in Texas.

    bought one small piece when i got
    here, and only bought range ammo... i have 30rounds or so, and
    then i own a paper weight. i just want a few cases so i have SOME protection.

    Okay, just seems odd to me to not have an adequate supply,
    including self-defense type. You can probably get some easily
    enough online from places like Midway, AIM, Graffs, etc.



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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to Phoobar on Fri Mar 20 14:16:22 2020
    other hand...does this make it less dangerous? It smells...but i still as dangerous as a cough or a sneeze?
    I highly doubt it is as dangerous since it is a respiratory disease. Interesting to think about though lol :)

    Now...the question of the day I will ask some at work. Will have to experiment with it as well as I walk around the store.
    My GF said there was some case of COVID that spread due to shared plumbing,
    so I may be wrong in my assumption.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Embalmed on Fri Mar 20 16:47:00 2020
    Embalmed wrote to Phoobar <=-

    Now...the question of the day I will ask some at work. Will have to experiment with it as well as I walk around the store.

    My GF said there was some case of COVID that spread due to shared plumbing, so I may be wrong in my assumption.

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    Not related to the discussion at hand, but wanted to ask... Is
    your BBS name a reference to the 90's TV series "Twin Peaks"?

    If so, that's freakin outstanding! One of the best shows ever to
    be on TV!!! Well done sir.



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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Embalmed on Sat Mar 21 10:52:13 2020
    On 20 Mar 2020 at 10:16a, Embalmed pondered and said...

    My GF said there was some case of COVID that spread due to shared plumbing, so I may be wrong in my assumption.

    Sounds like a rumor, my dude.

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to Gamgee on Fri Mar 20 15:07:56 2020
    Not related to the discussion at hand, but wanted to ask... Is
    your BBS name a reference to the 90's TV series "Twin Peaks"?

    If so, that's freakin outstanding! One of the best shows ever to
    be on TV!!! Well done sir.
    Yeah, it comes from my hackerspace whose chosen logo is that of the bookhouse boys from Twin Peaks. And there is a crappy ascii representation of it when you connect to the BBS.

    I saw in one of the Ansi art packs on the interwebs someone made some twin peaks stuff, I would really like to use them on the site, but they were
    posted in PNG not ANSI, and I don't know where to find them for realsies.

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to tenser on Fri Mar 20 15:08:53 2020
    Sounds like a rumor, my dude.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/asia/hong-kong-coronavirus-pipes-intl-hnk/index. html

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 15:42:10 2020
    what do you hear canada doing that the u.s. isnt? im not being a smart ass; i think were in a unique position to document this infection.

    Netsurge and several of the other canadians have been talking about it across multiple forums. Needless to say doing anything at the airports is better
    than what we are doing.

    TSA Agents at FLL airport were covid positive 4 days before I went through there. TSA Agents never change their gloves, are forced to be in contact
    with everyone passing through.

    People who are using their phones as boarding passes, guess what you just
    stuck your dirty phone surface right up on everyone elses dirty phone
    surfaces.

    Airport gate agents don't wear gloves, and touch your and everyone elses boarding pass.

    Canada is taking action, while America on the whole is doing jack shit.
    Local government is stepping up, but we are getting inconsistent messaging
    from the white house, even on prepared speeches, I don't even know how that works. Trump will give a speech, and then tweet a retraction an hour later.

    I will leave it to the Canadians to give you more examples of how they are taking action, mostly I only have examples of America's inaction.

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to ryan on Fri Mar 20 15:44:06 2020
    likewise... i just need 9mm, as i basically have one magazine and a p weight.

    Where are you located? I don't have access to any 9mm (in California you can only buy ammo for the gun you have registered and in registered according to current paperwork correctly; it's actually tough) but we
    can leverage friends to try to get you some.

    Don't know anyone with a reloader? I know a ton of people who make their own ammo and reuse their brass.

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to ryan on Fri Mar 20 15:47:08 2020
    The government here are looking at targeted lockdowns on an as needed basis, to deal with clusters of infections.

    How does that work when infected persons can go symptom free for weeks
    (if they show symptoms at all) yet are able to transmit the virus?

    Agreed, targetted lockdowns simply will be ineffective, everyone has to lockdown since there is no way to tell who is infected and who isn't.

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Embalmed on Sat Mar 21 11:51:13 2020
    On 20 Mar 2020 at 11:08a, Embalmed pondered and said...

    Sounds like a rumor, my dude.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/12/asia/hong-kong-coronavirus-pipes-intl-hnk/i html

    Hmm. I read that article; it includes this:

    Microbiologist Yuen Kwok-yung said at a Tuesday press conference that an
    improperly sealed pipe could have resulted in a virus transmission, by
    carrying infected feces into the building's ventilation system and blowing
    it into people's bathrooms.

    "As the pipeline that transfers feces is connected to the air pipe, it is
    very likely for the virus in the feces to be transmitted through the air fan
    into the toilet," Yuen said.

    That is, the transmission vector was the air-carrying
    pipes, even if some fecal matter might have been involved
    in the transmission.

    But that article also doesn't talk about the conclusion
    to the investigation. I suspect that the much simpler
    explanation of asymptomatic community spread is the real
    culprit here.

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to tenser on Fri Mar 20 16:03:26 2020
    That is, the transmission vector was the air-carrying
    pipes, even if some fecal matter might have been involved
    in the transmission.

    But that article also doesn't talk about the conclusion
    to the investigation. I suspect that the much simpler
    explanation of asymptomatic community spread is the real
    culprit here.

    No, it doesn't, I only brought it up because we still don't know enough about how it transmits, and I certainly don't want to be one of the people
    spreading false information, even if it is about farts :D

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Embalmed on Fri Mar 20 20:57:54 2020
    I saw in one of the Ansi art packs on the interwebs someone made some
    twin peaks stuff, I would really like to use them on the site, but they were posted in PNG not ANSI, and I don't know where to find them for realsies.

    If you know the group or pack name you can look it up and download it from https://www.16colo.rs/

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Oli on Fri Mar 20 18:49:19 2020
    smells...but is it still as dangerous as a cough or a sneeze?
    If you can't smell the farts anymore that would be a sign of Covid-19.

    Never going to happen...since anything I produce smells like anything but a virus/bacteria has crawled up there & having a party. ;D

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 18:54:09 2020
    citizens who are at risk... which is slowly beginning to prove to be
    much more than our aging population.

    Look at the idiots screwing around on the beaches of Florida & saying
    whatever happens happens. This being the case...this is as bad as some of the cases of HIV infected individuals infecting others. Maybe we start suing some of these brats & see if their attitudes change.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 18:59:10 2020
    We knew, or should have known by the evidence, that this was a fucking pandemic...

    The last administration told the OPOS & its idiots this could happen...but
    they refused to listen. This being the case the whole administration needs to face charges in The Hague of mass genocide for the US and the racists more
    than willing to kill anything/anyone.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to mastermind on Fri Mar 20 19:05:10 2020
    writing is all over the wall, and im scared about the stupidity in our society. these folks arent grasping it.

    They will never grasp it. They have never nor will ever possess the intelligence to grasp anything more than Cat in the Hat type of logic.
    Asshats will be asshats & be proud of it.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Embalmed on Fri Mar 20 19:06:40 2020
    My GF said there was some case of COVID that spread due to shared plumbing, so I may be wrong in my assumption.

    Haven't heard this...but I guess it means I need to superglue the seat to my arse. ;D

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to tenser on Fri Mar 20 19:08:59 2020
    carrying infected feces into the building's ventilation system and blowing it into people's bathrooms.

    I know it's in bad taste...but couldn't stop myself. Brings a new meaning to the sh1t hitting the fan. ;D

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Gamgee on Fri Mar 20 19:18:02 2020
    What "immediate shocking lifestyle changes" did you have to make
    after 9/11?

    The way that we travel changed immediately. We initiated the Patriot Act and turned into a surveillance state. We started our nation's longest war,
    followed by our nation's stupidest war, that we're going to be paying for for out entire lifetimes.

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to Netsurge on Fri Mar 20 20:06:41 2020
    If you know the group or pack name you can look it up and download it
    from https://www.16colo.rs/

    That's actually where I spotted it, but it is just a .PNG

    https://16colo.rs/pack/mist1019/PHILLLLLLJAMES-PATHTOBLACKLODGE.PNG

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Oli on Sat Mar 21 13:49:00 2020
    On 03-20-20 11:33, Oli wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The government here are looking at targeted lockdowns on an as needed basis, to deal with clusters of infections.

    until the whole USA will be on big cluster (and the biggest in the
    world).

    Hmm, doesn't really follow (I wasn't talking about the US).


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to mastermind on Sat Mar 21 13:59:00 2020
    On 03-21-20 02:13, mastermind wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The way its going in America, I think we need more than targeted lockdowns... and i'd highly suggest your country to do the same....
    this thing is big; bigger than we thought. i've been creating a
    timeline and i'll post it after reading all new... its skewed towards
    the United States, but has plenty of nuggets of info...

    The Brits have an interesting idea, which goes like this:

    Start with a strict lockdown to get the spread under control initially.

    Once the case load is at a low level, and hospitals have spare capacity, then alternate between periods of relaxed and tightened restrictions to strike a balance between a functional world (and jobs, etc) and keeping the load on the hospitals manageable. Continue doing this until a vaccine is available (could be anything from 6 to 18 months). The cycles would be in the order of a few (2-3 I think) weeks tightened, then the same relaxed, adjusted to keep the hospitalisation numbers manageable. The scientists said that the effect on the hospitals would lag behind the adjustment of control measures by a few weeks.

    Final step then would be to vaccinate widely, before going back to normal living.

    Not sure how well it would work in practice, but it is interesting.

    We knew, or should have known by the evidence, that this was a fucking pandemic...

    Yes, it was obvious early on that this was going to be a pandemic.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Oli on Sat Mar 21 14:11:00 2020
    On 03-20-20 11:27, Oli wrote to Phoobar <=-

    If you can't smell the farts anymore that would be a sign of Covid-19.

    More likely a common cold. :P


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sat Mar 21 14:15:00 2020
    On 03-20-20 14:49, Phoobar wrote to Oli <=-

    smells...but is it still as dangerous as a cough or a sneeze?
    If you can't smell the farts anymore that would be a sign of Covid-19.

    Never going to happen...since anything I produce smells like anything
    but a virus/bacteria has crawled up there & having a party. ;D

    Or died weeks ago? ;P


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Fri Mar 20 21:36:13 2020
    the load on the hospitals manageable. Continue doing this until a
    vaccine is available (could be anything from 6 to 18 months). The
    cycles would be in the order of a few (2-3 I think) weeks tightened,

    Found this while doing some reading before going to work in about an hour:

    https://tinyurl.com/ua6866s

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Fri Mar 20 21:41:14 2020
    Never going to happen...since anything I produce smells like anything but a virus/bacteria has crawled up there & having a party. ;D
    Or died weeks ago? ;P

    That's why I have fur & hide coming out my backside. You are a genius!!! ;D

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  • From djatropine@21:1/105 to mastermind on Sat Mar 21 00:53:24 2020
    BINGO, ryan... i fear that the United States has widespread infection
    that we dont know about as of today. no fucking tests... well, very limited. (Hope no other countries citizens take offense to this, but...) America, the leader of the free world; and we dont have the millions and millions of tests that we need? what the actual....

    M@STERMiND

    It would NOT surprise me if 100% of the population of the planet has either had it or been exposed to it for months.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Phoobar on Sat Mar 21 07:31:00 2020
    It's from an orifice...so I just started going crazy & laughing at
    myself.

    A fundamental orrifice no less :) I reckon unless you're a nudist the
    chances are pretty low...


    Spec

    PS: Maybe nudist bum sniffers will be in strife...


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Embalmed on Sat Mar 21 13:07:00 2020
    I saw in one of the Ansi art packs on the interwebs someone made some twin peaks stuff, I would really like to use them on the site, but they were posted in PNG not ANSI, and I don't know where to find them for realsies.

    Where did you see them? Most sites will allow you to download the artpack or even individuals, although quite often its not very obvious. On the flip side,
    where you can't get them at least you've got a template for popping something together in TheDraw or Pablo, or yer favourite text editor.

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Embalmed on Sat Mar 21 16:36:00 2020
    If you know the group or pack name you can look it up and download it
    from https://www.16colo.rs/

    That's actually where I spotted it, but it is just a .PNG

    It might only be a png from a RIP image... usually you can just suck in .ans files.

    Spec

    PS: http://tlp.zapto.org/hidden_stuff/mist1019.zip

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Embalmed on Sat Mar 21 02:33:16 2020
    That's actually where I spotted it, but it is just a .PNG

    https://16colo.rs/pack/mist1019/PHILLLLLLJAMES-PATHTOBLACKLODGE.PNG

    That's because the artist created it as a png, not an ansi image.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to ryan on Sat Mar 21 01:03:00 2020
    ryan wrote to Gamgee <=-

    What "immediate shocking lifestyle changes" did you have to make
    after 9/11?

    The way that we travel changed immediately.

    Yep, it did, some. Became more inconvenient, but hardly what I'd
    call a shocking lifestyle change.

    We initiated the Patriot Act and turned into a surveillance state.

    That was already going on, this just made it more public. Again,
    I doubt this changed your lifestyle much.

    We started our nation's longest war, followed by our nation's
    stupidest war, that we're going to be paying for for out entire
    lifetimes.

    Well, yeah, there is that. Again..... unless you joined the
    military right after 9/11, this didn't likely change your
    lifestyle that much. I was already serving at the time.


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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Embalmed on Sat Mar 21 01:10:00 2020
    Embalmed wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Not related to the discussion at hand, but wanted to ask... Is
    your BBS name a reference to the 90's TV series "Twin Peaks"?

    If so, that's freakin outstanding! One of the best shows ever to
    be on TV!!! Well done sir.

    Yeah, it comes from my hackerspace whose chosen logo is that of
    the bookhouse boys from Twin Peaks. And there is a crappy ascii representation of it when you connect to the BBS.

    Very cool. Just did some googling and it seems maybe there was a
    sequel or something made in 2016??? Didn't know about that at
    all! Any idea where it's viewable?

    I saw in one of the Ansi art packs on the interwebs someone made
    some twin peaks stuff, I would really like to use them on the
    site, but they were posted in PNG not ANSI, and I don't know
    where to find them for realsies.

    I'll keep my eyes open for that! Best regards.



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Phoobar on Sat Mar 21 01:25:00 2020
    Phoobar wrote to mastermind <=-

    We knew, or should have known by the evidence, that this was a fucking pandemic...

    The last administration told the OPOS & its idiots this could
    happen...but they refused to listen.

    Really? You know this how...?

    Can you provide a reference/citation to back that up?

    This being the case the
    whole administration needs to face charges in The Hague of mass
    genocide for the US and the racists more than willing to kill anything/anyone.

    LOL! Are you serious? (Rhetorical, I know you are...). You have
    a serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sat Mar 21 18:02:00 2020
    On 03-20-20 17:36, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    the load on the hospitals manageable. Continue doing this until a
    vaccine is available (could be anything from 6 to 18 months). The
    cycles would be in the order of a few (2-3 I think) weeks tightened,

    Found this while doing some reading before going to work in about an
    hour:

    https://tinyurl.com/ua6866s

    Yes, I remember some of those events being reported in the media here (the ABC - abc.net.au is one of the most reputable mainstream media outlets, as it's our public broadcaster). And as I have said previously, we have some of the best medical research on the planet - an enviable reputation that Australia has had for decades. That's certainly going to help with this pandemic.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sat Mar 21 18:13:00 2020
    On 03-20-20 17:41, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Never going to happen...since anything I produce smells like anything but a virus/bacteria has crawled up there & having a party. ;D
    Or died weeks ago? ;P

    That's why I have fur & hide coming out my backside. You are a
    genius!!! ;D

    I'm not saying a word!!! :D


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Spectre on Sat Mar 21 03:57:25 2020
    It's from an orifice...so I just started going crazy & laughing at
    myself.
    A fundamental orrifice no less :) I reckon unless you're a nudist the chances are pretty low...

    Maybe one of these days...I can find out what notes they are & construct a major hit around those notes. Would name it Sympathy for the Fart! Am
    wondering how difficult it would be to do a new tune to lyrics like this...Please allow me to introduce myself...an orifice of wealth & taste...
    ;D

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Sat Mar 21 04:05:54 2020
    https://tinyurl.com/ua6866s
    Yes, I remember some of those events being reported in the media here
    (the ABC - abc.net.au is one of the most reputable mainstream media outlets, as it's our public broadcaster). And as I have said
    previously, we have some of the best medical research on the planet - an enviable reputation that Australia has had for decades. That's
    certainly going to help with this pandemic.

    One thing I am worried about with this pandemic is the OPOS not allowing it into the US with some lame excuse...but those with the funds will have no problem getting it...while the rest of us either die or suffer. Can see it forcing people into bidding wars to make sure idiots like it will always make something off the teaming masses.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Sat Mar 21 22:54:00 2020
    On 03-21-20 00:05, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    One thing I am worried about with this pandemic is the OPOS not
    allowing it into the US with some lame excuse...but those with the

    By "it", I assume you mean any vaccine or cure (grammar was ambiguous).

    funds will have no problem getting it...while the rest of us either die
    or suffer. Can see it forcing people into bidding wars to make sure
    idiots like it will always make something off the teaming masses.

    Time will tell. I certainly have more confidence in our healthcare system, which would foot a large part of the bill.


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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Phoobar on Sat Mar 21 16:09:05 2020
    On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 14:49:19 -0700
    "Phoobar -> Oli" <0@147.2.21> wrote:

    smells...but is it still as dangerous as a cough or a
    sneeze?
    If you can't smell the farts anymore that would be a sign of
    Covid-19.

    Never going to happen...since anything I produce smells like anything
    but a virus/bacteria has crawled up there & having a party. ;D

    One symptom (besides fever and dry cough an other stuff) is loss of smell and taste:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2020/03/20/theres-an-unexpected-loss-of- smell-and-taste-in-coronavirus-patients/
    short link: https://kutt.it/QZ2Cze

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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Vk3jed on Sat Mar 21 17:18:56 2020
    On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 09:49:00 +1100
    "Vk3jed -> Oli" <0@109.1.21> wrote:

    On 03-20-20 11:33, Oli wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The government here are looking at targeted lockdowns on an as
    needed basis, to deal with clusters of infections.

    until the whole USA will be on big cluster (and the biggest in
    the world).

    Hmm, doesn't really follow (I wasn't talking about the US).

    Right :). Too many messages too keep up, I was confused...

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Jimmy Anderson on Thu Mar 19 11:46:00 2020
    Jimmy Anderson wrote to Argos <=-

    We are in Indianapolis and there's talk of that here - I said that "shelter in place" sounds better than "martial law," but is there
    really any difference?

    It's more of a slippery slope.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Jimmy Anderson on Thu Mar 19 11:48:00 2020
    Jimmy Anderson wrote to Mastermind <=-

    better, and I feel like things are going to change in a social way...
    Just like airline travel changed after 9/11, I think this is going to change gatherings and how we respond to others that 'cough and sneeze.'

    If the "10x tech bro coming into work with a contagious disease because he's
    a rockstar coder" mentality changes, managers respect people working from
    home in order to keep the office healthy, and telecommuting is embraced by management, I'd be happy.


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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to Netsurge on Sat Mar 21 13:32:39 2020
    That's because the artist created it as a png, not an ansi image.

    That is what I was afraid of, and I haven't been able to locate a PNG -> ANSI converter.

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Mar 21 13:45:58 2020
    We are in Indianapolis and there's talk of that here - I said that "shelter in place" sounds better than "martial law," but is there really any difference?

    It's more of a slippery slope.

    Yes there is a difference. Shelter in place is a recommendation even a
    mandate for people to do themselves, martial law is enforced by military.

    You don't want martial law. Follow the guidelines :)

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Gamgee on Sun Mar 22 09:47:15 2020
    On 20 Mar 2020 at 09:25p, Gamgee pondered and said...

    Phoobar wrote to mastermind <=-

    We knew, or should have known by the evidence, that this was a fuckin pandemic...

    The last administration told the OPOS & its idiots this could happen...but they refused to listen.

    Really? You know this how...?

    Can you provide a reference/citation to back that up?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/pandemic-coronavirus-unite d-states-trump-cdc/608215/ https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warning-scenario-pa ndemic-132797 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-outbreak.html https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/contrary-to-trumps-claim-a-pandemic-was-widel y-expected-at-some-point/ https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/488763-intel-reports-going-back-to-januar y-warned-of-coronavirus-threat

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Mar 21 13:47:01 2020
    working from home in order to keep the office healthy, and telecommuting is embraced by management, I'd be happy.

    This is all just about finding the right manager and right job. I've been
    100% remote for 7+ years and 3 different jobs.

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  • From djatropine@21:1/157 to Embalmed on Sat Mar 21 17:01:13 2020
    We are in Indianapolis and there's talk of that here - I said th "shelter in place" sounds better than "martial law," but is ther really any difference?

    It's more of a slippery slope.

    Yes there is a difference. Shelter in place is a recommendation even a mandate for people to do themselves, martial law is enforced by military.


    I want to implement: Scener law. Ansi artists, demosceners, biohackers come
    up with solutions which do not require people to practice social distancing.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Mar 21 15:11:17 2020
    If the "10x tech bro coming into work with a contagious disease because he's a rockstar coder" mentality changes, managers respect people
    working from home in order to keep the office healthy, and telecommuting is embraced by management, I'd be happy.

    I have always hated the cavalier attitude of people clearly sick still coming into work and/or going to public places with a flippant attitude toward everyone around them. I look forward to a world where sick people on
    airplanes are forced to wear masks, where covering your mouth when you cough
    is expected to the point of someone being verbally scolded for failing to do so. I am thrilled that we may respect personal space a bit more than we do
    now.

    One bizarre thing I'm noticing is that introverts, like me, are doing rather well right now, but extroverts are stressed out and depressed. It also highlights how the world is built for extroverts, and now the other group is starting to understand what people like me deal with every day.

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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Embalmed on Sat Mar 21 19:16:51 2020

    This is all just about finding the right manager and right job. I've been 100% remote for 7+ years and 3 different jobs.

    If I ever decide to get a different job, it would be exactly that. 100% remote
    with zero travel.

    There are still some old school management types that just can't grasp the entire remote work plan. Slackers will slack at work or at home. The technology is there for many of us to do this now and make it the norm. I'm completely for it!

    My current job allows remote work but in my opinion it should be the norm. It should be rare to come in the office, but then we still have people that can't figure out how to use Teams, video, or even bridge calls.

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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Ryan on Sat Mar 21 19:33:59 2020

    One bizarre thing I'm noticing is that introverts, like me, are doing
    rather well right now, but extroverts are stressed out and depressed. It also highlights how the world is built for extroverts, and now the other group is starting to understand what people like me deal with every day.

    Noticing the same thing. Honestly if I never had to go to another in person meeting again, I'd be 100% fine with that. Not a problem for me to work 100% remote and not have face to face meetings. To me, that is better than the norm. The extroverts would disagree - but everyone is different.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to tenser on Sat Mar 21 21:15:00 2020
    tenser wrote to Gamgee <=-

    The last administration told the OPOS & its idiots this could happen...but they refused to listen.

    Can you provide a reference/citation to back that up?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/pandemic-coro navirus-unite
    d-states-trump-cdc/608215/ https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warnin g-scenario-pa
    ndemic-132797 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-o utbreak.html https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/contrary-to-trumps-claim-a-pande mic-was-widel
    y-expected-at-some-point/ https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/488763-intel-reports-going-b ack-to-januar
    y-warned-of-coronavirus-threat

    Yeah.... and every one of those stories has a political slant (to
    the left). They also mention that the same (in)action occurred in
    all the recent administrations. This is nothing really new, but
    it fits well into the agenda of folks infected with Trump
    Derangement Syndrome.


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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Ryan on Sat Mar 21 16:14:00 2020
    ryan wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    Oh I disagree... So far, no one has done anything WRONG. Yeah, overbuying toilet paper and food might be 'disruptive' in a sense, but it's panic buying. I think it will die down. Bringing out the NG to 'keep the peace' when people aren't doing anything illegal? Scary stuff...

    People are still going out of their houses to go shopping and doing whatever else they feel like doing. That's kind of wrong in a pandemic.

    See, now you're getting into martial law territory...




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Mastermind on Sat Mar 21 16:33:00 2020
    mastermind wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    We are in Indianapolis and there's talk of that here - I said that "shelter in place" sounds better than "martial law," but is there really any difference?

    yes; that first shelter in place order will not be enforced by law enforecement... they'll be waiting, but martial law is after that. i
    think it will become national shelter in place this weekend, followed
    by military intervention if the population doesnt adhere.

    3/19/2020

    M@STERMiND

    My point is that if people do abide with "shelter in place" just because
    the government said to (not because it's the smart thing to to) then it's
    JUST AS GOOD as martial law...

    I think this will be a test of what the government can get away with at
    the explanation of "for your own good." The Boston Marathan bombing,
    whether it was real or false flag, showed that Americans will roll over
    too illegal search...




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Mastermind on Sat Mar 21 16:34:00 2020
    mastermind wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    On 18 Mar 2020 at 01:12p, Jimmy Anderson pondered and said...

    Oli wrote to ryan <=-

    I also believe that you won't have more violence in the US, I think i i more likely that it goes down.

    Good point! Where I live, there are a lot of gun owners, so the 'gangs' would probably not come out here - too many good ole boys with shotguns and no objection to protecting mama!




    anyone that can help a law abiding citizen with any 9mm rounds; i literally could use a few cases & wont be getting any in this
    situation. help.

    good ole america will still have one day shipping, if anyone has extra stock. message me please.

    Wish I could help... My wife gave her 9mm to our oldest son and all
    the ammo too - then she bought anoter 9mm a few weeks ago and we
    bought SOME, but not much...




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Mastermind on Sat Mar 21 16:35:00 2020
    mastermind wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    This... I agree with this... I think it will get worse before it gets better, and I feel like things are going to change in a social way...
    Just like airline travel changed after 9/11, I think this is going to change gatherings and how we respond to others that 'cough and sneeze.'

    I'm also bothered by the almost matial law that's happening...

    i dont know whether to be afraid of it, or that we're better off with
    it; the only reason i say that is because of my fellow americans. we
    arent exaclty made from the same grain that we were 50 years ago....

    I don't agree with it...




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Ryan on Sat Mar 21 16:36:00 2020
    ryan wrote to mastermind <=-

    can you help a brother? i am in need of some 9mm standard; even a few cases would be awesome... funny thing is; in america we will still be running our 'essential amazon' deliveries; really, if you can help with 9mm...

    I got about 1k rounds of 45ACP with an additional five mags. I also got everything registered correctly with the stupid California State weapon registry site hehe

    So they know where to go and get it when 'they' need it more than you
    do?




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Ryan on Sat Mar 21 16:38:00 2020
    ryan wrote to mastermind <=-

    i cannot believe we're here.. i have faith, i think the gov is going to show up in a lot of ways; but i believe this is bigger than we're ready for. M@STERMiND

    Yeah, I agree. And I also don't think this is a 2 week problem. I think this is the beginning of the "new normal" that we'll experience for at least a few months. It's already feeling reminiscent of the immediate shocking lifestyle changes we had to make following 9/11.

    My thoughts exactly! My son tells me I'm wrong and this will 'blow over'
    and we'll get back to normal, but I don't think we'll ever see the old
    normal again...




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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Embalmed on Sun Mar 22 16:06:00 2020
    That is what I was afraid of, and I haven't been able to locate a PNG -> ANSI converter.

    You might be able to load it into PabloDraw and then just ask it to save an .ANS but its going to depend entirely on resolution as to how it comes out, or feed it into one the only converters.

    Spec


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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Gamgee on Sun Mar 22 19:11:59 2020
    Okay, just seems odd to me to not have an adequate supply,
    including self-defense type. You can probably get some easily
    enough online from places like Midway, AIM, Graffs, etc.

    currenty sold out; but always checking up...

    M@STERMiND

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Gamgee on Sun Mar 22 19:13:24 2020
    On 21 Mar 2020 at 05:15p, Gamgee pondered and said...

    Yeah.... and every one of those stories has a political slant (to
    the left). They also mention that the same (in)action occurred in
    all the recent administrations.

    So which is it: all of those articles is a leftist political
    hitjob against Trump, or they all say that all recent
    administrations (including Obama's) have done the same thing?

    This is nothing really new, but
    it fits well into the agenda of folks infected with Trump
    Derangement Syndrome.

    No, sorry, you're just wrong.

    The only "Trump Derangement Syndrome" that exists is people
    who delude themselves into believing that he's actually
    qualified.

    He's just advocated, on twitter, a drug combination that is
    known to lead to potentially fatal heart arrhythmia. He
    is peddling junk pseudoscience at this point, potentially
    putting people's lives in danger.

    Sorry, but it's time to stop making false equivalences and
    acknowledge that expertise matters, and Donald Trump isn't
    an expert.

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Embalmed on Sun Mar 22 19:17:36 2020
    I will leave it to the Canadians to give you more examples of how they
    are taking action, mostly I only have examples of America's inaction.

    Embalmed

    i keep thinking the our (american) goverment must be getting things HERE or fixing to SAY what they've already done... mainly, where the fuck are the
    TESTS and PPE for the first responders??

    heard about the 5G installations on schools? my ex wife is a teacher and she was told to vacate the school system completely and let them disinfect it all... and several schools across the nation are getting 5G big antenna installations.... they're talking about it being for surveilance and the tin foil hate guys think its for more... research china survelience covid-19.... theres some truth to the 'need' for it in response to COViD-19.

    its turning up, IMO. i HOPE im wrong.
    also, bill gates did an AMA on reddit about COViD-19. IMO, its a good read
    and the man is intelligent. also, notice how he mentions we'll soon have digital signature certificates for who's already recieved the vaccine.... hmmmmm, america....
    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Embalmed on Sun Mar 22 19:20:46 2020
    Don't know anyone with a reloader? I know a ton of people who make
    their own ammo and reuse their brass.

    point is, i dont have any 9mm or a way to get it on hand... so, i am hunting anywhere i can... ill be fine.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Embalmed on Sun Mar 22 19:23:11 2020
    On 20 Mar 2020 at 11:47a, Embalmed pondered and said...

    The government here are looking at targeted lockdowns on an as n basis, to deal with clusters of infections.

    How does that work when infected persons can go symptom free for week (if they show symptoms at all) yet are able to transmit the virus?

    Agreed, targetted lockdowns simply will be ineffective, everyone has to lockdown since there is no way to tell who is infected and who isn't.

    Embalmed
    -----------------------------------------------------

    i dont fully agree... i think how this will play out (one possibility)... is the huge cities who really have a less of a fighting chance at stopping community spread, will send/ship its severely sick to other areas that can handle the capacity... the smaller areas being quarantined, or slowing the virus as much as we can, will give those overflow areas a fighting chance at giving the care to those who need it... i think specific areas WILL play a
    role in slowing the COViD-19 outbreak... we need to control it in the areas that we can. control it EVERYWHERE that we possibly can. and i, as an
    american, will support this if i need to step up.


    ugh.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Oli on Sun Mar 22 16:07:00 2020
    On 03-21-20 13:18, Oli wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 09:49:00 +1100
    "Vk3jed -> Oli" <0@109.1.21> wrote:

    On 03-20-20 11:33, Oli wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    The government here are looking at targeted lockdowns on an as
    needed basis, to deal with clusters of infections.

    until the whole USA will be on big cluster (and the biggest in
    the world).

    Hmm, doesn't really follow (I wasn't talking about the US).

    Right :). Too many messages too keep up, I was confused...

    Easily done. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Embalmed on Sun Mar 22 16:48:00 2020
    On 03-21-20 09:47, Embalmed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    working from home in order to keep the office healthy, and telecommuting is embraced by management, I'd be happy.

    This is all just about finding the right manager and right job. I've
    been 100% remote for 7+ years and 3 different jobs.

    At one time, I worked in an "office" that had 4 people working at 3 separate locations. The closest (besides me) was nearly 100km from where I lived at the time, the other was 2500 km away in New Zealand, and it worked well. Lots of phone calls, which were mostly made over VoIP, before it was widely available outside enterprise settings. We were able to make effectively free calls, and also had VPN access between sites.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to ryan on Sun Mar 22 16:50:00 2020
    On 03-21-20 11:11, ryan wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    One bizarre thing I'm noticing is that introverts, like me, are doing rather well right now, but extroverts are stressed out and depressed.
    It also highlights how the world is built for extroverts, and now the other group is starting to understand what people like me deal with
    every day.

    This may lead to permanent cultural change, with a bit of luck. I'm an in between person, part introvert, part extrovert, and I tend to get hit a bit from both sides.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Weatherman on Sun Mar 22 16:53:00 2020
    On 03-21-20 15:16, Weatherman wrote to Embalmed <=-


    This is all just about finding the right manager and right job. I've been 100% remote for 7+ years and 3 different jobs.

    If I ever decide to get a different job, it would be exactly that.
    100% remote
    with zero travel.

    I have done that sort of work, 10+ years ago. It is very convenient, and I can be productive in a remote working environment, but I prefer to be more hands on, and future options are likely to be jobs that can't be done remotely. :)

    There are still some old school management types that just can't grasp
    the entire remote work plan. Slackers will slack at work or at home.
    The technology is there for many of us to do this now and make it the norm. I'm completely for it!

    I was doing it 100% over 10 years ago.

    My current job allows remote work but in my opinion it should be the
    norm. It should be rare to come in the office, but then we still have people that can't figure out how to use Teams, video, or even bridge calls.

    It depends on the industry and job, but sure, many jobs can now be done remotely, and should be. Modern communication tech can also make the remote aspect seamless to the outside world - you phone the main office, get transferred to someone's extension, who happens to be working from home, and the caller is none the wiser.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Weatherman on Sun Mar 22 16:56:00 2020
    On 03-21-20 15:33, Weatherman wrote to Ryan <=-

    Noticing the same thing. Honestly if I never had to go to another in person meeting again, I'd be 100% fine with that. Not a problem for me
    to work 100% remote and not have face to face meetings. To me, that is better than the norm. The extroverts would disagree - but everyone is different.

    For formal business meetings, I can go either way, but for those which have a more social aspect, I prefer face to face. However, a local radio club has been testing Zoom, and for me, that works well, especially in light of the alternative literally being nothing.


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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Phoobar on Sun Mar 22 19:27:32 2020
    citizens who are at risk... which is slowly beginning to prove to be much more than our aging population.

    Look at the idiots screwing around on the beaches of Florida & saying whatever happens happens. This being the case...this is as bad as some
    of the cases of HIV infected individuals infecting others. Maybe we
    start suing some of these brats & see if their attitudes change.

    i hate to say it, OR sending the military in to MAKE them stop. this is a
    hard situation, quickly makes me have to really consider changing what i
    think are my values and rights... stop the people who dont get it.

    i dont know about you, but MY part of the country is MORE busy than before
    the COViD-19 outbreak. i think my parking lots, and outside in general, has seen an UPTICK in traffic. the grocery stores are a literal festering MESS.

    im reasearching how to do shopping online/shipments... because the public
    isnt understanding nor acting on 'social distancing'.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to tenser on Sun Mar 22 02:08:00 2020
    tenser wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Yeah.... and every one of those stories has a political slant (to
    the left). They also mention that the same (in)action occurred in
    all the recent administrations.

    So which is it: all of those articles is a leftist political
    hitjob against Trump, or they all say that all recent
    administrations (including Obama's) have done the same thing?

    Well, it's both... They're all out to find a way to blame Trump,
    but grudgingly admit that none of the past administrations did
    anything about it, either. The take-away is that the USA sucks
    and it's because of Trump, written craftily to produce that
    effect.

    This is nothing really new, but it fits well into the agenda of
    folks infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    No, sorry, you're just wrong.

    We all have our opinions, eh?


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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to mastermind on Sun Mar 22 00:22:06 2020
    The problem is simply that it spreads without any symptoms, so you will never stop it without just stopping people interacting with each other. Plus
    people can be reinfected, so getting it once doesn't mean you are safe. It lives on surfaces for many days, even 4 hours on copper.

    Right now people in Washington state are driving out to rural areas to 'get away from it all', and most likely are bringing Covid with them.

    People are still hanging out on Alki Beach, standing next to each other to
    eat at the burger joint. And we have confirmed cases everywhere, and know
    that we have been in community transmission at least 6 weeks. People just don't seem to really care.

    Personally I'm not worried about getting it, I'm worried about transmitting
    it to people who are immunocompromised.

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to Vk3jed on Sun Mar 22 00:26:05 2020
    At one time, I worked in an "office" that had 4 people working at 3 separate locations. The closest (besides me) was nearly 100km from
    where I lived at the time, the other was 2500 km away in New Zealand,
    and it worked well. Lots of phone calls, which were mostly made over VoIP, before it was widely available outside enterprise settings. We
    were able to make effectively free calls, and also had VPN access
    between sites.

    Nice :) When I worked at a cloud provider we had a team in Dublin Ireland we worked with a lot, and I was the only team member for my team that worked in the office I did. So my other teammates were in other facilities and I was even hired over the phone, never met the boss until I started.

    Was a good job, and I only left because they went under.

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  • From djatropine@21:1/126 to Gamgee on Sun Mar 22 17:39:43 2020
    [V
    Yeah.... and every one of those stories has a political slant
    (to the left). They also mention that the same (in)action
    occurred in all the recent administrations.

    So which is it: all of those articles is a leftist political
    hitjob against Trump, or they all say that all recent
    administrations (including Obama's) have done the same thing?

    Well, it's both... They're all out to find a way to blame Trump,
    but grudgingly admit that none of the past administrations did
    anything about it, either. The take-away is that the USA sucks
    and it's because of Trump, written craftily to produce that
    effect.

    This is nothing really new, but it fits well into the agenda
    of folks infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    I'm infected with free market capitalism & free trade is the solution to everything syndrome. If the people who claim to hate trump wanted him
    out of office they would not be givng us another 4 yea rs of Trump by
    running candidates who I would not hire in a resturant.



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Embalmed on Sun Mar 22 22:26:00 2020
    On 03-21-20 20:26, Embalmed wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Nice :) When I worked at a cloud provider we had a team in Dublin
    Ireland we worked with a lot, and I was the only team member for my
    team that worked in the office I did. So my other teammates were in
    other facilities and I was even hired over the phone, never met the
    boss until I started.

    Cool, doesn't take much to get used to working that way.

    Was a good job, and I only left because they went under.

    Bummer. :(


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to mastermind on Sun Mar 22 22:40:00 2020
    On 03-22-20 15:27, mastermind wrote to Phoobar <=-

    i hate to say it, OR sending the military in to MAKE them stop. this is
    a hard situation, quickly makes me have to really consider changing
    what i think are my values and rights... stop the people who dont get
    it.

    Here, there were similar issues in Sydney, with Bondi beach having too many people on it. The authorities smartly closed the beach down, and they've closed at least 5 beaches around Sydney to prevent too many people from congregating together. There are powers in the various states of emergency that allow the safety measures to be legally enforced. There's also provisions for massive fines (and in some jurisdictions, jail time), if all else fails.

    They're about to shutdown all non essential services in some states here this week, and the western 2/3 of Australia have each closed their borders to protect vulnerable remote and indigenous communities.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Embalmed on Sun Mar 22 22:49:00 2020
    On 03-21-20 20:22, Embalmed wrote to mastermind <=-

    The problem is simply that it spreads without any symptoms, so you will never stop it without just stopping people interacting with each other.
    Plus people can be reinfected, so getting it once doesn't mean you are safe. It lives on surfaces for many days, even 4 hours on copper.

    Agree with all, except for the "people can be reinfected" part. Where's that documented? The scientific evidence shows that those who recover have antibodies that prevent reinfection (at least for a while).

    People are still hanging out on Alki Beach, standing next to each other
    to eat at the burger joint. And we have confirmed cases everywhere,
    and know that we have been in community transmission at least 6 weeks. People just don't seem to really care.

    The authorities in Australia are not hesitating to intervene in these situations by closing beaches and other unnecessary gatherings.

    Personally I'm not worried about getting it, I'm worried about transmitting it to people who are immunocompromised.

    I'm in the same boat as you. It's unlikely to seriously affect me, but I don't want to be responsible for passing it on. I still have things that I need to be able to do outside of home, but I make sure I avoid other people as much as I can.

    As of last Thursday there were no known cases in town, and there has been possibly one suspected since, but I'm not massuming anything, and am taking the necessary steps to stay safe.


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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Gamgee on Sun Mar 22 05:45:57 2020
    Well, it's both... They're all out to find a way to blame Trump,
    but grudgingly admit that none of the past administrations did
    anything about it, either. The take-away is that the USA sucks
    and it's because of Trump, written craftily to produce that
    effect.

    Eh...you know that a previous administration staffed a group at the CDC
    tasked with working on how our country would respond to this very issue, and Trump cut it by half in 2018, right?

    The USA doesn't suck. Some of us just hold it to a higher standard than it is right now.

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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Gamgee on Sun Mar 22 13:57:17 2020
    On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 22:08:00 -0500
    "Gamgee -> tenser" <0@138.2.21> wrote:

    This is nothing really new, but it fits well into the agenda of
    folks infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    No, sorry, you're just wrong.

    We all have our opinions, eh?

    Always the same boring responses from you guys. Viruses and biology doesn't care about opinions.

    If you have elected Trump, you are also responsible for the recent Trump pandemic and you are partly responsible for every single death that could have been prevented. He was a deranged incompetent psychopath before the election and he still is. It is no coincident that the US completely fucked it up.

    Jan 22: "We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine."
    Feb 2: "We pretty much shut it down coming in from China."
    Feb 12: "You know in April, supposedly [the virus] dies with the hotter weather."
    Feb 24: "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA ,,, Stock Market
    starting to look very good to me!"
    Feb 25: "CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus."
    Feb 25: "I think that's a problem that’s going to go away ... They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine."
    Feb 26: "The 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero." [There were 53 US cases of COVID-19 on Feb 26]
    Feb 26: "We're going very substantially down, not up."
    Feb 27: "One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear."
    Feb 28: "We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical."
    Feb 28: "This is their new hoax."
    Feb 28: "We're totally prepared."
    Mar 2: "You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?"
    Mar 2: "A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly."
    Mar 4: "If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better
    just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better."
    Mar 5: "I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work. "
    Mar 5: "The United States ... has, as of now, only 129 cases ... and 11 deaths.
    We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!"
    Mar 6: "I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down."
    Mar 6: "Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful ... the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This
    was not as perfect as that but pretty good."
    Mar 6: "I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it ... Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president."
    Mar 6: "I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't
    our fault."
    Mar 6: "I didn’t know people died from the flu." [his own grandfather died from the flu]
    Mar 8: "We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus."
    Mar 9: "This blindsided the world."
    Mar 13: "National emergency, two big words."
    Mar 15: "It's a very contagious virus, it's incredible, but it's something we have tremendous control of."
    Mar 16: "We've done a fantastic job from just about any standpoint."
    Mar 16: "We have a problem that, a month ago, nobody ever thought about." [about two months after he was first briefed on the epidemic]
    Mar 16: "I've been very strongly tested."
    Mar 17: "I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic."
    Mar 20: [What do you say to Americans who are scared?] "I say that you're a terrible reporter, that's what I say. I think that’s a very nasty question." Mar 20: "I’ve been right a lot"
    Mar 20: [When will everyone who needs a coronavirus test be able to get a test?] "No-one is talking about this except you, which doesn’t surprise me."

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to djatropine on Sun Mar 22 23:22:00 2020
    I'm infected with free market capitalism & free trade is the solution to everything syndrome. If the people who claim to hate trump wanted him out of office they would not be givng us another 4 yea rs of Trump by running candidates who I would not hire in a resturant.

    You have to remember those candidates such as they are, are a product of your political machine. People don't change fast, and poli's are no exception.. So to get a new style candidate will take a while

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Sun Mar 22 23:27:00 2020
    You see we're up to suspended services? Schools on early Hols next week.. all non essentials shut down.

    Spec


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Mon Mar 23 00:38:00 2020
    On 03-22-20 19:27, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    You see we're up to suspended services? Schools on early Hols next
    week.. all non essentials shut down.

    Yep. Grab the handbasket, we're on a downhill trip to that warm place. ;)


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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Vk3jed on Sun Mar 22 13:40:36 2020

    I have done that sort of work, 10+ years ago. It is very convenient, and I can be productive in a remote working environment, but I prefer to be more hands on, and future options are likely to be jobs that can't be done remotely. :)

    I prefer to be more hands on also. I would have gear shipped to my house for me to design/configure and then I would spend one day in the office getting it physically put in place. That way you still spend the vast majority of time in
    the home office and only go in for physical installs.

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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Vk3jed on Sun Mar 22 13:43:09 2020

    For formal business meetings, I can go either way, but for those which
    have a more social aspect, I prefer face to face. However, a local radio club has been testing Zoom, and for me, that works well, especially in
    light of the alternative literally being nothing.

    We use Zoom for conference call/video meetings at work, too. Also use Microsoft Teams which is more of a collaboration suite.

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Gamgee on Mon Mar 23 06:54:11 2020
    On 21 Mar 2020 at 10:08p, Gamgee pondered and said...

    tenser wrote to Gamgee <=-

    So which is it: all of those articles is a leftist political
    hitjob against Trump, or they all say that all recent
    administrations (including Obama's) have done the same thing?

    Well, it's both... They're all out to find a way to blame Trump,
    but grudgingly admit that none of the past administrations did
    anything about it, either. The take-away is that the USA sucks
    and it's because of Trump, written craftily to produce that
    effect.

    I think if one really loves one's country, one should be
    open to criticism of that country. I mean, I love my kids,
    I'd give my life for them, but it doesn't mean I let them
    run roughshod over everyone or I don't discipline them when
    necessary. Because I love my kids, I want them to be
    better behaved.

    But that's neither here nor there. I don't think those
    articles were trying to suggest that the USA sucks, and
    whether past administrations screwed up pandemic response
    or not isn't really all that relevant to _this_
    administration's response, which has been one blunder
    after another.

    Indeed, because I love my country, I want to see it do
    better. Step one here is admitting we have a problem at
    the top.

    This is nothing really new, but it fits well into the agenda of
    folks infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

    No, sorry, you're just wrong.

    We all have our opinions, eh?

    I don't think that arrangement of "agree to disagree"
    really holds water anymore. Trump is on twitter
    dispensing medical advice that will literally get
    people killed. He's not a doctor, and while I can
    not nor will I speak to his personal intelligence,
    he just shouldn't be doing that. There's a reason
    doctors go through years of training.

    When you've got a guy like Trump who's consistently
    contradicted by the experts, who consistently steps
    outside of his lane, who consistently tells falsehoods
    and lies, who consistently avoids taking responsibility,
    then you've got the wrong guy to lead us through this
    crisis.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to ryan on Sun Mar 22 12:57:00 2020
    ryan wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Well, it's both... They're all out to find a way to blame Trump,
    but grudgingly admit that none of the past administrations did
    anything about it, either. The take-away is that the USA sucks
    and it's because of Trump, written craftily to produce that
    effect.

    Eh...you know that a previous administration staffed a group at
    the CDC tasked with working on how our country would respond to
    this very issue, and Trump cut it by half in 2018, right?

    Yeah... Okay. Do you know that Obama's administration knew about
    all this too, and did nothing about it? Read here: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/pandemic-coronavirus-unite d-states-trump-cdc/608215/

    The USA doesn't suck. Some of us just hold it to a higher
    standard than it is right now.

    That's what some of us were saying from 2008-2017. See above
    article, all of that happened on Obama's watch. Where's the
    outrage? Holding a simulated "wargame" exercise literally a
    *WEEK* before Trump is inaugurated was supposed to help? The
    *ONLY* reason that was done was so that liberals would have
    something to point back to and say "See?! We warned them!".

    Gimme a freakin break.



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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Gamgee on Mon Mar 23 08:14:04 2020
    On 22 Mar 2020 at 08:57a, Gamgee pondered and said...

    Eh...you know that a previous administration staffed a group at
    the CDC tasked with working on how our country would respond to
    this very issue, and Trump cut it by half in 2018, right?

    Yeah... Okay. Do you know that Obama's administration knew about
    all this too, and did nothing about it? Read here: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/pandemic-coronavirus- d-states-trump-cdc/608215/

    Interesting article.

    "We were warned in 2017, a week before inauguration day,
    when Lisa Monaco, Barak Obama's outgoing homeland-security
    advisor, gathered with Donald Trump's incoming
    national-security officials and conducted an exercise
    modeled on the administration's experiences with outbreaks
    of swine flu, Ebola, and Zika. The simulation explored
    how the U.S. government should respond to a flu pandemic
    that halts international travel, upends global supply
    chains, tanks the stock market, and burdens health-care
    systems---all with a vaccine many months from
    materializing."

    A way to read this is that the outgoing administration
    handed Trump's team a fully-formed playbook on how to
    respond, based on hard-learned lessons and experience,
    and he had three years to build on that and expand on
    the previous administration's strategies. Instead, he
    decided to dismantle the infrastructure.

    The USA doesn't suck. Some of us just hold it to a higher
    standard than it is right now.

    That's what some of us were saying from 2008-2017. See above
    article, all of that happened on Obama's watch. Where's the
    outrage? Holding a simulated "wargame" exercise literally a
    *WEEK* before Trump is inaugurated was supposed to help? The
    *ONLY* reason that was done was so that liberals would have
    something to point back to and say "See?! We warned them!".

    Outrage about what, exactly? Obama's not president now.
    Trump is. And he has been for _three years_. Trump's
    supporters often like to remind the rest of us that he's
    our president. Yes, yes he is; so when do we hold him
    accountable for actually acting like a president and
    dealing with the crisis that's fallen on his lap?

    Did the previous administration screw up? Quite possibly.
    But your guy has had three years to address whatever
    failings he was left with by the previous guy. What'd
    he do during those years, aside from tweeting?

    Trump is failing miserably in response to this. Where
    are the tests? Where are the masks? Where's the PPE
    for the doctors, nurses, hospital workers, and first
    responders? Don't give me platitudes or deflect to
    Obama or blame the liberals: Trump is in charge now.
    What the hell is he doing? He lies on TV every day
    while the virus is spreading through the American
    population at a rate larger than it did in Italy. In
    the Bronx they're out of ventilators; in Brooklyn nurses
    are reusing masks and slathering them with hand
    sanitizer. Trump's advocating untested drug cocktails
    on Twitter that will actually kill people.

    Gimme a freakin break.

    I'm in the Boston area; nurses at MGH and Brigham and
    Women's hospitals, two of the TOP hospitals in the world,
    have taken to social media begging for masks from their
    friends. And people seriously want to turn around and
    blame Obama, who's been out of office for three years?

    Gimme a freakin break indeed.

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Weatherman on Mon Mar 23 09:33:39 2020
    My current job allows remote work but in my opinion it should be the
    norm. It should be rare to come in the office, but then we still have people that can't figure out how to use Teams, video, or even bridge calls.

    i agree with you... since im not in a position that offers work at home, i havent used any of the tools that are out there now. SLACK, RIOT, ETC...

    wonder if theres a way to get into using SLACK, without having a work team to use it with... i wanna get up to speed on slack.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Jimmy Anderson on Mon Mar 23 09:38:15 2020
    On 21 Mar 2020 at 12:14p, Jimmy Anderson pondered and said...

    ryan wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    Oh I disagree... So far, no one has done anything WRONG. Yeah, overbu toilet paper and food might be 'disruptive' in a sense, but it's pani buying. I think it will die down. Bringing out the NG to 'keep the pe when people aren't doing anything illegal? Scary stuff...

    People are still going out of their houses to go shopping and doing whatever else they feel like doing. That's kind of wrong in a pandemi

    See, now you're getting into martial law territory...




    i hate to say it, but i think martial law in america is coming.

    i HOPE im wrong; i HOPE that im not forced to choose which is better for our communities. at the current, with all of the idiot sheeple not giving this
    the attention it needs, i almost would support.. jesus thats hard to say.
    but, i tihnk we need people to hunker down SO MUCH MORE THAN NOW - that id almost support military intervention. we need to act. now.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Jimmy Anderson on Mon Mar 23 09:43:40 2020
    My point is that if people do abide with "shelter in place" just because the government said to (not because it's the smart thing to to) then it's JUST AS GOOD as martial law...

    I think this will be a test of what the government can get away with at the explanation of "for your own good." The Boston Marathan bombing, whether it was real or false flag, showed that Americans will roll over too illegal search...

    so im with you... many in my community are with you; im at home this weekend,
    i had to go grocery shopping but am now figuring out delivery options... but
    a lot of folks ARENT doing so. i think that the sheeple are going to cause a bunch of issues for those of us that are heeding to the COViD-19 threat. a
    lot of folks ARENT heeding... at all.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Jimmy Anderson on Mon Mar 23 09:45:45 2020
    Wish I could help... My wife gave her 9mm to our oldest son and all
    the ammo too - then she bought anoter 9mm a few weeks ago and we
    bought SOME, but not much...

    i understand - everywhere local is sold out; and online too, mostly; you can order bulk 1000rounds from some places, but i dont have the hundreds of
    dollars extra right now to doso. :/

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Jimmy Anderson on Mon Mar 23 09:49:05 2020
    [THE CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT MARTIAL LAW...]
    I don't agree with it...

    fundementally, i do not either. at all. in fact, its something that i felt strongly about... the issue i have is that from what im seeing, the majority
    of people - or at least whats visible to ME - is that us as a whole are not abiding by shelter in place suggestions... fundementally, martial law is anti-american.. its the last thing id ever want to have - its the last
    option.

    im worried that sometime soon, we will have to make a choice whether to allow america to go down this COViD-19 road allowing the idiots of society to fuck
    it up for the rest of us; or, placing safegaurds that yesterday were
    completely off the table for many of us. hell, if we let it get crazy out of control were going to NEED societal intervention. its very scary...

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Jimmy Anderson on Mon Mar 23 09:50:09 2020
    My thoughts exactly! My son tells me I'm wrong and this will 'blow over' and we'll get back to normal, but I don't think we'll ever see the old normal again...

    i sincerely hope that youre wrong.

    this absolutely could be a new beginning for the world, tho.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to Vk3jed on Sun Mar 22 13:55:17 2020
    Agree with all, except for the "people can be reinfected" part. Where's that documented? The scientific evidence shows that those who recover have antibodies that prevent reinfection (at least for a while).
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/15/can-you-get-infected-by-corona virus-twice-how-does-covid-19-immunity-work/#7246ecce5c0f

    That one article says 14% reinfection rate in Guangdong

    Hard to trust anything that comes out of China's media but there are a few articles here and there, mostly that say 'We don't know for sure, but there
    are some reports of reinfection'

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Embalmed on Mon Mar 23 09:57:47 2020
    On 21 Mar 2020 at 08:22p, Embalmed pondered and said...

    The problem is simply that it spreads without any symptoms, so you will never stop it without just stopping people interacting with each other. Plus people can be reinfected, so getting it once doesn't mean you are safe. It lives on surfaces for many days, even 4 hours on copper.

    Right now people in Washington state are driving out to rural areas to 'get away from it all', and most likely are bringing Covid with them.

    People are still hanging out on Alki Beach, standing next to each other
    to eat at the burger joint. And we have confirmed cases everywhere, and know that we have been in community transmission at least 6 weeks.
    People just don't seem to really care.

    Personally I'm not worried about getting it, I'm worried about transmitting it to people who are immunocompromised.

    Embalmed

    i agree with you fully; i believe were deeper down the rabbit hole, specifically in america, than most of the country believes.

    one thing tho, the more and more info we have about COViD-19, the less 'safe' the virus seems to be. im 40 years old, with no health conditions - at the onset of this, i thought i was totally in the clear and now... not totally so much. the information coming out is showing that the age group affected is wider than thought; while the statistics say that ill be OK... the risk is still there. 20% isnt 'safe' IMO.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Mon Mar 23 10:02:14 2020
    Agree with all, except for the "people can be reinfected" part. Where's that documented? The scientific evidence shows that those who recover have antibodies that prevent reinfection (at least for a while).

    we do need info on this... ive heard everything from the people are getting infected and then reinfected bit... to after getting COViD-19 your immune for
    a year, to everything in between...

    with the other coronaviruses, it has been said theres a 1-2 month immunity timeframe; i dont think we KNOW yet...

    M@STERMiND

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to Weatherman on Sun Mar 22 14:04:13 2020
    hands on, and future options are likely to be jobs that can't be done remotely. :)

    I mean, cloud is cloud, try and be physically present to work on stuff in AWS ;) As a Systems guy I saw the writing on the wall 10 years ago with the
    death of most data centers and mass migration to cloud. I pivoted in my
    career and took my systems and programming skills to cloud land, and I highly doubt cloud providers are going anywhere anytime soon. But if they do, I'll pivot again ;)

    (is it really even a pivot or just an evolution.. hmmm..)

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to mastermind on Sun Mar 22 14:10:00 2020
    group affected is wider than thought; while the statistics say that ill
    be OK... the risk is still there. 20% isnt 'safe' IMO.

    Last I saw the stat was 8% were fatal, and those were in people who had underlying conditions already.

    Have you seen this infection rate chart? https://twitter.com/peaceisactive/status/1241169100891717632?s=19

    Japan has such a flat rate of infection because they listen to their leaders and do what they are told.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Mon Mar 23 08:42:00 2020
    Here, there were similar issues in Sydney, with Bondi beach having too many people on it. The authorities smartly closed the beach down,
    and they've closed at least 5 beaches around Sydney to prevent
    too many people from congregating together. There are powers in the various states of emergency that allow the safety measures to be
    legally enforced. There's also provisions for massive fines (and
    in some jurisdictions, jail time), if all else fails.

    Worst part about Bondage Beach was they have confirmed cases in backpackers who'd been to the beach. And strangely enough there's an infection spike going on there too. So everyone that was there has to be at least a highly possible carrier... :( Morons...

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to mastermind on Mon Mar 23 10:33:00 2020
    i understand - everywhere local is sold out; and online too, mostly; you can order bulk 1000rounds from some places, but i dont have the
    hundreds of dollars extra right now to doso. :/

    How many $ are you talking about? If you ordered them now would you still get them?

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Embalmed on Mon Mar 23 10:39:00 2020
    Hard to trust anything that comes out of China's media but there are a few articles here and there, mostly that say 'We don't know for sure, but there are some reports of reinfection'

    Given the fact the virus isn't just a stable thing are there are already variants, its probably safe to say you could be reinfected but a different strain. On the other hand your immune system is still probably in a better place to deal with it as it will have a lot of similarities to the first time round.

    Spec


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to tenser on Sun Mar 22 16:02:00 2020
    tenser wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Indeed, because I love my country, I want to see it do
    better. Step one here is admitting we have a problem at
    the top.

    Well said.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to mastermind on Sun Mar 22 16:06:00 2020
    mastermind wrote to Weatherman <=-

    wonder if theres a way to get into using SLACK, without having a work
    team to use it with... i wanna get up to speed on slack.

    I have a long-term mailing list (Just a bunch of guys...) that just moved to Slack. You can set up a free tier account, invite some friends, and play
    with it.




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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to tenser on Sun Mar 22 23:10:00 2020
    tenser wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Eh...you know that a previous administration staffed a group at
    the CDC tasked with working on how our country would respond to
    this very issue, and Trump cut it by half in 2018, right?

    Yeah... Okay. Do you know that Obama's administration knew about
    all this too, and did nothing about it? Read here: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/pandemic-coronavirus- d-states-trump-cdc/608215/

    Interesting article.

    "We were warned in 2017, a week before inauguration day,
    when Lisa Monaco, Barak Obama's outgoing homeland-security
    advisor, gathered with Donald Trump's incoming
    national-security officials and conducted an exercise
    modeled on the administration's experiences with outbreaks
    of swine flu, Ebola, and Zika. The simulation explored
    how the U.S. government should respond to a flu pandemic
    that halts international travel, upends global supply
    chains, tanks the stock market, and burdens health-care
    systems---all with a vaccine many months from
    materializing."

    A way to read this is that the outgoing administration
    handed Trump's team a fully-formed playbook on how to
    respond, based on hard-learned lessons and experience,
    and he had three years to build on that and expand on
    the previous administration's strategies. Instead, he
    decided to dismantle the infrastructure.

    Yeah that may be one way to read it.

    Another way to read it is what the TWO PARAGRAPHS above the one
    you quoted (in the original article) said. Funny how you missed
    that, isn't it?

    Those paragraphs say that "we were warned" in 2012 *AND* 2015 that
    this kind of thing could happen. Who was President then??? Why
    was nothing done? You love to say that Trump has had three years
    to prepare... What did Obama do for those *FIVE* years on this
    subject...?

    Oh, and who was President during the Ebola and MERS outbreaks...
    That's right. What did he do about all that? Right again.
    Nothing.

    The USA doesn't suck. Some of us just hold it to a higher
    standard than it is right now.

    That's what some of us were saying from 2008-2017. See above
    article, all of that happened on Obama's watch. Where's the
    outrage? Holding a simulated "wargame" exercise literally a
    *WEEK* before Trump is inaugurated was supposed to help? The
    *ONLY* reason that was done was so that liberals would have
    something to point back to and say "See?! We warned them!".

    Outrage about what, exactly? Obama's not president now.

    I explained that above. The outrage about Obama's INACTION during
    MULTIPLE serious disease outbreaks, all of which were *FAR* more
    deadly than this current one. Why didn't Obama put into place all
    these measures that you lefties now blame Trump for not doing?

    Did the previous administration screw up? Quite possibly.
    But your guy has had three years to address whatever
    failings he was left with by the previous guy. What'd
    he do during those years, aside from tweeting?

    Again, see above. Obama had *LONGER* than three years, and
    MULTIPLE outbreaks, and did nothing. What did he do during those
    years, besides force government-mandated "healthcare" down the
    throats of Americans who didn't want it?

    Trump is failing miserably in response to this.

    Perhaps he is. Just like his predecessor.

    Where
    are the tests? Where are the masks? Where's the PPE
    for the doctors, nurses, hospital workers, and first
    responders? Don't give me platitudes or deflect to
    Obama or blame the liberals: Trump is in charge now.

    You'll have to ask the Obama administration where all those things
    are. It's not "deflecting", either, to say that. Just asking the
    same questions you are.

    I'm in the Boston area; nurses at MGH and Brigham and
    Women's hospitals, two of the TOP hospitals in the world,
    have taken to social media begging for masks from their
    friends. And people seriously want to turn around and
    blame Obama, who's been out of office for three years?

    I'm not "blaming" Obama. I'm asking you why it's fair to blame
    Trump for the EXACT same things that Obama did. None of you got
    upset with him then. Why now?

    This is where you can tell me that all the hate and outrage isn't "political"...



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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Gamgee on Mon Mar 23 18:38:46 2020
    On 22 Mar 2020 at 07:10p, Gamgee pondered and said...

    Yeah that may be one way to read it.

    Indeed.

    Another way to read it is what the TWO PARAGRAPHS above the one
    you quoted (in the original article) said. Funny how you missed
    that, isn't it?

    I didn't miss it. I read it. You misinterpreted it.

    Those paragraphs say that "we were warned" in 2012 *AND* 2015 that
    this kind of thing could happen. Who was President then??? Why
    was nothing done? You love to say that Trump has had three years
    to prepare... What did Obama do for those *FIVE* years on this subject...?

    He put into place an office on the NSC to deal
    with a pandemic. He dealt with the Zika and
    Ebola pandemics. They worked the CDC, partnered
    with WHO. Apparently, he took it seriously
    enough that his people ran exercises with the
    Trump people as they came into office. Sounds
    like he did a lot, actually.

    You are mistaking being _warned_ with _failing
    to act on that warning_. There is evidence of
    the warning, but no where in that article is
    there evidence that the warnings weren't taken
    seriously. Indeed, there's evidence that the
    opposite happened.

    And yeah. Trump had _three years_ to prepare.
    What did HE do?

    Like I said earlier, Obama isn't president:
    Trump is. But Trump has utterly failed to lead.

    Oh, and who was President during the Ebola and MERS outbreaks...
    That's right. What did he do about all that? Right again.
    Nothing.

    Funny, I don't remember the country shutting down
    over either of those. I don't remember my kids'
    schools getting shut down; I don't remember talk
    of a $1T (T!) bailout during those pandemics. Seems
    like someone must have done something right....

    This has been debunked over and over and over
    again. But it's also irrelevant.

    But again, why won't you confront the problem
    facing us now, preferring instead to fall back
    onto right-wing talking points: Obama isn't
    president. Trump is our president. Why is he
    failing so utterly, and why won't you guys who
    support him hold him to account?

    I explained that above. The outrage about Obama's INACTION during MULTIPLE serious disease outbreaks, all of which were *FAR* more
    deadly than this current one. Why didn't Obama put into place all
    these measures that you lefties now blame Trump for not doing?

    If those were far more deadly, why didn't society shut
    down for them? Talk to me in 60 days about what's more
    deadly.

    Even if that were true, which it's not (seriously:
    it's been debunked over and over and over), Trump
    had three years to "repair" whatever Obama messed
    up. But he hasn't done that; instead, he's done the
    opposite. Obama's not president: he's not in charge
    of handling this crisis. If he were, and he were
    doing as badly as Trump is doing now, I'd be saying
    the same about him.

    But Trump is our president. We live in a democracy
    and we value freedom to criticize our government
    when it doesn't live up to our expectations; we
    also value the freedom to hold our elected leaders
    accountable for their failures. Trump is failing
    our people, and people are dying. Our fellow
    citizens are dying. And Trump's base is failing to
    hold him accountable.

    We just surpassed Spain to have the third highest
    number of COVID-19 cases (over 33,000 now). Per
    capita, we have more than China did (we have <1/4
    the population, but >1/3 -- almost 1/2! -- the
    cases they had in Wuhan)!

    This is unacceptable. When I was in the military,
    I learned that when we fail this badly, it's the
    leadership that is at fault. Trump is the leader.

    Did the previous administration screw up? Quite possibly.
    But your guy has had three years to address whatever
    failings he was left with by the previous guy. What'd
    he do during those years, aside from tweeting?

    Again, see above. Obama had *LONGER* than three years, and
    MULTIPLE outbreaks, and did nothing. What did he do during those
    years, besides force government-mandated "healthcare" down the
    throats of Americans who didn't want it?

    And again, even if all of that were true, but it's
    not, it doesn't matter. Obama isn't the president.

    Trump is letting Americans die: YOUR fellow citizens
    are dying. Our leadership has failed and continues
    to fail. WHY won't you hold them accountable?

    Perhaps he is. Just like his predecessor.

    Debunked.

    But it doesn't matter. He's the guy in charge now.

    Who CARES about his predecessor? He had ample time
    to get ready, instead he did the opposite.

    Where
    are the tests? Where are the masks? Where's the PPE
    for the doctors, nurses, hospital workers, and first
    responders? Don't give me platitudes or deflect to
    Obama or blame the liberals: Trump is in charge now.

    You'll have to ask the Obama administration where all those things
    are.

    What?

    Why would I "ask the Obama administration where all
    those things are"? Obama's been out of office for
    _three years_. This is Trump's job now, not Obama's.
    Trump's administration, and Trump's alone, is
    responsible for handling this.

    It's not "deflecting", either, to say that. Just asking the
    same questions you are.

    Let me get this straight. You're proposing that I
    ignore the current administration, that's been in
    place for three years now, and instead ask the
    previous guy's administration why we as a country
    are failing at dealing with a pandemic that started
    in December?

    How does that possibly make sense to you?

    I'm not "blaming" Obama.

    You just said to go ask the Obama administration
    about the PPE for the current pandemic, which started
    under and is failing under Trump's lack of leadership.
    That's the dictionary definition of blaming Obama.

    I'm asking you why it's fair to blame
    Trump for the EXACT same things that Obama did. None of you got
    upset with him then. Why now?

    As I've said before, it's not the same things Obama did.
    Compare the timeline for the H1N1 pandemic under Obama:

    Apr 15, 2009: First H1N1 infection in the US
    Apr 21, 2009: Work on the H1N1 vaccine starts
    Apr 22, 2009: NIMS activated to coordinate
    Apr 23, 2009: Two mroe H1N1 infections identified
    Apr 24, 2009: H1N1 genome sequencing complete
    Apr 25, 2009: WHO declares a public health emergency
    Apr 26, 2009: US government declares a a public health
    emergency, starts releasing strategic national
    stockpike of PPE, anti-prials, etc. 59.5 million
    M95 masks release over the course of the pandemic
    Apr 27, 2009: CDC urges social distancing for symptomatic patients
    (Note: that's *12 days* after the first infection in the US)
    Apr 28, 2009: rt-PCR H1N1 test cleared for use by FDA
    May 01, 2009: CDC beings shipments of tests. 1,000,000
    shipped by September.
    May 06, 2009: CDC issues recommendations for testing,
    prophylaxis and treatment of H1N1
    May 18, 2009: 40 states capable of H1N1 testing without CDC
    support
    Jun 11, 2009: WHO declares H1N1 a pandemic
    (Note: US has been managing it aggressively for almost
    two months at this point)
    Jul 22, 2009: Clinical trials of H1N1 vaccine begin
    Sep 15, 2009: FDA approves four H1N1 vaccines
    Oct 05, 2009: First H1N1 vaccines administered to at-risk patients
    Oct 09, 2009: All 50 states have ordered vaccines
    Dec 31, 2009: Vaccine supply no longer limited; large-scale
    vaccine available regardless of risk profile

    I think that Americans are dying RIGHT NOW. I think
    that American leadership is failing in the rest of the
    world, also RIGHT NOW. Trump is America's president
    RIGHT NOW. Therefore, yes, I'm holding Trump accountable
    for our failings RIGHT NOW. I don't care what Obama did
    or did not do during his administration: this is Trump's
    administration, and it's failing.

    But if YOU want to compare, then compare the Obama
    administration's response to H1N1 to the disaster we're
    seeing unfolding before our very eyes.

    This is where you can tell me that all the hate and outrage isn't "political"...

    The only hatred and outrage I see is coming from the
    Trump camp, and it's hatred towards our country and our
    citizens, and outrage that the "god-emperor" has been
    shown not to be wearing any clothes.

    That's really sad.

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Spectre on Mon Mar 23 19:30:53 2020
    How many $ are you talking about? If you ordered them now would you
    still get them?

    Spec

    i saw bulk availability for $550 and $800; and it would be a stretch to think
    i ever needed that much ammo anyway, but thats all i could find to actually order. :/

    its ok... someone somewhere will have a few cases that they dont need to hold onto. also, im not like a 1st wave revolter - im sure by the time i need it
    ill have found SOME type of ammo. :P

    thanks for asking.... maybe someone will be able to help, is all.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to tenser on Mon Mar 23 02:16:00 2020
    tenser wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Yeah that may be one way to read it.

    Indeed.

    Another way to read it is what the TWO PARAGRAPHS above the one
    you quoted (in the original article) said. Funny how you missed
    that, isn't it?

    I didn't miss it. I read it. You misinterpreted it.

    Yeah, that's what I thought you'd say.

    We're done here.

    <SNIP drivel>



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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Vk3jed on Mon Mar 23 02:52:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to mastermind <=-

    people from congregating together. There are powers in the various
    states of emergency that allow the safety measures to be legally
    enforced. There's also provisions for massive fines (and in some jurisdictions, jail time), if all else fails.

    Hope they have enough jail space to allow no more than 10 people
    in a cell. :-)




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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Mastermind on Mon Mar 23 03:04:00 2020
    mastermind wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    My point is that if people do abide with "shelter in place" just because the government said to (not because it's the smart thing to to) then it's JUST AS GOOD as martial law...

    I think this will be a test of what the government can get away with at the explanation of "for your own good." The Boston Marathan bombing, whether it was real or false flag, showed that Americans will roll over too illegal search...

    so im with you... many in my community are with you; im at home this weekend, i had to go grocery shopping but am now figuring out delivery options... but a lot of folks ARENT doing so. i think that the sheeple are going to cause a bunch of issues for those of us that are heeding
    to the COViD-19 threat. a lot of folks ARENT heeding... at all.

    I agree - and Tennessee's governor put an executive order in place that
    covers the state until April 6 (of course that could change). We are
    currently out of state but headed back home tomorrow...



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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Mastermind on Mon Mar 23 03:05:00 2020
    mastermind wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    [THE CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT MARTIAL LAW...]
    I don't agree with it...

    fundementally, i do not either. at all. in fact, its something that i
    felt strongly about... the issue i have is that from what im seeing,
    the majority of people - or at least whats visible to ME - is that us
    as a whole are not abiding by shelter in place suggestions... fundementally, martial law is anti-american.. its the last thing id
    ever want to have - its the last option.

    im worried that sometime soon, we will have to make a choice whether to allow america to go down this COViD-19 road allowing the idiots of
    society to fuck it up for the rest of us; or, placing safegaurds that yesterday were completely off the table for many of us. hell, if we let
    it get crazy out of control were going to NEED societal intervention.
    its very scary...

    Yeah - the pandemic is scary enough, but the loss of rights and the
    military stepping in scares me even more...

    A friend of mine today said, "it's hard to have an uprising when you
    can't get more than 10 people together..."





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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Embalmed on Mon Mar 23 03:11:00 2020
    Embalmed wrote to Weatherman <=-

    hands on, and future options are likely to be jobs that can't be done remotely. :)

    I mean, cloud is cloud, try and be physically present to work on stuff
    in AWS ;) As a Systems guy I saw the writing on the wall 10 years ago with the death of most data centers and mass migration to cloud. I pivoted in my career and took my systems and programming skills to
    cloud land, and I highly doubt cloud providers are going anywhere
    anytime soon. But if they do, I'll pivot again ;)

    (is it really even a pivot or just an evolution.. hmmm..)

    I started moving to cloud based solutions for work (local school
    system) YEARS ago! We are even a GAFE school (that's what Google used
    to call it - Google Apps for Education) so hopefully that will help
    with the shutdown of school til at least the end of the month.




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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Weatherman on Mon Mar 23 20:10:00 2020
    On 03-22-20 09:40, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-


    I have done that sort of work, 10+ years ago. It is very convenient, and I can be productive in a remote working environment, but I prefer to be more hands on, and future options are likely to be jobs that can't be done remotely. :)

    I prefer to be more hands on also. I would have gear shipped to my
    house for me to design/configure and then I would spend one day in the office getting it physically put in place. That way you still spend
    the vast majority of time in
    the home office and only go in for physical installs.

    That works too, and in these COVID-19 days, it's a way to minimise exposure risk.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Weatherman on Mon Mar 23 20:11:00 2020
    On 03-22-20 09:43, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    We use Zoom for conference call/video meetings at work, too. Also use Microsoft Teams which is more of a collaboration suite.

    Zoom is pretty good.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Mon Mar 23 20:20:00 2020
    On 03-23-20 04:42, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Worst part about Bondage Beach was they have confirmed cases in backpackers who'd been to the beach. And strangely enough there's an infection spike going on there too. So everyone that was there has to
    be at least a highly possible carrier... :( Morons...

    That was a major screwup, and also the people congregating in pubs and clubs. The state government made the right call in my opinion.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Jimmy Anderson on Mon Mar 23 20:22:00 2020
    On 03-22-20 22:52, Jimmy Anderson wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Vk3jed wrote to mastermind <=-

    people from congregating together. There are powers in the various
    states of emergency that allow the safety measures to be legally
    enforced. There's also provisions for massive fines (and in some jurisdictions, jail time), if all else fails.

    Hope they have enough jail space to allow no more than 10 people
    in a cell. :-)

    Good point. But now there's plenty of empty hotel rooms they could use. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to mastermind on Mon Mar 23 20:33:00 2020
    On 03-23-20 05:33, mastermind wrote to Weatherman <=-

    wonder if theres a way to get into using SLACK, without having a work
    team to use it with... i wanna get up to speed on slack.

    You just need to find a group of people willing to use it. Ideally with a common cause, though you could use Slack like a private IRC channel.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Mon Mar 23 03:35:02 2020
    allowing it into the US with some lame excuse...but those with the
    By "it", I assume you mean any vaccine or cure (grammar was ambiguous).

    Yep. I also use "it" when talking about that OPOS...since it can't be human being this stupid/inhumane.

    or suffer. Can see it forcing people into bidding wars to make sure idiots like it will always make something off the teaming masses.
    Time will tell. I certainly have more confidence in our healthcare system, which would foot a large part of the bill.

    This is America. The ones who keep screwing us over will do everything they
    can do to force those like myself hand over as much as they can to keep
    making their money.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Oli on Mon Mar 23 04:02:16 2020
    If you can't smell the farts anymore that would be a sign of
    Covid-19.
    Never going to happen...since anything I produce smells like anything but a virus/bacteria has crawled up there & having a party. ;D
    One symptom (besides fever and dry cough an other stuff) is loss of
    smell and taste:

    Not happened yet. With the power I can shoot 'em out...I can not only smell them...but the taste is something I usually try to find something bitter to
    get that taste out of my mouth. ;)

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to mastermind on Mon Mar 23 04:36:36 2020
    i hate to say it, OR sending the military in to MAKE them stop. this is a hard situation, quickly makes me have to really consider changing what i think are my values and rights... stop the people who dont get it.

    With something this deadly...there are plenty of military bases where they
    can be put for a while to cry about how they only care about themselves.

    i dont know about you, but MY part of the country is MORE busy than
    before the COViD-19 outbreak. i think my parking lots, and outside in general, has seen an UPTICK in traffic. the grocery stores are a literal festering MESS.

    Oh yeah. The totals over the past several days has been around double of what is normal. People are so terrified they won't be able to get their toys & such...so they have to do it now. The worst part is many of these same folks spending so freely may not have jobs to go back to. Brings up the old saying
    a fool & his money are soon parted. In this case...these fools will lose
    their homes & everything they stole/worked for with just the banks being the ones who are laughing.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to tenser on Mon Mar 23 04:47:20 2020
    Like I said earlier, Obama isn't president:
    Trump is. But Trump has utterly failed to lead.

    You should just save your breath (or typing effort). The conservative tribe rejects intellectual honesty at every turn. It's easier to say "..but
    Hillary! But Obama!" than admit being on the wrong side of history in every decision in the past 40 years.

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Vk3jed on Mon Mar 23 04:50:45 2020
    Zoom is pretty good.

    I find Zoom (vs WebEx, vs Teams, vs Slack Video) optimizes so much on video quality that when you have poor connectivity at any given time for any
    reason, audio quality suffers most. I prefer alternatives due to that; if something's going to degrade, let it be video, but keep audio as-is.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to ryan on Mon Mar 23 05:06:17 2020
    tribe rejects intellectual honesty at every turn. It's easier to say "..but Hillary! But Obama!" than admit being on the wrong side of
    history in every decision in the past 40 years.

    The sad part is that that 40 years has been my complete adult lifetime.
    Because these bastards decided it was better to screw those like myself to
    make themselves rich...deciding to head back to the 1950's with the white picket fence with 2 or so kids isn't going to happen. What would our lives
    have been if the decent jobs had been there...been able to keep our relationships together because of these jobs being able to allow us to
    support said family? I never had kids...was married for 2 years 30 years ago. What if I had had kids/grandkids...pension to live in comfort in my
    retirement & been able to give this to my offspring a better life than even I would've had?

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Tue Mar 24 00:26:00 2020
    On 03-22-20 23:35, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    allowing it into the US with some lame excuse...but those with the
    By "it", I assume you mean any vaccine or cure (grammar was ambiguous).

    Yep. I also use "it" when talking about that OPOS...since it can't be human being this stupid/inhumane.

    Haha OK. Well we straightened that one out anyway. :)

    This is America. The ones who keep screwing us over will do everything they can do to force those like myself hand over as much as they can to keep making their money.

    Yeah. that would suck. :(


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to ryan on Tue Mar 24 00:33:00 2020
    On 03-23-20 00:50, ryan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Zoom is pretty good.

    I find Zoom (vs WebEx, vs Teams, vs Slack Video) optimizes so much on video quality that when you have poor connectivity at any given time
    for any reason, audio quality suffers most. I prefer alternatives due
    to that; if something's going to degrade, let it be video, but keep
    audio as-is.

    You can always turn off video, which can improve things dramatically on marginal connections.


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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Gamgee on Tue Mar 24 05:13:30 2020
    On 22 Mar 2020 at 10:16p, Gamgee pondered and said...

    tenser wrote to Gamgee <=-
    Another way to read it is what the TWO PARAGRAPHS above the one
    you quoted (in the original article) said. Funny how you missed that, isn't it?

    I didn't miss it. I read it. You misinterpreted it.

    Yeah, that's what I thought you'd say.

    We're done here.

    And meanwhile, people die.

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to ryan on Tue Mar 24 05:22:19 2020
    On 23 Mar 2020 at 12:47a, ryan pondered and said...

    Like I said earlier, Obama isn't president:
    Trump is. But Trump has utterly failed to lead.

    You should just save your breath (or typing effort). The conservative tribe rejects intellectual honesty at every turn. It's easier to say "..but Hillary! But Obama!" than admit being on the wrong side of
    history in every decision in the past 40 years.

    Thanks, you're right. The continual rejection of
    facts is what gets to me, especially now, when we're
    in such a shit sandwich because people couldn't take
    their blinders off long enough to see what was
    happening around them.

    History will not be kind to these people.

    Hell, 60 days will not be kind to them.

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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Vk3jed on Mon Mar 23 13:47:12 2020
    On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 16:11:00 +1100
    "Vk3jed -> Weatherman" <0@109.1.21> wrote:

    On 03-22-20 09:43, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    We use Zoom for conference call/video meetings at work, too.
    Also use Microsoft Teams which is more of a collaboration
    suite.

    Zoom is pretty good.

    I try to stay away from zoom, but had to use it yesterday. The quality was shitty as always, didn't even work on my phone. Th UI is also not very good. Does that mean that other solutions are even worse? I had good experiences with
    Jitsi Meet (and it works in the browser).

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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to ryan on Mon Mar 23 17:13:34 2020
    On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 00:50:45 -0700
    "ryan -> Vk3jed" <0@168.1.21> wrote:

    Zoom is pretty good.

    I find Zoom (vs WebEx, vs Teams, vs Slack Video) optimizes so much on
    video quality that when you have poor connectivity at any given time
    for any reason, audio quality suffers most. I prefer alternatives due
    to that; if something's going to degrade, let it be video, but keep
    audio as-is.

    I agree. Now that everyone stays home they interview many people via Skype on live TV. Sometimes the video is still fine, but audio switches ridiculous low quality. Why? You can encode a good enough audio quality with 16 to 32 kbps, which is negligible in comparison to the bandwidth that the video consumes.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Oli on Tue Mar 24 14:56:00 2020
    On 03-23-20 09:47, Oli wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I try to stay away from zoom, but had to use it yesterday. The quality
    was shitty as always, didn't even work on my phone. Th UI is also not
    very good. Does that mean that other solutions are even worse? I had
    good experiences with
    Jitsi Meet (and it works in the browser).

    I've had good results with Zoom. As for browser based, that's good and bad. I prefer not to have my browser doing the meeting, because I may be doing something else, and crash it (or need to restart the broser). And besides, I use a phone, not a PC for online meetings nowadays.


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  • From Joacim Melin@21:2/130 to Gamgee on Tue Mar 24 10:37:09 2020
    tenser wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Eh...you know that a previous administration staffed a group at
    the CDC tasked with working on how our country would respond to
    this very issue, and Trump cut it by half in 2018, right?

    Yeah... Okay. Do you know that Obama's administration knew about
    all this too, and did nothing about it? Read here:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/pandemic-coronavirus
    -
    d-states-trump-cdc/608215/

    Interesting article.

    "We were warned in 2017, a week before inauguration day,
    when Lisa Monaco, Barak Obama's outgoing homeland-security
    advisor, gathered with Donald Trump's incoming
    national-security officials and conducted an exercise
    modeled on the administration's experiences with outbreaks
    of swine flu, Ebola, and Zika. The simulation explored
    how the U.S. government should respond to a flu pandemic
    that halts international travel, upends global supply
    chains, tanks the stock market, and burdens health-care
    systems---all with a vaccine many months from
    materializing."

    A way to read this is that the outgoing administration
    handed Trump's team a fully-formed playbook on how to
    respond, based on hard-learned lessons and experience,
    and he had three years to build on that and expand on
    the previous administration's strategies. Instead, he
    decided to dismantle the infrastructure.

    Yeah that may be one way to read it.

    Another way to read it is what the TWO PARAGRAPHS above the one
    you quoted (in the original article) said. Funny how you missed
    that, isn't it?

    Those paragraphs say that "we were warned" in 2012 *AND* 2015 that
    this kind of thing could happen. Who was President then??? Why
    was nothing done? You love to say that Trump has had three years
    to prepare... What did Obama do for those *FIVE* years on this subject...?

    Oh, and who was President during the Ebola and MERS outbreaks...
    That's right. What did he do about all that? Right again.
    Nothing.

    The USA doesn't suck. Some of us just hold it to a higher
    standard than it is right now.

    That's what some of us were saying from 2008-2017. See above
    article, all of that happened on Obama's watch. Where's the
    outrage? Holding a simulated "wargame" exercise literally a
    *WEEK* before Trump is inaugurated was supposed to help? The
    *ONLY* reason that was done was so that liberals would have
    something to point back to and say "See?! We warned them!".

    Outrage about what, exactly? Obama's not president now.

    I explained that above. The outrage about Obama's INACTION during MULTIPLE serious disease outbreaks, all of which were *FAR* more
    deadly than this current one. Why didn't Obama put into place all
    these measures that you lefties now blame Trump for not doing?

    Did the previous administration screw up? Quite possibly.
    But your guy has had three years to address whatever
    failings he was left with by the previous guy. What'd
    he do during those years, aside from tweeting?

    Again, see above. Obama had *LONGER* than three years, and
    MULTIPLE outbreaks, and did nothing. What did he do during those
    years, besides force government-mandated "healthcare" down the
    throats of Americans who didn't want it?

    Trump is failing miserably in response to this.

    Perhaps he is. Just like his predecessor.

    Where
    are the tests? Where are the masks? Where's the PPE
    for the doctors, nurses, hospital workers, and first
    responders? Don't give me platitudes or deflect to
    Obama or blame the liberals: Trump is in charge now.

    You'll have to ask the Obama administration where all those things
    are. It's not "deflecting", either, to say that. Just asking the
    same questions you are.

    I'm in the Boston area; nurses at MGH and Brigham and
    Women's hospitals, two of the TOP hospitals in the world,
    have taken to social media begging for masks from their
    friends. And people seriously want to turn around and
    blame Obama, who's been out of office for three years?

    I'm not "blaming" Obama. I'm asking you why it's fair to blame
    Trump for the EXACT same things that Obama did. None of you got
    upset with him then. Why now?

    That was then and this is now. Trump fascists sure seem to like to live in the past, because what happened in the past is the only thing that helps them deal with the current fuckup that resides in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


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  • From Joacim Melin@21:2/130 to tenser on Tue Mar 24 10:41:11 2020
    On 22 Mar 2020 at 10:16p, Gamgee pondered and said...

    tenser wrote to Gamgee <=-
    Another way to read it is what the TWO PARAGRAPHS above the one
    you quoted (in the original article) said. Funny how you missed
    that, isn't it?

    I didn't miss it. I read it. You misinterpreted it.

    Yeah, that's what I thought you'd say.

    We're done here.

    And meanwhile, people die.

    Thoughts and prayers.


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tue Mar 24 03:26:58 2020
    This is America. The ones who keep screwing us over will do everythin they can do to force those like myself hand over as much as they can keep making their money.
    Yeah. that would suck. :(

    Already seeing it happen. Those with money are getting their tests
    done...while the rest of us hope we don't die.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Phoobar on Wed Mar 25 00:18:00 2020
    On 03-23-20 23:26, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    This is America. The ones who keep screwing us over will do everythin they can do to force those like myself hand over as much as they can keep making their money.
    Yeah. that would suck. :(

    Already seeing it happen. Those with money are getting their tests done...while the rest of us hope we don't die.

    Here, tests are being prioritised for people who (1) show symptoms and (2) have potentially been exposed to the virus (been in contact with someone who has it, is a healthcare worker, recently returned from overseas, etc).


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Phoobar on Wed Mar 25 03:17:00 2020
    Already seeing it happen. Those with money are getting their tests done...while the rest of us hope we don't die.

    I see the Trumpmeister is getting ready to send you back to work and open shop again. Ahh she'll be right, we'll sacrifice GrandMa and GrandPa and a few million middle agers.... So you can keep money in my pocket... Sheesh..

    Spec


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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Joacim Melin on Wed Mar 25 07:10:26 2020
    On 24 Mar 2020 at 06:41a, Joacim Melin pondered and said...

    And meanwhile, people die.

    Thoughts and prayers.

    Please; this is a pandemic, not a mass shooting.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Joacim Melin on Tue Mar 24 13:41:00 2020
    Joacim Melin wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I'm not "blaming" Obama. I'm asking you why it's fair to blame
    Trump for the EXACT same things that Obama did. None of you got
    upset with him then. Why now?

    That was then and this is now. Trump fascists sure seem to like
    to live in the past, because what happened in the past is the
    only thing that helps them deal with the current fuckup that
    resides in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    Hahaha - another one who's infected with Trump Derangement
    Syndrome. You'll be suffering with that for another 4.5 years,
    enjoy it.

    Perhaps you should just mind your own Euro-commie country's
    business.


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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Jimmy Anderson on Wed Mar 25 08:43:01 2020
    Yeah - the pandemic is scary enough, but the loss of rights and the military stepping in scares me even more...

    A friend of mine today said, "it's hard to have an uprising when you
    can't get more than 10 people together..."

    dont worry; it looks like your president trump is oging to dig his heels in
    and change course....

    the president of the united states has had a change of heart; NOW, he says
    this 3/24/20 morning that "the cure cant be worse than the disease" and wants to allow america to fully go back to work... to accept whatever the virus throws at our country, and just move forward.

    im only talking for myself; but i dont trust president donald trump to do anything more than create good [at best] reality television for the sheeple.

    jessu h christ.... twists and turns, led by a guy without a drivers license.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From Joacim Melin@21:2/130 to tenser on Wed Mar 25 00:04:27 2020
    On 24 Mar 2020 at 06:41a, Joacim Melin pondered and said...

    And meanwhile, people die.

    Thoughts and prayers.

    Please; this is a pandemic, not a mass shooting.

    Sorry, I thought that was the American way: let's not fix what is broken and let's not change what is bad to become better - simply shrug and offer throughts and prayers and think that "I'm not affected so fuck it".


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  • From Joacim Melin@21:2/130 to Gamgee on Wed Mar 25 00:07:38 2020
    Joacim Melin wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I'm not "blaming" Obama. I'm asking you why it's fair to blame
    Trump for the EXACT same things that Obama did. None of you got
    upset with him then. Why now?

    That was then and this is now. Trump fascists sure seem to like
    to live in the past, because what happened in the past is the
    only thing that helps them deal with the current fuckup that
    resides in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    Hahaha - another one who's infected with Trump Derangement
    Syndrome. You'll be suffering with that for another 4.5 years,
    enjoy it.

    Perhaps you should just mind your own Euro-commie country's
    business.

    Love ya too, honey.

    (That's irony again. Are you getting it yet?)


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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Vk3jed on Tue Mar 24 16:28:25 2020
    Already seeing it happen. Those with money are getting their tests done...while the rest of us hope we don't die.
    Here, tests are being prioritised for people who (1) show symptoms and
    (2) have potentially been exposed to the virus (been in contact with someone who has it, is a healthcare worker, recently returned from overseas, etc).

    That's what the federal government says out of their mouths...but the truth
    to them is just farting into a stiff wind. We can still smell it...as we die
    or get worse...then die.

    Those with the power/money here in the States don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. If they could bring back slavery & get away with it outside
    of a prison environment...they would do so. For all we know...this may be the plan is to trade a vaccine in this country for those who would be slaves for the elite. Bastards never got over losing their treasonous war...so they have been trying anything outside of prisons to make it happen again.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Spectre on Tue Mar 24 16:48:30 2020
    I see the Trumpmeister is getting ready to send you back to work and
    open shop again. Ahh she'll be right, we'll sacrifice GrandMa and
    GrandPa and a few million middle agers.... So you can keep money in my pocket... Sheesh..

    Heard the OPOS is losing millions it doesn't have or can afford. It thinks it can try...but the states are going to have a lot to say about this. Some of these will give it the 1 finger salute...while the Democrats/Progressives
    will run on how it & those just like it want to kill grandma/grandpa to line their pockets. If it were me doing those spots...I would just start flashing dead bodies/pictures of those who died from this all over the place & start asking these fundamentalists why it was so important to put people in harm's way to make the OPOS a few extra bucks.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to mastermind on Tue Mar 24 17:20:39 2020
    the president of the united states has had a change of heart; NOW, he
    says this 3/24/20 morning that "the cure cant be worse than the disease" and wants to allow america to fully go back to work... to accept
    whatever the virus throws at our country, and just move forward.
    im only talking for myself; but i dont trust president donald trump to do anything more than create good [at best] reality television for the sheeple.

    The OPOS is losing millions a day it can't afford...so of course he will say this. On the other hand...the states which are already doing something are going to give it a 1-finger salute. It might try to get the National Guard activated...but when they are scared of catching the disease for the pay of following a POS who doesn't pay it's own bills...it just might not have much
    to force...except getting of Fox Stupid & cry about it. To the OPOS...I say...F**k You & the Horse You Rode In On! You end up dead...they better have
    a permanent hazmat team to keep people from pissing/deficating on its grave.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to Joacim Melin on Tue Mar 24 17:21:37 2020
    And meanwhile, people die.
    Thoughts and prayers.
    Please; this is a pandemic, not a mass shooting.
    Sorry, I thought that was the American way: let's not fix what is broken and let's not change what is bad to become better - simply shrug and
    offer throughts and prayers and think that "I'm not affected so fuck
    it".

    +10

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to mastermind on Tue Mar 24 18:35:46 2020
    Re: Re: COVID in USA
    By: mastermind to Jimmy Anderson on Wed Mar 25 2020 04:43 am

    im only talking for myself; but i dont trust president donald trump to do anything more than create good [at best] reality television for the sheeple.

    Nor do the networks - they cut off the President's briefing yesterday. I wish they'd get the experts on first, then have Trump contradict them. I'd much rather hear them speak first them have them switch to another program.
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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Joacim Melin on Wed Mar 25 15:36:58 2020
    On 24 Mar 2020 at 08:04p, Joacim Melin pondered and said...

    Sorry, I thought that was the American way: let's not fix what is broken and let's not change what is bad to become better - simply shrug and
    offer throughts and prayers and think that "I'm not affected so fuck
    it".

    Only when the Dow drops so far it erases the Trump Bump.
    Send Grandpa out on that ice flow to jack up the S&P5.

    (But seriously; not all Americans are like that. I'm proud
    to be an American: that's why I try to hold my countrymen
    to a higher standard.)

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Spectre on Wed Mar 25 16:00:11 2020
    On 24 Mar 2020 at 11:17p, Spectre pondered and said...

    Already seeing it happen. Those with money are getting their tests done...while the rest of us hope we don't die.

    I see the Trumpmeister is getting ready to send you back to work and
    open shop again. Ahh she'll be right, we'll sacrifice GrandMa and
    GrandPa and a few million middle agers.... So you can keep money in my pocket... Sheesh..

    Spec

    this 'president trump' is a certain type of idiot, i swear.
    my mother [currently in lockdown in a stroke rehab facility..] is directly in the line of fire with this 'presidents' new idea as how to handle COViD-19.
    it sickens me...

    for the record, and as an american, i'd like to say that i would rather put
    my economic stability on the line than put our at-risk americans in direct
    line of fire of COViD-19. i cant imagine that the nation would poll much differently... the 1% [rich folks] should NOT drive the 99%; it seems like
    our president has already decided to protect the $$$, stock market, and
    economy OVER human life. i just cannot fathom how he can think thats the
    right way to go...

    certainly, im not willy-nilly saying kill the entire economy; but when human life is on the line... jesus... inhumane.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Phoobar on Wed Mar 25 16:08:15 2020
    On 24 Mar 2020 at 01:20p, Phoobar pondered and said...

    the president of the united states has had a change of heart; NOW, he says this 3/24/20 morning that "the cure cant be worse than the disea and wants to allow america to fully go back to work... to accept whatever the virus throws at our country, and just move forward.
    im only talking for myself; but i dont trust president donald trump t anything more than create good [at best] reality television for the sheeple.

    The OPOS is losing millions a day it can't afford...so of course he will say this. On the other hand...the states which are already doing
    something are going to give it a 1-finger salute. It might try to get
    the National Guard activated...but when they are scared of catching the disease for the pay of following a POS who doesn't pay it's own
    bills...it just might not have much to force...except getting of Fox Stupid & cry about it. To the OPOS...I say...F**k You & the Horse You
    Rode In On! You end up dead...they better have a permanent hazmat team
    to keep people from pissing/deficating on its grave.

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    Amen. trump is a certain kind of scumbag, that should be reserved for
    mediocre reality television only.... oh, jesus, kinda like fox news... oops.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Mar 25 16:09:49 2020
    On 24 Mar 2020 at 02:35p, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    Re: Re: COVID in USA
    By: mastermind to Jimmy Anderson on Wed Mar 25 2020 04:43 am

    im only talking for myself; but i dont trust president donald trump to anything more than create good [at best] reality television for the sheeple.

    Nor do the networks - they cut off the President's briefing yesterday. I wish they'd get the experts on first, then have Trump contradict them.
    I'd much rather hear them speak first them have them switch to another program. --- SBBSecho 3.09-Win32
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    freaking agreed. americans need to wake up and... somehow take trump out of this COViD-19 equation. america is fixing to go the wrong way on this, and i fear the reprecussions are for all of us to experience. not just the joker at the top.

    i cant believe it.
    [also, the fact that we voted this idiot in...]

    M@STERMiND

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Joacim Melin on Tue Mar 24 22:04:00 2020
    Joacim Melin wrote to tenser <=-

    Thoughts and prayers.

    Please; this is a pandemic, not a mass shooting.

    Sorry, I thought that was the American way: let's not fix what is
    broken and let's not change what is bad to become better - simply
    shrug and offer throughts and prayers and think that "I'm not
    affected so fuck it".

    Which proves (again) that you don't know much about America.

    Mind your own business, Euro-boy.


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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Phoobar on Tue Mar 24 22:07:00 2020
    Phoobar wrote to Spectre <=-

    Heard the OPOS is losing millions it doesn't have or can afford.
    It thinks it can try...but the states are going to have a lot to
    say about this. Some of these will give it the 1 finger
    salute...while the Democrats/Progressives will run on how it &
    those just like it want to kill grandma/grandpa to line their
    pockets. If it were me doing those spots...I would just start
    flashing dead bodies/pictures of those who died from this all
    over the place & start asking these fundamentalists why it was so important to put people in harm's way to make the OPOS a few
    extra bucks.

    You have some pretty serious mental (delusional) issues.

    Just telling you in case you didn't know.

    Perhaps you should go to the hospital...? ;-)



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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to mastermind on Tue Mar 24 21:52:01 2020
    Amen. trump is a certain kind of scumbag, that should be reserved for mediocre reality television only.... oh, jesus, kinda like fox news... oops.

    There is a reason Canada & other countries refuse to allow this sh1tty programming not being shown in their homes. Heard they tried Fox Stupid in
    the UK...but they lost so much money they took if off the bird. Now...if only the same thing would happen...this country would automatically be a much
    better place.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to mastermind on Tue Mar 24 21:54:34 2020
    Nor do the networks - they cut off the President's briefing yesterday wish they'd get the experts on first, then have Trump contradict them I'd much rather hear them speak first them have them switch to anothe program. --- SBBSecho 3.09-Win32

    The problem is they let this POS have free air time & gladly do it. If they would only shut the POS down on the first lie (when it takes in air to talk without saying anything at all)...would piss it off & save the country from hearing the head idiot try to fit in.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Vk3jed on Tue Mar 24 12:32:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Oli <=-

    I've had good results with Zoom. As for browser based, that's good and bad. I prefer not to have my browser doing the meeting, because I may
    be doing something else, and crash it (or need to restart the broser).
    And besides, I use a phone, not a PC for online meetings nowadays.

    I've only got 8 gb of RAM in my desktop, and I've been using it over my
    laptop for the dual monitors, nice keyboard, mouse, etc.

    Using Teams, Slack, Outlook and OneDrive in a browser uses less memory and works pretty much as well than using the standalone clients.

    I haven't tried Zoom yet, I have a Zoom call later this week and will see if they have a web option.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Phoobar on Tue Mar 24 12:38:00 2020
    Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Already seeing it happen. Those with money are getting their tests done...while the rest of us hope we don't die.

    The dystopian part of it all is watching professional sports teams getting first priority over testing - entire teams getting tested in a matter of hours, and the media reporting it like we should be grateful our idols are getting tested.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Spectre on Tue Mar 24 12:40:00 2020
    Spectre wrote to Phoobar <=-

    I see the Trumpmeister is getting ready to send you back to work and
    open shop again.

    Maybe if we promise to vote for him in November he'll give us a couple of
    more weeks.

    It's ugly, the media this morning is spinning this as Trump focusing on the state of the economy as a bellwether for his chances for re-election. All we need now is a hot microphone to pick up how he really feels...




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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to Gamgee on Wed Mar 25 14:30:16 2020
    On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:07:00 -0500
    "Gamgee -> Phoobar" <0@138.2.21> wrote:

    You have some pretty serious mental (delusional) issues.

    Just telling you in case you didn't know.

    Perhaps you should go to the hospital...? ;-)

    Perhaps it's time that you leave fsxnet? Seriously ...

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Mar 26 01:07:00 2020
    On 03-24-20 08:32, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I've only got 8 gb of RAM in my desktop, and I've been using it over my laptop for the dual monitors, nice keyboard, mouse, etc.

    Using Teams, Slack, Outlook and OneDrive in a browser uses less memory
    and works pretty much as well than using the standalone clients.

    Hmm, OK, probably for a scheduled meeting it's OK. Some of my preferences are to work around quirks of mine.

    I haven't tried Zoom yet, I have a Zoom call later this week and will
    see if they have a web option.

    I haven't used it on a PC, only o a phone.


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  • From Weatherman@21:1/132 to Joacim Melin on Wed Mar 25 18:16:23 2020

    That was then and this is now. Trump fascists sure seem to like to live
    in the past, because what happened in the past is the only thing that
    helps them deal with the current fuckup that resides in 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    Please keep your Fidonet Sysop dribble out of fsxnet..

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Phoobar on Thu Mar 26 11:47:17 2020
    On 24 Mar 2020 at 05:52p, Phoobar pondered and said...

    There is a reason Canada & other countries refuse to allow this sh1tty programming not being shown in their homes. Heard they tried Fox Stupid
    in the UK...but they lost so much money they took if off the bird. Now...if only the same thing would happen...this country would automatically be a much better place.


    where do you find the most unbiased meida coverage? i *used to* use CNN- i
    feel like a decade ago they were less biased towards the left, but since [and before] trump, they are the left. fox is... just sheesh.

    currently, i like NPR... they are still left-leaning, and show small bias
    when reporting at times... but for a lot of their info, you just get the facts... sprinkled in with tongue-in-cheek left leaning remarks at times...

    i also think iPhones/Apples NEWS app is pretty good... really, its good at supplying a broad range of news, so you get it ALL at once; at least you can see what both dumb sides are saying.

    where do you like to consume media? what are the most unbiased places you
    know to read? do you search sites away from the united states?

    i also dig BBC and try to search other countries, especially in this COViD-19 age.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From mastermind@21:1/101 to Phoobar on Thu Mar 26 11:51:48 2020
    On 24 Mar 2020 at 05:54p, Phoobar pondered and said...

    Nor do the networks - they cut off the President's briefing yest wish they'd get the experts on first, then have Trump contradict I'd much rather hear them speak first them have them switch to a program. --- SBBSecho 3.09-Win32

    The problem is they let this POS have free air time & gladly do it. If they would only shut the POS down on the first lie (when it takes in air to talk without saying anything at all)...would piss it off & save the country from hearing the head idiot try to fit in.


    yea; yesterays [3/24/20] FOX town hall in the white house rode garden
    broadcast was a JOKE! it was basically what you stated, a microphone for
    trump to state any BS lies that he wants the American public to hear. there
    was so much BS in that 50-minute broadcast that the retorts from CNN/other media claimed several errors in facts.

    i want to see CNN [or any left leaning media] have a 'town hall' access to
    the president! i want to see someone REALLY let trump have it; just so the american people can see him flabbergasted with any true push back on his BS statements. let those AGAINST you ask questions, sir... see how you do then.

    i dont need to see FOX, friends of trump... all the people get out of that is more trump BS. im literally worried to be led by this guy in this COViD-19 outbreak. back by easter? lost your fucking mind bro.

    M@STERMiND

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to mastermind on Wed Mar 25 16:15:49 2020
    where do you find the most unbiased meida coverage? i *used to* use CNN-
    i feel like a decade ago they were less biased towards the left, but
    since [and before] trump, they are the left. fox is... just sheesh.

    https://www.adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart/?v=402f03a963ba

    I generally use The Guardian (slightly left leaning), NPR, or BBC News.

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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to mastermind on Wed Mar 25 16:18:43 2020
    currently, i like NPR... they are still left-leaning, and show small bias when reporting at times... but for a lot of their info, you just get the facts... sprinkled in with tongue-in-cheek left leaning remarks at times...

    There is generally a distinction between the NPR opinion (left leaning) and
    NPR online news (center)

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  • From Oli@21:1/151 to mastermind on Thu Mar 26 00:41:24 2020
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 07:47:17 +1300
    "mastermind -> Phoobar" <0@101.1.21> wrote:

    where do you find the most unbiased meida coverage? i *used to* use
    CNN- i feel like a decade ago they were less biased towards the left,
    but since [and before] trump, they are the left. fox is... just
    sheesh.

    From a European perspective I find it amusing that CNN is seen as left.

    currently, i like NPR... they are still left-leaning, and show small
    bias when reporting at times... but for a lot of their info, you just
    get the facts... sprinkled in with tongue-in-cheek left leaning
    remarks at times...

    where do you like to consume media? what are the most unbiased places
    you know to read? do you search sites away from the united states?

    They are all biased in one way or another. I don't think bias or opinion is bad, consuming facts only
    would be pretty boring. I'm wouldn't watch Fox news or RT, because it is just a
    waste of time, but I
    try to get a mix of different biases. I subscribed also to CBC, PBS NewsHour, Al Jazeera, ITV News
    and Democracy Now (what I would call left leaning). I think it could be more diverse and the
    selectioon is still a bit random ...

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  • From ryan@21:1/168 to Oli on Wed Mar 25 16:59:54 2020
    From a European perspective I find it amusing that CNN is seen as left.

    Their editorials are pretty left, and their huge font size hystrionics every time Trump says something absurd is...strange, to say the least. Lol.

    But you bring up a good point. Progressives in the US are seen as far-left wingnuts, but the Democratic party in the USA is pretty center right when compared to the rest of the civilized world. I think we fail to appreciate
    how fringe right wing our country has become as a western nation. It skews
    our center to the far right as well.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Mar 25 17:55:11 2020
    Already seeing it happen. Those with money are getting their tests done...while the rest of us hope we don't die.
    The dystopian part of it all is watching professional sports teams
    getting first priority over testing - entire teams getting tested in a matter of hours, and the media reporting it like we should be grateful
    our idols are getting tested.

    Don't watch American news...but I'm going to take your word on it...since my non-US sources are reporting on stuff the US companies won't touch.

    In terms of these folks...let them get their tests. When they end up in
    prison for beating their current spouse or DUI...their testing is going to do ZERO for them. Just wondering if the one they piss off in jail who puts the beat-down on them is going to care if they got their test done first?

    Plus...I may be totally mistaken...but I have heard how this virus has been mutating like crazy...so they want to feel "impotent"...let them. Add onto
    that the OPOS "demanding" that churches be full on Easter! I'll either be working or at home working on OS/2.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to Weatherman on Wed Mar 25 21:10:22 2020
    Please keep your Fidonet Sysop dribble out of fsxnet..

    Pot meet kettle.

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  • From Netsurge@21:4/154 to ryan on Wed Mar 25 21:14:34 2020
    But you bring up a good point. Progressives in the US are seen as
    far-left wingnuts, but the Democratic party in the USA is pretty center right when compared to the rest of the civilized world. I think we fail
    to appreciate how fringe right wing our country has become as a western nation. It skews our center to the far right as well.

    The Democratic party would be center-right at best here in Canada. Our
    centrist party, The Liberal Party of Canada is further left than the dems.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to mastermind on Wed Mar 25 19:16:38 2020
    where do you find the most unbiased meida coverage? i *used to* use CNN-
    i feel like a decade ago they were less biased towards the left, but
    since [and before] trump, they are the left. fox is... just sheesh.

    Myself...enjoy Reuters because it is not US based...but they cover a lot of
    US happens. My other go-to is Canadian Broadcasting...which I listen to every work day to see what's going on. They do have some US coverage...but will not do what the US companies do by giving away free time to US candidates. They also have reporters in major US cities as well. To a lesser degree...the BBC...but with them geo-blocking...hard to get anything but from US bureaus.
    If my Google Mini could get DW English...that would be the cat's meow.

    You have to remember any of the US based news organizations are owned by SIX large companies. That should give you some reflection on what those who own them want you to hear. In terms of NPR...since 2017 & the move to get their ducks in a row to get access to the OPOS...I put them as bad as CNN & such.
    If the American companies want to get my eyes back on them...give the OPOS NO COVERAGE at all.

    where do you like to consume media? what are the most unbiased places you know to read? do you search sites away from the united states?
    i also dig BBC and try to search other countries, especially in this COViD-19 age.

    Usually when I'm in my half bath getting ready for work...I have the Mini set up to play news from Reuters/CBC. Like the BBC...but with my limited time in the morning...kind of hard to get the full story on anything the way I would like. Plus...I also catch progressive news from the Daily KOS & such.

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  • From Phoobar@21:2/147 to mastermind on Wed Mar 25 19:19:55 2020
    yea; yesterays [3/24/20] FOX town hall in the white house rode garden broadcast was a JOKE! it was basically what you stated, a microphone for trump to state any BS lies that he wants the American public to hear. there was so much BS in that 50-minute broadcast that the retorts from CNN/other media claimed several errors in facts.

    Thom Hartmann was also looking at this & just gave up trying to fact check
    it. The reason was the lies were coming so fact & furious that his 3 hour
    show would need several more hours.

    I would also suggest Free Speech TV for another place to get your news. Democracy Today is an outstanding program.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Netsurge on Thu Mar 26 15:04:00 2020
    The Democratic party would be center-right at best here in Canada. Our centrist party, The Liberal Party of Canada is further left than the dems.

    Its all very confusing, here in Aus, you've got the liberal party who are conservatives, the commie red labour party, and crack smoking greens and also rans... :)

    But both the Liberal and Labour Parties are just about the flip side of the same coin... they're only about 1 step away from being the same party. In my eyes anyway.

    Spec


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to ryan on Fri Mar 27 00:43:00 2020
    On 03-25-20 12:59, ryan wrote to Oli <=-

    But you bring up a good point. Progressives in the US are seen as
    far-left wingnuts, but the Democratic party in the USA is pretty center right when compared to the rest of the civilized world. I think we fail
    to appreciate how fringe right wing our country has become as a western nation. It skews our center to the far right as well.

    Yes, the US is considered skewed to the right, compared to most of the world. Other than some communists, I haven't seen anything left leaning out of the USA. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Netsurge on Fri Mar 27 00:54:00 2020
    On 03-25-20 17:14, Netsurge wrote to ryan <=-

    The Democratic party would be center-right at best here in Canada. Our

    Probably the same over here in Australia too.

    centrist party, The Liberal Party of Canada is further left than the
    dems.

    I'm not familiar with Canadian politics.

    Here, the main two parties are the Liberal Party (actually fairly right leaning) and the Australian Labor Party (taditionally centre left, but these days often more centre right). The larger of the minor parties are the Nationals, who usually form a coalition with the Liberals and the Greens, which are our main left leaning party these days.

    One thing absent from today's Australian politics is a party that caters to the "sensible centre", which is where a lot of voters lean.


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  • From buanzo@21:2/161 to Vk3jed on Sat Mar 21 16:25:44 2020
    On 21 Mar 2020, Vk3jed said the following...
    Or died weeks ago? ;P

    ROFLMAO -

    Now seriously, I read the advance symptons are diarrhea and lack of apetite.

    So watch out for that.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to buanzo on Fri Mar 27 21:26:00 2020
    On 03-21-20 12:25, buanzo wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    On 21 Mar 2020, Vk3jed said the following...
    Or died weeks ago? ;P

    ROFLMAO -

    Now seriously, I read the advance symptons are diarrhea and lack of apetite.

    So watch out for that.

    Hmm, OK. And you cut a bit too much context off.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Fri Mar 27 22:42:00 2020
    On 03-26-20 11:04, Spectre wrote to Netsurge <=-

    But both the Liberal and Labour Parties are just about the flip side of the same coin... they're only about 1 step away from being the same
    party. In my eyes anyway.

    Around 10 years ago, the joke was that "ALP" stood for "Another Liveral Party". ;)


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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Vk3jed on Wed Mar 25 18:56:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    On 03-22-20 22:52, Jimmy Anderson wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Vk3jed wrote to mastermind <=-

    people from congregating together. There are powers in the various
    states of emergency that allow the safety measures to be legally
    enforced. There's also provisions for massive fines (and in some jurisdictions, jail time), if all else fails.

    Hope they have enough jail space to allow no more than 10 people
    in a cell. :-)

    Good point. But now there's plenty of empty hotel rooms they could
    use. ;)

    LOL - very true!




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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Jimmy Anderson on Sat Mar 28 15:54:00 2020
    On 03-25-20 14:56, Jimmy Anderson wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Hope they have enough jail space to allow no more than 10 people
    in a cell. :-)

    Good point. But now there's plenty of empty hotel rooms they could
    use. ;)

    LOL - very true!

    Well, fny I hould saha, our Federal government has brought in mandatory 14 day qarantine for all overseas arrivals at teir port of arrival, and they will be using hotels to accommodate people in quarantine.


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  • From -= Havok =-@21:4/10 to Weatherman on Sat Mar 28 19:25:00 2020
    Re: Re: COVID in USA
    By: Weatherman to Joacim Melin on Wed Mar 25 2020 02:16 pm


    Please keep your Fidonet Sysop dribble out of fsxnet..

    Second that, Mark!



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  • From Embalmed@21:4/166 to All on Tue Apr 21 17:26:16 2020
    No, it doesn't, I only brought it up because we still don't know enough about how it transmits, and I certainly don't want to be one of the
    people spreading false information, even if it is about farts :D

    Well, turns out maybe we should be a little worried about farts after all.

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/20/can-the-coronavirus-be-spread-through-farts/

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  • From Dr. What@21:2/146 to Embalmed on Thu Apr 23 13:42:00 2020
    Embalmed wrote to All <=-

    Well, turns out maybe we should be a little worried about farts after
    all.

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/20/can-the-coronavirus-be-spread-through-fart s/

    Many diseases can be spread that way. That is one of the reasons it became socially important to wear some sort of pants/underware.

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  • From calcmandan@21:1/137 to Dr. What on Fri Apr 24 04:12:00 2020
    Dr. What wrote to Embalmed <=-

    Embalmed wrote to All <=-

    Well, turns out maybe we should be a little worried about farts after
    all.

    https://nypost.com/2020/04/20/can-the-coronavirus-be-spread-through-fart s/

    Many diseases can be spread that way. That is one of the reasons it became socially important to wear some sort of pants/underware.

    If this is true I'm in trouble.



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to calcmandan on Fri Apr 24 22:42:00 2020
    On 04-24-20 00:12, calcmandan wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Many diseases can be spread that way. That is one of the reasons it became socially important to wear some sort of pants/underware.

    If this is true I'm in trouble.

    Dare I ask? ;)


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  • From calcmandan@21:1/137 to Vk3jed on Fri Apr 24 07:08:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to calcmandan <=-

    On 04-24-20 00:12, calcmandan wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Many diseases can be spread that way. That is one of the reasons it became socially important to wear some sort of pants/underware.

    If this is true I'm in trouble.

    Dare I ask? ;)

    https://i.imgflip.com/1vjavd.jpg


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  • From Digital Man@21:1/183 to calcmandan on Fri Apr 24 14:51:46 2020
    Re: Re: COVID in USA
    By: calcmandan to Vk3jed on Fri Apr 24 2020 03:08 am

    Vk3jed wrote to calcmandan <=-

    On 04-24-20 00:12, calcmandan wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Many diseases can be spread that way. That is one of the reasons it became socially important to wear some sort of pants/underware.

    If this is true I'm in trouble.

    Dare I ask? ;)

    https://i.imgflip.com/1vjavd.jpg

    Anyone else stare at that for a few seconds, waiting for his eyes to move?

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  • From Sneaky@21:1/115 to calcmandan on Sat Apr 25 15:17:00 2020
    calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Vk3jed wrote to calcmandan <=-

    On 04-24-20 00:12, calcmandan wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Many diseases can be spread that way. That is one of the reasons it became socially important to wear some sort of pants/underware.

    If this is true I'm in trouble.

    Dare I ask? ;)

    https://i.imgflip.com/1vjavd.jpg


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  • From Sneaky@21:1/115 to calcmandan on Sat Apr 25 15:21:00 2020
    Hi calcmandan

    Whoops, sorry posted by mistake

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz


    Vk3jed wrote to calcmandan <=-

    On 04-24-20 00:12, calcmandan wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Many diseases can be spread that way. That is one of the reasons it became socially important to wear some sort of pants/underware.

    If this is true I'm in trouble.

    Dare I ask? ;)

    https://i.imgflip.com/1vjavd.jpg


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to calcmandan on Sat Apr 25 12:06:00 2020
    On 04-24-20 03:08, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Many diseases can be spread that way. That is one of the reasons it became socially important to wear some sort of pants/underware.

    If this is true I'm in trouble.

    Dare I ask? ;)

    https://i.imgflip.com/1vjavd.jpg

    Hmm whatever.


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  • From calcmandan@21:1/137 to Sneaky on Sat Apr 25 06:46:00 2020
    Sneaky wrote to calcmandan <=-

    Hi calcmandan

    Whoops, sorry posted by mistake

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz


    Vk3jed wrote to calcmandan <=-

    On 04-24-20 00:12, calcmandan wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Many diseases can be spread that way. That is one of the reasons it became socially important to wear some sort of pants/underware.

    If this is true I'm in trouble.

    Dare I ask? ;)

    https://i.imgflip.com/1vjavd.jpg

    Nothing to lose sleep over.


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