On 05-31-20 08:43, MeaTLoTioN wrote to All <=-
I know that this isn't the first internet radio station to be born out
of the BBS scene, but I wanted to make something dedicated to
chiptunes, and one of tqwNet's members suggested I do it some time
after I first thought about it, which prompted me to actually make it happen.
On 05-31-20 08:43, MeaTLoTioN wrote to All <=-
I know that this isn't the first internet radio station to be born ou of the BBS scene, but I wanted to make something dedicated to chiptunes, and one of tqwNet's members suggested I do it some time after I first thought about it, which prompted me to actually make it happen.
Now that's cool! :)
I would love to get lots more feedback, so if you have a spare 5 mins sometime and you enjoy chiptunes, give it a listen. You can use VLC
for Android (and I assume iOS), as well as I guess any web browser
capable of playing streamed music. Just head over to https://
radio.erb.pw to have a listen.
podcasts 24/7. You can hear it at https://radio.erb.pw and I have set the podcasts to be request-able, so if you miss one you can request it to play it'll be queued within a few songs.
It wouldn't play in my VLC (Win XP). Until Jun 3, my ISP has throttled
me down to under 100kbps. :(
I generally don't have a problem streaming 96kbps radio through iTunes
on the XP pc, but yours wasn't coming through.
Meanwhile, I tried the link in the web browsers on both my WinXP and
Win7 laptops. The site takes a very looooong time to render (nice backsplash/ logo btw). Eventually, what appears to be a player shows up in the middle of the screen showing track, title, time. The tune
appears to play as the progress bar and time advances, but there is no sound.
The requestable feature is interesting, similar to call-in radio. Nice project you have there.
But as it stands, it seems that 8-bit radio requires 21st century technology. :(
I will try your feed at a place where I have DSL.
Nice. Really like the looks of it and the possibility to see past tracks and make requests. Could be possible to also be a link to the track, perhaps in the bbs or is a site like modarchive in case someone wants to download it?
I generally don't have a problem streaming 96kbps radio through
iTunes on the XP pc, but yours wasn't coming through.
I think I have the bit rate set higher than that, I think I set it to 128Kbps
Meanwhile, I tried the link in the web browsers on both my WinXP and
Win7 laptops. The site takes a very looooong time to render (nice
backsplash/ logo btw)..
Hmm I will have to try and compress the image a little then as I
completely forgot about the size of it and slower connections. It's hosted in the data centre so bandwidth (for me and it) is irrelevant, but not for people who would connect to it... however that said, when i've had 3
people streaming it's only using like 20-30Kbps bandwidth... so I don't know yet. Have to look into it some more.
I'd like to hear what you think when you get to listen to it. I really
love chiptunes, so for me I can listen all day long and love it, I
toyed with the idea of doing it long ago so others could share in my enjoyment, but only made it happen this month.
On 05-31-20 12:13, MeaTLoTioN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Now that's cool! :)
Yeah I think so, thanks =)
Let me know what you think and if you have any suggestions I would love
to hear them.
I am thinking about maybe opening up some slots for live DJ sets if any chiptune artists wan't to get some air time, or someone just fancies playing some chiptunes of their own playlist for a set amount of time.
Hmmm.. 128k should have started at some point, but I watched 2 songs "play" and there was no sound.
The background image appears to be 5.9MB. You should definately reduce that quite a bit. At my pathetic 100kbps, I can only fetch 1MB per
minute (or less because apparently there is upload overhead as well)
However, after the 1st visit, the next time I load the https:// site,
the background pops up faster.
But how much data would a typical 4 minute stream consume? You probably don't need hi fidelity for computerized tunes. 128Kbps sounds
reasonable, but maybe you can offer something less like a 96Kbps setting?
If you say that when 3 people are streaming and you are only seeing
30Kbps tops, then that shouldn't cost too much to stream for a few hours here.
From time to time I'll still listen to the music radio stations that are built into the iTunes player. Most of those sound perfectly fine at 96Kbps - especially the old-time radio plays and other talkies.
I don't think I ever heard the term chiptunes before. MIDI or .WAV samples, yes. But not chiptunes. I had to look it up.
I am thinking about maybe opening up some slots for live DJ sets if a chiptune artists wan't to get some air time, or someone just fancies playing some chiptunes of their own playlist for a set amount of time
Could be interesting too.
That's right, there's hardly any movement in the speedo
On 06-01-20 08:06, MeaTLoTioN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
It would be even better if I could spell the word "want" correctly! Not sure how that stray apostrophe got in there, I hang my head in shame.
HAHA
It does mean however I will probably have to manually add nearly 10,000 links and info to the songs database... that could keep me going for the rest of the year I reckon =)
Thanks for your feedback, hope y'all enjoy it.
You don't have to put links for all tracks, just the ones you know or
have the time to add the links :) If the files/tracks are in your BBS, perhaps you can automate the procedure with a script and add a "local" link to your BBS.
After adding the links, you should consider to add tags also :) hahahaha
Congrats! This is great to listen to and looks / sounds nice. :) I am now reading up on the software you're using. I may have some n00b questions about it to follow.
Feel free to ask me questions, I'm still learning it all but it's getting there.
The software intrigues me. I'm wondering if I could use it for
totalfm.nz but I would need to suss how I could feed what I currently
feed to my icecast server and I'm picking feed that instead to the dj software as a 'live' input? Not 100% sure on that...
You can hear it at https://radio.erb.pw and I haveset the podcasts to beMe> request-able, so if you miss o
I generally don't have a problem streaming 96kbps radio through
iTunes on the XP pc, but yours wasn't coming through.
I generally don't have a problem streaming 96kbps radio through
iTunes on the XP pc, but yours wasn't coming through.
I have just enabled two extra streams for the radio, a 96kbps stream and a 64kbps stream.
Please can you let me know what you think and if either of those are
better for you. Thanks for the suggestion too.
Hello Meatlotion!
** On Friday 05.06.20 - 13:58, MeaTLoTioN wrote to Ogg:
I generally don't have a problem streaming 96kbps radio through
iTunes on the XP pc, but yours wasn't coming through.
I have just enabled two extra streams for the radio, a 96kbps stream a 64kbps stream.
Please can you let me know what you think and if either of those are better for you. Thanks for the suggestion too.
I saw the kbps choice options that you added.
Here are some particulars on my machines:
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::: PC #1: XP, Lenovo G530 :::
[a]
Opera 36.0
Version: 36.0.2130.80 - Opera is up to date
Update stream: Stable
System: Windows XP 32-bit
And the error I would get:
radio.erb.pw uses an unsupported protocol.
The client and server don't support a common SSL protocol version or cipher suite. This is likely to be caused when the server needs RC4,
which is no longer considered secure.
[b]
Firefox 52.9.0 32-bit NO SOUND.
I don't get any error messages. There is just no sound feed.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
::: PC #2: XP, Lenovo Thinkpad T60 :::
[a]
Opera 36.0
Version: 36.0.2130.80 - Opera is up to date
Update stream: Stable
System: Windows XP 32-bit
Browser identification
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/49.0.2623.112 Safari/537.36 OPR/36.0.2130.80
This site can't provide a secure connection
radio.erb.pw uses an unsupported protocol.
The client and server don't support a common SSL protocol version or cipher suite. This is likely to be caused when the server needs RC4,
which is no longer considered secure.
[b]
Firefox 52.8.0 32-bit WORKS!
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::: PC #3: Win7-64bit, Lenovo Thinkpad T540p :::
[a]
Firefox 77.0.1 64bit *NOW* is WORKING! (It did not before.. and I didn't change anything)
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I would prefer to use PC #1 above, as it is connected to an external set of speakers. There is a PC #4 (Win764bit) that sits on the same LAN as
PC #1, but the external speaker system is connected to PC #1. Rewiring
to use PC #4 would be impossible right now. I tried a little program
that listens for audio from one pc to another on the same LAN, (I think it's called Ip-Sound), but that did not work.
radio.erb.pw uses an unsupported protocol.
The client and server don't support a common SSL protocol version or
cipher suite. This is likely to be caused when the server needs RC4,
which is no longer considered secure.
This is very interesting, and hopefully I have hacked the container's
nginx to now remove RC4 - I just ran it through SSL Labs and it gets an A!
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=radio.erb.pw&hideResults=on
This might have fixed your issues with PC #1 and Opera
[b]
Firefox 52.9.0 32-bit NO SOUND.
I don't get any error messages. There is just no sound feed.
Not sure how to attack this one, but I wonder if Firefox with that version either has the mime type for MP3 disabled, or it needs to install it?
Let me know how it goes.
Hello Meatlotion!
** On Saturday 06.06.20 - 02:59, MeaTLoTioN wrote to Ogg:
Let me know how it goes.
One other thing I wanted to mention. Your site continues to feed a
stream even after I close the browser tab or the whole browser. I have
to temporarily cut my internet (it's just a wi-fi switch at the
particular pc) to make it stop. Being on a metered mobile connection, this particular detail can be important for the underprivileged that do not have unlimited data. :(
One other thing I wanted to mention. Your site continues to feed a
stream even after I close the browser tab or the whole browser..
Hmm this is very interesting too, I'll have to bring it up with the devs
to see if this is a known behaviour or not.
Thanks for letting me know.
Hello Meatlotion!
** On Saturday 06.06.20 - 09:35, MeaTLoTioN wrote to Ogg:
One other thing I wanted to mention. Your site continues to feed a
stream even after I close the browser tab or the whole browser..
Hmm this is very interesting too, I'll have to bring it up with the de to see if this is a known behaviour or not.
Thanks for letting me know.
I've seen this happen with another music stream place that I was hoping
to utilize at home (mobile data) even if it was just for a few minutes. But I don't remember which one it was or if it too was mentioned in this echo.
In other news.. I just noticed that another pc (a Win7 laptop, also
parked at home) was using a steady trickle of data UP and DOWN even when sitting idle. It's a fresh install, no 3rd party apps, no anti-virus
app yet, Windows Updates is only enabled to notify me of updates, (but
NOT download). I think that machine contributed to my using up my
meager 5GB last month faster than I thought. But I digress...
When I expect a pc to be idle, it really should be idle.
NOT download). I think that machine contributed to my using up my
meager 5GB last month faster than I thought. But I digress...
When I expect a pc to be idle, it really should be idle.
One other thing I wanted to mention. Your site continues to feed a
stream even after I close the browser tab or the whole browser..
I've been looking at this today and when I am listening to music from my radio station, either using VLC or the web version to stream the music, as soon as I stop the playback, and/or close the application that is
listening to the stream, the bandwidth that I can see on the server instantly drops and the link appears to terminate.
How can I replicate this on my end to see what you're seeing?
In other news.. I just noticed that another pc (a Win7 laptop, also
parked at home) was using a steady trickle of data UP and DOWN even when
sitting idle...
Is this after (trying to) listen to my radio station? Or was this PC not trying to listen just happened to show the same symptoms of not idling
when idle?
I think that as long as a device has a network connection it will always send and receive some amount of data because it has to advertise it's presence on the network to allow for routing of traffic to work etc.
If your bandwidth is getting eaten up by a pc that is idling, I would probably just disconnect the network connection or disable the wifi if
it's on wifi until you wish to use it again.
Could I be witnessing the continued download of the playlist file? You said that the playlist can be downloaded manually, and loaded in VLC.
I am wondering if the regular www online player you are using triggers a feed of the playlist and that is what I am experiencing on my meager
3Mbps DL speed? People with 100+Mbps DL feeds probably don't notice anything since the transfer is fast and already completed within seconds?
It'd be nice if there were an easy and obvious way to temporarily blacklist all internet traffic from a computer, and then easily
whitelist only the requests you want.
It'd be nice if there were an easy and obvious way to temporarily blacklist all internet traffic from a computer, and then easily
whitelist only the requests you want.
You may be able to configure the built-in Windows firewall in a similar fashion, but I haven't played with it.
Honestly, copyright is so stinking broken now. Expect another extension in the next year or so because Steamboat Willie is almost up for public domain and we KNOW Disney isn't going to let that junk slide.
I'm glad that there are artists who own the rights to their own music
and let things like qUAntUm RaDio use their music. Home-based recording studios, Bandcamp, and other services are slowly making labels obsolete.
Keep up the great work!
- Lord Gareth
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