Testing MagickaBBS :)
On 01-08-19 19:54, toofargone wrote to All <=-
Testing MagickaBBS :)
Cool! :D
It is! It's really nice! Now I just have to keep prodding apam to do more work on it ;) LOL
Haha, I will likely get more done after school holidays finish, it's been busy with family coming to visit, my development computer died, and wife and I are going away for a week on friday.
On 01-09-19 14:22, toofargone wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Cool! :D
It is! It's really nice! Now I just have to keep prodding apam to do
more work on it ;) LOL
It also finally forced me to learn binkd which wasn't that hard after
all! Once I fixed all my typos that is :>
All running on my pi side by side with mystic. Ah I should probably set
my backups to back up Magica too!
busy with family coming to visit, my development computer died, and wife and I are going away for a week on friday.
I can program in a few languages (C# / VB/.net) but I was
never able to get my head around c/c++ otherwise I'd offer to join your development team :P
On 09 Jan 2019, apam pondered and said...
busy with family coming to visit, my development computer died, a
and I are going away for a week on friday.
Have a good trip / break away. Going far? New Zealand is nice :)
Haha, I would love to go to New Zealand one day or maybe canada. No,
we're just going to the sunshine coast. Not even leaving the state.
I saw a report on our local news a couple of nights back that the
weather, temps, tides etc. had combined in to some massive thing that encouraged bluebottles numbers to swell. Beaches were being closed
etc... so be careful :)
On 01-09-19 20:39, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Hey good sir, you cooling down a bit now?
Been average here today, I did little, watched some USA political
dramas unfold on CNN later in the day, earlier went for a 45 min walk, burned 400 odd calories, investigated some ways to seal up leaks in a concrete fish pond, was dads taxi for my daughter, little bit of BBS
time, watched some nat geo doco on the early internet... not that good, but it was about the changes over the last 50 years.
Dialup got panned by the critics but I think if it were not for that
where would we be now? So thumbs up for early interconnected tech I say
:)
Got a few days reprieve, only 26 today - pleasant with a cool breeze. 29 tomorrow, then the heat's on, into the high 30s over the weekend and the 40s early next week.
Haha, I would love to go to New Zealand one day or maybe canada. No,
we're just going to the sunshine coast. Not even leaving the state.
Dialup got panned by the critics but I think if it were not for that
where would we be now? So thumbs up for early interconnected tech I say
:)
I am (once again) starting to watch a video training series on Udemy
about learning Python... so I'm just (slowly) starting out. Perhaps 2019 will be the year I finally master some of this stuff. I have wanted to
but I have also procrastinated and been spread across other 'squirrel' projects that popped up and appealed also... know the feeling? :)
I am (once again) starting to watch a video training series on Udemy
about learning Python... so I'm just (slowly) starting out. Perhaps 2019
Eventually I coded a thermostat that takes in 7 inputs from temperature sensors within the freezer and one outside... the outside temp sensor is used to monitor the outside temperature and shorten the cycle time on extremly hot days... the freezer is controlled by several relays controlled by the arduino...
Very Cool!
J. Adam Gosselin wrote to Avon <=-
I apologize, I get upset when Millineals make side comments about life before the Internet when they never experienced it themselves. Same
goes for their snide comments about retro games like Wolfenstien 3D or Commander Keen.
On 01-09-19 08:19, J. Adam Gosselin wrote to Avon <=-
What generation were the commentators from? Sounds like a bunch of Millineals that don't know what they are talking about. It would be
like me commenting on vynil records when I grew up on compact cassette tapes.
I apologize, I get upset when Millineals make side comments about life before the Internet when they never experienced it themselves. Same
goes for their snide comments about retro games like Wolfenstien 3D or Commander Keen.
On 01-09-19 20:24, Chai wrote to J. Adam Gosselin <=-
A couple of years ago, I had a Gen Z tell me that her age group
invented emojis, and that older people simply didn't get it. I believe graphical emojis were available in AIM back in the ME/2000 era. Unless
by emoji she simply meant phone emojis, but I believe those existed
around 2k somewhere, +/-. If we really want to be technical, emojis evolved from text emoticons going back to the 70's.
On 01-10-19 06:36, Michael Borthwick wrote to Avon <=-
Best way imo to learn a programming language is to think of a very
small utility that would benefit you and work on it until you've
finished it then move on to another... soon enough you'll be able to tackle the bigger projects.
Yeah, I won't be going in the water. I think the place we're staying has
a pool - which doesn't have sharks in it. If we go to the beach I suspect we'll be staying on the sand, not sure if bluebottles go on the sand too
- I will keep my eye out :)
Got a few days reprieve, only 26 today - pleasant with a cool breeze. 29 tomorrow, then the heat's on, into the high 30s over the weekend and the 40s early next week.
I had a quiet day. We did a bit of shopping in the morning, then
chilled out. Bought hubby a new monitor for his birthday.
time, watched some nat geo doco on the early internet... not that goo but it was about the changes over the last 50 years.
There's certainly been a few! :)
Dialup got us going, hitching a ride on the telecommunication network of the day. We're still doing the same thing, just that the network is for high speed data rather than voice, and a lot more versatile these days!
Dialup got panned by the critics but I think if it were not for that where would we be now? So thumbs up for early interconnected tech I s :)
What generation were the commentators from? Sounds like a bunch of Millineals that don't know what they are talking about. It would be like me commenting on vynil records when I grew up on compact cassette tapes.
I apologize, I get upset when Millineals make side comments about life before the Internet when they never experienced it themselves. Same goes for their snide comments about retro games like Wolfenstien 3D or Commander Keen.
I am (once again) starting to watch a video training series on Udemy about learning Python... so I'm just (slowly) starting out. Perhaps 20 will be the year I finally master some of this stuff. I have wanted to but I have also procrastinated and been spread across other 'squirrel' projects that popped up and appealed also... know the feeling? :)
Yes I got that feeling at my last job every day... I had several major projects to focus on (spent most of my day in the coffee room trying not to do them) all while being taken off the projects (yay) to do stupid tasks for individual people that had no real bearing on the overall project..... some days I would just wake up and think why bother anymore...
As for you're comments, man .. I feel your pain. I often get pulled from task to task in my work role too... and it can feel the same way at times.. so you're not alone.
I remember when Space Invaders came to town and that was a big deal! Queues 10 deep at the local fish and chip shop, and when I got to play, was wiped out in 2 or 3 minutes! :D I was only around 10 at the time.
VCRs and other technologies we take for granted. But we kept ourselves amosed, playing outside, board games, hobbies, watching a bit of TV or reading a book. :)
Nooooo...... teaching someone how to center text in word is now my
highest priority.....
I find at work I am often called upon as the on the spot IT guy who can solve things as i 'know about computer stuff' and for the most part I'm fine helping and doing that. But there are times also that I wonder about the skill level of some of the folks I work with :)
I think people should take the time to do a two weekend short course in common office applications if they don't have a clue.. it will help them in their employment greatly. Unfortunatley i've run into so many that think on the job training is best.
browsers.... Don't expect them to go out and learn complicated specialist in house software :)
Do you think there is less and less of that? I ask as it seems all the focus is on moving to the cloud and trying to reduce dependency on more bespoke systems it seems.
Yes, I remember life before the Internet, video games, ATMs (lots of
time spent sitting in the car waiting for Mum or Dad to do the
banking), VCRs and other technologies we take for granted. But we kept ourselves amosed, playing outside, board games, hobbies, watching a bit
of TV or reading a book. :)
I apologize, I get upset when Millineals make side comments about life before the Internet when they never experienced it themselves. Same goes for their snide comments about retro games like Wolfenstien 3D or Commander Keen.
Oh I agree completely. I think if it were not for the tech of that era
and the developments in gaming etc. that happened they would not be
where they are now. And I also *love* the fact that a lot of that stuff can still work just as well and often in a far less complicated way
than things on offer now :) Yay to BBS :)
Personally I hate cloud based software and services. I'm old fashioned.
If we've got the server running in the building we have full control of the system.
I have a fear that with cloud based services you put all your eggs in someone elses basket.. if they go down for day then there isn't anything you can do about it.... even worse if they go bust and all your data is locked up in their office somewhere... but i'm just paranoid
I just need to spend more time on getting Git to work in my phone so
that I can commit and push directly to Github without having to transfer files from my phone to the PC.
On 01-10-19 17:36, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-
MMmmmm you can have that :) It's mid to late teens here and that's
fine, so long as we get some sun, and that's been kinda hit and miss as
of late.
Oooh nice, what did he get? I'd like to do the same sometime but there
are other more pressing things our house needs done to it that justify
the $$ being spent on that first.
I know nutty eh. It seems in some ways only recently that stuff
happened but the show talked about kids that are at school never
knowing anything different and it kinda blew me away.
Dialup got us going, hitching a ride on the telecommunication network of the day. We're still doing the same thing, just that the network is for high speed data rather than voice, and a lot more versatile these days!
I agree. I also like to play with any new tweaks to said network or
even new versions of networks.
On 01-10-19 19:27, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I also remember these as the sit down gaming desks, then the stand up arcades, I also got the Atari 2600 game and spent hours clocking it.
I bought a light that you can shine up on your ceiling for $3 from
KMart the other day. It has the space invaders characters in multiple colours on it. I may have already posted about it. But it appealed to
my inner child :)
VCRs and other technologies we take for granted. But we kept ourselves amosed, playing outside, board games, hobbies, watching a bit of TV or reading a book. :)
BBSing, at 1200 baud heh :)
On 01-10-19 18:17, Michael Borthwick wrote to Avon <=-
I think people should take the time to do a two weekend short course in common office applications if they don't have a clue.. it will help
them in their employment greatly. Unfortunatley i've run into so many
that think on the job training is best.
But that applies to common applications like word, excel, outlook, web browsers.... Don't expect them to go out and learn complicated
specialist in house software :)
On 01-10-19 05:59, J. Adam Gosselin wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Vk3jed, to J. Adam Gosselin...
Yes, I remember life before the Internet, video games, ATMs (lots of
time spent sitting in the car waiting for Mum or Dad to do the
banking), VCRs and other technologies we take for granted. But we kept ourselves amosed, playing outside, board games, hobbies, watching a bit
of TV or reading a book. :)
Exactly! I am not sure if I am a Gen-X of older Millineal (born on
1982), but I did play outside a lot when I was a kid. I remember that
me and a neighbor kid would play with Legos, toy guns, and ride bikes around the block.
Then when I became a teen and the Internet was starting to become plpular, that all changed.
Avon wrote to J. Adam Gosselin <=-
I've just started to learn and use Git and Github etc, again after a
bit of a play last year. I agree it's a great tool.
Magicka and doors projects. At first, I was frustrated with it and actually gave up running Magicka briefly. :o I realized what mostly frustrated me with it was my inability to remember the commands. Once I got over that (the frustration, not the memory issue!), I actuallly like using it.
Yes, I remember life before the Internet, video games, ATMs (lots of
time spent sitting in the car waiting for Mum or Dad to do the
banking), VCRs and other technologies we take for granted. But we kept ourselves amosed, playing outside, board games, hobbies, watching a bit
of TV or reading a book. :)
Exactly! I am not sure if I am a Gen-X of older Millineal (born on
1982), but I did play outside a lot when I was a kid. I remember that
me and a neighbor kid would play with Legos, toy guns, and ride bikes around the block.
Hmm, VCRs and electronic gaming (both arcade and home console) were
around by then, as were computers like the Vic 20, Apple ][ and
possibly C64. You were already born into the start of the computer
age. :) I'm talking about being born in the late 1960s (1968 in my
case). :)
Then when I became a teen and the Internet was starting to become plpular, that all changed.
In my teens, CDs had just been released (1983, age 15), VCRs became popular, and gaming consoles started to appear, along with handheld
games. The Commodore series of computer (Vic 20 and C64) were
popular, especially among gamers. Many made do with cassette storage, which was slow and tedious. The C64 did have an optional floppy disk, which helped things. :)
I first got online (on air?) on ham packet radio in 1991, followed
closely by BBSs the same year. I first got on the Internet in late
1994, at the age of 26. Back then, the Internet was still primarily
used by universities, and dominated by Unix shell interfaces. Within a couple of years, however, I had transitioned to running IP over PPP
over dialup modems. :) Interestingly, my first experience with IP was back in 1991 over packet radio. I used to run a multiprotocol (AX.25, NET/ROM and IP) node/router using one of the many KA9Q NOS variants running on DOS. :)
KA9Q was interesting software, essentially its own OS, internally multitasking and with a number of built in clients and servers like telnet, SMTP, POP3, FTP, TTYLink (split screen chat). :)
StackFault wrote to Blue White <=-
Auto complete can come very handy in that case. For example on Linux,
if you use zsh with the proper auto-complete config, you can have in-context command reference which is very nice.
Auto complete can come very handy in that case. For example on Linux, if you use zsh with the proper auto-complete config, you can have in-context command reference which is very nice.
I use bash, and it may do that. I can scroll back through commands but I use the cli often enough that it is sometimes many, many commands back. :)
The git experience did teach me something, though... I can go back
through the .history file (I think that is the right name) and find
nearly all of the commands I have used for months. So, if I cannot find it scrolling back, I can look there. :)
StackFault wrote to Blue White <=-
May I suggest using the following:
history | grep <Command you search for>
That way, you get to it very quickly and can just copy-paste it if very very long back.
On 01-11-19 07:18, J. Adam Gosselin wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I will give you point there, we did have a Tandy TRS-80 Color Computer then abd we did have a modem for it, we just never really used it. We just played games on it, and I did learn how to program then.
My dad was a ham radio operator as well and he did set up something to
do with packet radio. I remeber him trying to get something set up with an Atari 1040 STf, and then he switched over to an IBM PC clone with MS-DOS. He used somerhing called JNOS to get his node going. I also
remember him setting up multiple TNCs going into some box that
connected to that same PC, which was a 486 machine at that point. Then
he upgraded the machine again, instslled GNU/Linux on it and set it up
to be a router/server for the house once we got broadband Internet.
On 01-10-19 19:32, Blue White wrote to Avon <=-
Avon wrote to J. Adam Gosselin <=-
I've just started to learn and use Git and Github etc, again after a
bit of a play last year. I agree it's a great tool.
I am also just recently learning it. What forced me to start was
apam's Magicka and doors projects. At first, I was frustrated with it
and actually gave up running Magicka briefly. :o I realized what
mostly frustrated me with it was my inability to remember the commands.
Once I got over that (the frustration, not the memory issue!), I actuallly like using it.
I still prefer package management options but, barring that, I think it
is easier than some of the other roll-it-yourself options.
J. Adam Gosselin wrote to Avon <=-
I apologize, I get upset when Millineals make side comments aboutlife JAG> before the Internet when they never experienced it themselves. Same JAG> goes for their snide comments about retro games like
Wolfenstien 3D or JAG> Commander Keen.
A couple of years ago, I had a Gen Z tell me that her age group invented emojis, and that older people simply didn't get it.
I felt really old.
LinkedIn learning is quite good. I have not used it as much as I should have but when I got a premium membership I discovered it opened up access to all the acquired Linda.com content.
KA9Q was interesting software, essentially its own OS, internally multitasking and with a number of built in clients and servers like telnet, SMTP, POP3, FTP, TTYLink (split screen chat). :)
On 01-17-19 08:57, Kurt Weiske wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Tom Jennings ran The Little Garden ISP in San Francisco on KA9Q back in the 90s. Amazing to think about running a production network on 40 mhz 386s running DOS.
On 01-30-19 15:03, Michael Borthwick wrote to All <=-
blah.
blah.
Gee, I've been slack this weekend - or otherwise occupied. Saturday was dominated by sport, starting with the Parkrun (5k) first thing in the morning, then a fast 1k cross country in the afternoon. After that, settled down to watch the election coverage.
Today, did some track training, felt the effects of the previous hard
day and decided rest was more appropriate than gym, so I don't overdo things. And had a quiet afternoon since then. Finally catching up on
BBS mail. :)
On 05-20-19 12:34, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-
It doesn't sound very slack to me, it sounds busy busy... good to see
you can fit in some BBS stuff.. I certainly know the feeling of
juggling stuff right now.
@PATH: 1/151 3/100 4/100 106 1/133 100
I was super excited to watch Picard today.
:)
@PATH: 1/151 3/100 4/100 106 1/133 100
This has to be the best SEEN-BY path I have seen today :)
@PATH: 1/151 3/100 4/100 106 1/133 100
This has to be the best SEEN-BY path I have seen today :)
That did arrive in your dupe base I hope?
@PATH: 1/151 3/100 4/100 106 1/133 100
This has to be the best SEEN-BY path I have seen today :)
That did arrive in your dupe base I hope?
I saw two dupes so far
@PATH: 1/151 3/100 4/100 2/100
and
@PATH: 1/151 3/100
Some happenin' binkp servers there.. :)
@PATH: 1/151 3/100 4/100 106 1/133 100
:)
This has to be the best SEEN-BY path I have seen today :)
Look at all those Frequent Flyer Miles its earned... :)
On 27 Jan 2020 at 06:10p, Black Panther pondered and said...
Look at all those Frequent Flyer Miles its earned... :)
It would be an interesting thought experiment to set up an echo
that has but one node up and down in the chain so that we can
create a really really long SEEN-BY ... does that appeal to
those here :) ?
You mean PATH?
If that works we can start to introduce different ways if delivery on
the path. HAM, modem, pre-EMSI ... UUCP?
Another idea I had/have kicking around would be how to structure things so that each node in the network could be meshed to others (at least one) as well as a HUB so as to build further resilience in comms.
It would be an interesting thought experiment to set up an echo that has but one node up and down in the chain so that we can create a really really long SEEN-BY ... does that appeal to those here :) ?
On 28 Jan 2020, Avon said the following...
It would be an interesting thought experiment to set up an echo
that has but one node up and down in the chain so that we can
create a really really long SEEN-BY ... does that appeal to
those here :) ?
That would be interesting. It sounds like it would be a pain to
get everything set up...
So I started building an FTN hub with cockroachdb. cockroachdb if you
are not aware, is an RDBMS (like mysql), but distributed in that no node is a master. But quorum is required for the DB to function.
I particuarly like it because the comms between the nodes of the DB was secured with SSL, and SSL was required to connect (it uses postgreSQL as the protocol).
My idea was that nodes could post to the DB (via binkd at a minimum) to any node of the DB, and collect mail (via binkd too) from any node of
the DB - but it would also be possible to pick up packets using other protocols (like http, perhaps nntp, smtp, etc).
I also envisioned that we could join zones together, so that anybody
using the hub, could get any echo that was shared to it. (And yes, zone fudgieness would be taken care of...)
I stopped working on it because of lack of time, and other things I started playing with. Perhaps I should pick it up again. (I think I got
Kinda would be cool - it would be 1980's technology, on 2020 technology
By: Avon to Oli on Wed Jan 29 2020 08:32 am
Another idea I had/have kicking around would be how to structure thin that each node in the network could be meshed to others (at least one well as a HUB so as to build further resilience in comms.
Sysop: | echicken |
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Location: | Toronto, Ontario |
Users: | 2,224 |
Nodes: | 6 (0 / 6) |
Uptime: | 07:37:08 |
Calls: | 14,143 |
Files: | 295 |
Messages: | 551,243 |