• Boxes, Plants and Lamps

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Sat Oct 31 20:43:47 2020
    That's today's efforts in a nutshell.

    Started off by packing up stuff for my kids that has come down from the North Island from my mother-in-laws estate. We then ran around the city dropping stuff into three children and ended up with a less cluttered house and an
    empty car... so what to do? Fill it up again :)

    Next off to the local hardware store / garden center which entailed buying several random items to help finish off a reno project (we're doing one room
    at a time here at home) for an upstairs bedroom. Bought a door stop (ooohh)
    and one of those plastic barrel fittings you screw into the base of a ceiling lap to hold it in place (ahhh) along with yet another doorstop for the lounge door (we were on a roll by then :)

    Next to the garden center, bought some sweet peas to plant outside near a trellis, then a pumpkin plant to grow over the summer months and some pretty yellow/purple flowering shrub my wife really liked.

    A visit to the cafe for some coffee and cake and the day is mostly done.

    Have also been working on setting up a Win10 system for the lounge so I can
    get the PC back I want to use for Agency and the 1/100 HUB. So a case of one step at a time to then get back to where I was working on before Bathurst arrived a few weeks ago.

    That's the day so far.

    How's your day going?

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  • From Chaise@21:1/999 to Avon on Sat Oct 31 01:54:57 2020
    Upgrading Cisco router this morning and helping kids carve pumpkins this evening. Good fun..

    I e-mailed you an fsxNet app last night. No rush, but I think I got it all working. Just need a proper node number.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Chaise on Sat Oct 31 23:17:12 2020
    On 30 Oct 2020 at 09:54p, Chaise pondered and said...

    Upgrading Cisco router this morning and helping kids carve pumpkins this evening. Good fun..

    Halloween here tonight, but it's cold and wet so I expect not too many to
    call.

    I e-mailed you an fsxNet app last night. No rush, but I think I got it all working. Just need a proper node number.

    Yep got it, will be in touch :)

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to Avon on Sat Oct 31 14:18:14 2020
    Hello Avon!

    On 31 Oct 2020, Avon said the following...
    That's today's efforts in a nutshell.

    Sounds like you've been quite busy! =)

    How's your day going?

    I've written a simple a systemd service utilizing socat to be able connect to the modem over the network (Telnet or similar). Inspired by:

    http://www.dest-unreach.org/socat/doc/socat-ttyovertcp.txt

    Thinking of launching a socat instance on my Windows box (or does anyone know of something similar presenting a COM port?) so that I can run SyncTerm from there and dial out. Instead of SSHing to the Linux box using PuTTY and then using minicom or qodem from there.

    (For some reason, despite changing character coding settings in PuTTY and selecting ANSI, ANSI usually gets borked in minicom for me; qodem works fine with ANSI but crashes all the time due to communications assertions...)

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to Zip on Sat Oct 31 06:51:14 2020
    Thinking of launching a socat instance on my Windows box (or does anyone know of something similar presenting a COM port?) so that I can run SyncTerm from there and dial out. Instead of SSHing to the Linux box using PuTTY and then using minicom or qodem from there.

    I'm not sure what you mean by presenting a com port. Are you trying to use a dial-up modem? SyncTerm does support dial-up modems as far as I know although I haven't used one for 20 or so years.

    (For some reason, despite changing character coding settings in PuTTY and selecting ANSI, ANSI usually gets borked in minicom for me; qodem works fine with ANSI but crashes all the time due to communications assertions...)

    When I had a CP437 or LATIN-1 terminal I used to use minicom with good results but since switching to a utf8 terminal it looks terrible and I have never found a solution for that. I don't think minicom has had any development in a long time and likely will not get any more updates.

    When BBSing I use plain old telnet or ssh and that works well. If I need zmodem and friends I use syncterm or the telnet terminal in nodespy.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Avon on Sun Nov 1 10:16:00 2020
    How's your day going?

    Marginally interesting. I got a call late yesterday the scanner round at the ìchurch wasn't working. Told them I'd have a look at it today. So duly ìtrundled in about 11, using a key handed to me recently. Of course having ìgotten in the alarm system eventually went off. Requiring a phone call to ìfind out what I thought was the code wasn't working.... I had all the right ìnumbers in the wrong sequence, I hate that, it tends to make it harder to ìremember right next time for me....

    Anyway since no one else was there and they're in danger of actually having ìattendees, I took the opportunity to re-lay the AV setup in the church space. ì Basically just disassemble it, drag it all right down to the back of the ìchurch space, hook it all up again, and check the cameras have enough zoom to ìstill work effectively. Disassembly was straight forward, pushed the tables ìaround, mounted up the two permanent cameras, unpacked a new usb extension to ìhook up the now most distant camera and.... presto... I haven't pick up an ìUSB A to A, its an A to B. Walk over to the local outlet of the store duly ìreturn the one I have after packing it up again. What I had was a 5M passive, ìand of course they have no passive A to A, so I instead opt to take a 10M ìactive. Then I run into problem #2 which is that one of the frame grabbers ìthat recently arrived turns out to be DOA, so I'm scratching my head plugging ìit into various ports to see if it will come to life, which it doesn't and I ìend up using the spare. So far so good.

    The sound is supplied via a large sound desk that handles all the room audio, ìand then is run via a small mixer into the computer. Theres and extra set of ìleads stuck in it to make the original run out into the middle of the room, ìso I pack them up, and move the small mixer input leads onto the mixing desk ìend as its within spitting distance now. Figuring I best be trying the sound ìbefore D-Day being tomorrow, or today as I'm writing this. I find I've got a ìgreat deal of hum going on, but I can't get any real audio from the system. I ìscratch my head a great deal for this one, poke around with a variety of ìsettings and the little mixer but in the end no change. I call it quits and ìlet the real audio guy know I've created a new problem for him to look at ìthis morning. By this time the Big Man has arrived...

    I suspect he's still using the WiFi on his mac, the ip address has changed ìand the printer/scanner which is using SMB to delivery the scan document ìcan't find him. Check the settings, nope its on wire, ip address is the ìsame, I fixed it previously. Somewhat confused I have a look at the scanner ìand see someones been playing with its settings, and trying to have it use ìemail for delivery something its steadfastly refused to do for me. Can't ìfind anything obvious, pop a document in it, scan it, and its delivered as ìexpected to the correct location on the mac. Shrug, its just working. No ìanswers. So thats the state of play.

    Spec


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  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to Avon on Sun Nov 1 03:54:00 2020
    Next off to the local hardware store / garden center which entailed buyingseveral random items to help finish off a reno project (we're
    doing one roomat a time here at home) for an upstairs bedroom. Bought a door stop (ooohh)and one of those plastic barrel fittings you screw into the base of a ceilinglap to hold it in place (ahhh) along with yet
    another doorstop for the loungedoor (we were on a roll by then :)

    I just about spit out my coffee when you mentioned the door stops. lol! I love going to the hardware store, even if I leave with nothing but a stinkin' door stop. Whats the name of the shrub your wife picked out? Sounds like a Spirea but not sure if those grow where you are. That or a weigela cultivar (red prince, sonic boom) .. but I'd love to know the name.

    -tG

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to Al on Sun Nov 1 13:03:18 2020
    Hello Al!

    Thank you for your reply!

    On 31 Oct 2020, Al said the following...
    I'm not sure what you mean by presenting a com port. Are you trying to
    use a dial-up modem? SyncTerm does support dial-up modems as far as I
    know although I

    Yep, however the modem is connected to a headless Linux box (the BBS server)
    so I want to use it over the network (without SSH). :)

    When I had a CP437 or LATIN-1 terminal I used to use minicom with good results but since switching to a utf8 terminal it looks terrible and I have never found
    a solution for that. I don't think minicom has had any development in a

    Yep, my problem exactly...

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to The Godfather on Mon Nov 2 02:06:34 2020
    On 31 Oct 2020 at 11:54p, The Godfather pondered and said...

    I just about spit out my coffee when you mentioned the door stops. lol!
    I love going to the hardware store, even if I leave with nothing but a stinkin' door stop. Whats the name of the shrub your wife picked out? Sounds like a Spirea but not sure if those grow where you are. That or
    a weigela cultivar (red prince, sonic boom) .. but I'd love to know the name.

    It was a Osteospermum and I think it was one called 'purple sun' I'll need to check but it's dark now and zzz and then a work day beckon :)

    I should have also mentioned we bought 3 x wall lamps for out lounge and the plan is to get an electrician in to wire them up in a few weeks time... also part of the home reno bender we're on right now :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Zip on Mon Nov 2 02:10:03 2020
    On 31 Oct 2020 at 10:18a, Zip pondered and said...

    Sounds like you've been quite busy! =)

    Thanks yes it has been a busy weekend. Today was lawns, moving stuff into the roof/attic ... what else, we had some of our kids stop by to visit, I phaffed around on a HP computer which I am 99% sorted for using it as a system to
    watch streaming shows on the telly with... once done I get the current PC
    we're using back and I can start working on moving Agency over to Linux.

    I've written a simple a systemd service utilizing socat to be able
    connect to the modem over the network (Telnet or similar). Inspired by:

    http://www.dest-unreach.org/socat/doc/socat-ttyovertcp.txt

    Busy days for you too :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Spectre on Mon Nov 2 02:16:50 2020

    On 01 Nov 2020 at 05:16a, Spectre pondered and said...

    The sound is supplied via a large sound desk that handles all the room audio, ìand then is run via a small mixer into the computer. Theres and extra set of ìleads stuck in it to make the original run out into the middle of the room, ìso I pack them up, and move the small mixer input leads onto the mixing desk ìend as its within spitting distance now. Figuring I best be trying the sound ìbefore D-Day being tomorrow, or
    today as I'm writing this. I find I've got a ìgreat deal of hum going
    on, but I can't get any real audio from the system. I ìscratch my head a great deal for this one, poke around with a variety of ìsettings and the little mixer but in the end no change. I call it quits and ìlet the real audio guy know I've created a new problem for him to look at ìthis morning. By this time the Big Man has arrived...

    So the audio from the PC into the mixer could have been low or perhaps a bad earth there? Just a guess..

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  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to Avon on Sun Nov 1 14:39:35 2020
    It was a Osteospermum and I think it was one called 'purple sun' I'll
    need tocheck but it's dark now and zzz and then a work day beckon :)


    Oh those are nice! I'll have to see if they have those at the nurseries in spring/summer time frame. Doesn't look like they support our weather zone though. They like zones 9-11 so likely not available here :( We do have colorful varieties of daises and Echinacea that do well here and look similiar.

    I should have also mentioned we bought 3 x wall lamps for out lounge and theplan is to get an electrician in to wire them up in a few weeks
    time... alsopart of the home reno bender we're on right now :)

    When we have the money, we always have something to do around here. We gutted anb remodeled our kids bathroom last year, it was a lot work but looks great now. Those are always fun projects to do, especially when it all comes together right :) Have fun!

    -tG

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Avon on Mon Nov 2 16:39:00 2020
    So the audio from the PC into the mixer could have been low or
    perhaps a bad earth there? Just a guess..

    Well the audio was certainly low.... as to being non-existant... there are ìalready known earth loop hum problems going on, but no one has any idea how ìto get rid of them. It usually gets a low filter to try alleviate it. It ìturns out the move was to much for the power supply for the pc side mixer. ìIts what I consider to be a weird 17VAC x2 power supply. And it's ìdelivering.... NOTHING... and I'm guessing the hum is just the empty load on ìthe pc inputs.

    What gets interesting in my mind anyway is a supply delivering 17VAC x2 @ ì200mA. Thats weird current even if you still rectify it on board into DC, ìplus the device will supply something called "ghost power +54v". So my guess ìis that 2x17VAC out of phase helps supply the 54 if its needed but we never ìuse it. And one of the 17s becomes the onboard DC as well. Shrug.

    I thought one of my old AC modem power supplies might do the job, but alas ìshe's some 8 volts short of the requirement, even if at way higher current.

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Zip on Mon Nov 2 17:02:00 2020
    Yep, however the modem is connected to a headless Linux box (the BBS server) so I want to use it over the network (without SSH). :)

    I'm not going to be any direct help, but... I have seen software to do this ìkicking around, I came across it while I was looking for something else. For ìthe life of me can't think what. I'm guessing the "server" end is just ìredirection to the serial port, and the rest is enough to fool the client ìinto thinking its talk directly to the same. Virtual Serial ports or some ìsuch? Ponder... sorry, can't think of any more..

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Avon on Mon Nov 2 17:04:00 2020
    I should have also mentioned we bought 3 x wall lamps for out lounge and

    This made me chuckle, and maybe its just an Aussie thing... is the "out ìlounge" an extension to the Out House? :P

    Spec


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Spectre on Tue Nov 3 01:32:02 2020
    On 02 Nov 2020 at 12:04p, Spectre pondered and said...

    I should have also mentioned we bought 3 x wall lamps for out lounge

    This made me chuckle, and maybe its just an Aussie thing... is the "out ìlounge" an extension to the Out House? :P

    No it's just me typing too fast and not proofing, it should have been our... and the blinking r is right next to t on the keyboard :)

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to Spectre on Mon Nov 2 14:29:26 2020
    Hello Spec!

    On 02 Nov 2020, Spectre said the following...
    fool the clientìinto thinking its talk directly to the same. Virtual Serial ports or someìsuch? Ponder... sorry, can't think of any more..

    Thanks! Yep, I'll keep my eyes open... :)

    Best regards
    Zip

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