• 132x37

    From apam@21:1/182 to All on Wed Mar 10 18:00:10 2021
    Hey

    I just finished adding 132x37 ansi screens to happyland.

    Unfortunatly neither netrunner (prealpha) or syncterm (1.1) seem to
    support telnet (or ssh) window size detection, which is what Talisman
    uses to decide which theme to send.

    MagiTerm works (so does microsoft telnet), but most people prefer other clients, so if you want to see the 132x37 talisman can be told to force a particular screen size in your user settings.

    You will need to set your terminal mode to the screen size you set (and currently only default 80x25 and 132x37 have screens on my bbs).

    Andrew

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  • From Avon@21:1/100 to apam on Wed Mar 10 21:08:56 2021
    Hi apam,

    Hey

    Hi :)

    I just finished adding 132x37 ansi screens to happyland.

    Cool... I still need to add some normal sized screens to my BBS so I am waayyy behind you on this one :)

    Unfortunatly neither netrunner (prealpha) or syncterm (1.1) seem to support telnet (or ssh) window size detection, which is what Talisman
    uses to decide which theme to send.

    Bummer hummer floyd. I wonder what they do?

    MagiTerm works (so does microsoft telnet), but most people prefer
    other clients, so if you want to see the 132x37 talisman can be told
    to force a particular screen size in your user settings.

    You will need to set your terminal mode to the screen size you set
    (and currently only default 80x25 and 132x37 have screens on my bbs).

    I hope your having Mine?? fun. I confess the post about the server sorta lost me but it sounded like Minecraft on steriods (I think) :)

    Best, Paul.

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  • From apam@21:1/182 to Avon on Wed Mar 10 18:21:10 2021
    Unfortunatly neither netrunner (prealpha) or syncterm (1.1) seem
    to
    support telnet (or ssh) window size detection, which is what
    Talisman
    uses to decide which theme to send.

    Bummer hummer floyd. I wonder what they do?

    I'm not sure. I just had a thought that maybe syncterm is sending 132x36
    as I didn't disable the status bar. Netrunner behaves badly, it makes
    Talisman think the screen height is 1 line or something like that so you constantly get pauses.

    I'll have to test again once I finish this.

    But it seems mystic sysops have a prompt at start up to select a wide
    screen theme if you want to use it.

    I hope your having Mine?? fun. I confess the post about the server
    sorta lost me but it sounded like Minecraft on steriods (I think) :)

    I wouldn't say minecraft on steroids, just different really. Minecraft
    has lots of things minetest doesn't, but vice versa is true too. I
    actually prefer minetest, because minecraft when you play on peaceful
    mode half the items are unattainable (due to needing to kill monsters).

    Monsters annoy me. :P

    Andrew

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  • From apam@21:1/182 to apam on Wed Mar 10 18:24:06 2021
    I'm not sure. I just had a thought that maybe syncterm is sending
    132x36
    as I didn't disable the status bar.

    That was it. It doesn't show the welcome screen in 132x37 but not sure if
    it's because it switches?

    Who knows.

    Andrew

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  • From Alpha@21:1/182 to apam on Thu Mar 11 01:23:03 2021
    I just finished adding 132x37 ansi screens to happyland.

    Woah, nice wide menus, apam!

    It's still pretty odd to me to see a BBS screens at these "new" widths.
    It's like I have to re-train myself where to look, LOL.

    I'm also like -- that's a lot of screen real estate to fill, and could be
    a fun to create.

    It'll be interesting to see if wider screens get increased preference
    (seems like they are more than a novelity), particuary for new BBSers?

    Cheers,




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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to apam on Wed Mar 10 06:46:44 2021
    But it seems mystic sysops have a prompt at start up to select a wide screen theme if you want to use it.

    And the ones who don't, TOXIC @ toxic.oldskoolbbs.com:1337 seem to simply disconnect if you have your terminal set to 80x25. I just mention this because I've also been trying to figure out how term size works in Mystic, SyncTerm and Netrunner... maybe the way TOXIC acts could help you learn how these programs and BBS softwares are acting. (I believe the reason why is that TOXIC *only* has a 132column theme.



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  • From apam@21:1/182 to Alpha on Thu Mar 11 09:33:04 2021
    It'll be interesting to see if wider screens get increased preference
    (seems like they are more than a novelity), particuary for new BBSers?

    Yes, I do wonder if anyone will use the wide screen thing, I suppose some might, but who knows.

    Anyway, they were kind of fun to make, and I can say HappyLand does wide
    screen now lol! I'm one of the cool kids :P

    Andrew

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  • From The Godfather@21:1/165 to apam on Thu Mar 11 07:59:31 2021
    But it seems mystic sysops have a prompt at start up to select a wide screen theme if you want to use it.

    Apam,

    I may be misunderstanding your issue with 132x37, however even with Mystic Netrunner/Syncterm/Magiterm need set at 132x37 prior to telnetting into a BBS that has 132x37 ansi's. Mystic can be run as two themes, as mine does, 80x25 and 132x37, but If a user dials in with the terminal setting at 80x25 and then selects the 132x37, it's not a pretty experience. Because I had already gone with two themes as my "choice" I use Mystic's access codes to prevent an 80x25 caller from selecting the 132x37 theme. In config its !x80 or !x132. This will prevent the option their terminal is not set to support even showing the option.

    Mystic also has auto detect where it will detect what terminal size the users is set to. Then it chooses the menu's and ansi's to use this way:
    80x25 users see: thisfilename.ans
    132x37 users see: thisfilename.c132.ans
    Same with menus
    80x25: thismenu.mnu
    132x37: thismenu.c132.mnu

    MPL's can be written for dual support, using TermSizeX >=132 then, else..I probably use the TermSizeX function moreso now then just about any other, as I adjust all of my .mpl's and ansi's to both 132 and 80 columns.

    You should check out the progress on www.theunderground.us:10023 's 132x37 and 80x25 modes. I keep plugging away at it, almost daily.

    Eventually, once complete, I'll be moving TUG to a linux box, and merging both themes into a singular "auto detect" one, but want all of my scripts working as expected prior to doing so.

    I'll have to fire up my copy of MagiTerm and check out your work soon!

    -tG

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to apam on Thu Mar 11 16:47:42 2021
    It'll be interesting to see if wider screens get increased preference (seems like they are more than a novelity), particuary for new BBSers?

    Yes, I do wonder if anyone will use the wide screen thing, I suppose some might, but who knows.

    I appreciate the folks who are designing systems AROUND 132c... and I think if a system is fully customized, especially Smooths work [ANSI artist], that might be exciting. Currently there is one ALL 132x37 bbs I know of:

    T0XIC @ toxic.oldskoolbbs.com:1337

    And The Underground is pretty nicely modified to the 16:9 size @ www.theunderground.us:10023...

    And I know Smooth is working away creating a full 132c BBS - that is gonna be a crazy ride when he's thru... but those other two are both pretty impressive, its just not my 'thing' - But I'd certainly use them if nice systems at that aspect ratio come out.



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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to paulie420 on Fri Mar 12 19:44:12 2021
    gonna be a crazy ride when he's thru... but those other two are both pretty impressive, its just not my 'thing' - But I'd certainly use them
    if nice systems at that aspect ratio come out.

    It does seem pretty neat, even if I haven't called around like you have to actually _see_ the boards.

    I'm certainly tempted to try it myself, but I still have about 122 daily
    ANSIs to take care of, first.

    And, hoo boy do I have no intention of doing a c132 calendar project.

    Well, okay, a _monthly_ one wouldn't be so bad, but I think I'd prefer having my ANSI production being 1 or 2 a month rather than 30+.

    But I digress. I'm happy that people are doing these alternate ratios, and alternate presentations. I know BBSing technology isn't likely to go VR any time soon, but it's nice to have some more interesting options.

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  • From Digital Man@21:1/183 to apam on Fri Mar 12 23:10:25 2021
    Re: 132x37
    By: apam to All on Wed Mar 10 2021 06:00 pm

    Hey

    I just finished adding 132x37 ansi screens to happyland.

    Unfortunatly neither netrunner (prealpha) or syncterm (1.1) seem to
    support telnet (or ssh) window size detection, which is what Talisman
    uses to decide which theme to send.

    SyncTERM does (and has for a long time) reported the window size via Telnet:

    3/12 11:04:37p Node 2 received telnet cmd: WILL Negotiate About Window Size
    3/12 11:04:37p Node 2 received telnet sub-negotiation command: Negotiate About Window Size (9 bytes)
    3/12 11:04:37p Node 2 received telnet window size: 132x52
    3/12 11:04:37p Node 2 received telnet cmd: WON'T New Environment Option
    3/12 11:04:37p Node 2 received telnet sub-negotiation command: Terminal Type (14 bytes)
    3/12 11:04:37p Node 2 received telnet terminal type: syncterm
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  • From apam@21:1/182 to Digital Man on Sat Mar 13 17:43:12 2021
    SyncTERM does (and has for a long time) reported the window size via
    Telnet:

    Yep, I worked out I hadn't disabled the status line and was expecting
    132x37 to be reported in that mode, but because of the status line I
    suppose it was reporting 132x36.

    It's working for me now.

    I don't know what was happening with netrunner though, as apparently
    that's supposed to send window size too, but don't care enough to figure
    it out.

    Andrew

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  • From Digital Man@21:1/183 to apam on Fri Mar 12 23:50:28 2021
    Re: 132x37
    By: apam to Digital Man on Sat Mar 13 2021 05:43 pm

    SyncTERM does (and has for a long time) reported the window size via Telnet:

    Yep, I worked out I hadn't disabled the status line and was expecting
    132x37 to be reported in that mode, but because of the status line I
    suppose it was reporting 132x36.

    It's working for me now.

    Gotcha.
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  • From Digital Man@21:1/183 to apam on Fri Mar 12 23:51:32 2021
    Re: 132x37
    By: Digital Man to apam on Fri Mar 12 2021 11:50 pm

    Re: 132x37
    By: apam to Digital Man on Sat Mar 13 2021 05:43 pm

    SyncTERM does (and has for a long time) reported the window size via Telnet:

    Yep, I worked out I hadn't disabled the status line and was expecting 132x37 to be reported in that mode, but because of the status line I suppose it was reporting 132x36.

    It's working for me now.

    Gotcha.

    Oh, and ANSI-based terminal/window size detection also works (in SSH and RLogin modes too).
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  • From apam@21:1/182 to Digital Man on Sat Mar 13 18:14:26 2021
    Oh, and ANSI-based terminal/window size detection also works (in SSH
    and RLogin modes too).

    Hmm, I didn't know about ANSI-based terminal window size detection. I'll
    have to look into that.

    I am just using NAWS in telnet and the one built into SSH, but it might
    be good to have a fallback.

    Andrew

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Adept on Fri Mar 12 23:41:46 2021
    gonna be a crazy ride when he's thru... but those other two are both pretty impressive, its just not my 'thing' - But I'd certainly use th if nice systems at that aspect ratio come out.

    And, hoo boy do I have no intention of doing a c132 calendar project.

    Well, okay, a _monthly_ one wouldn't be so bad, but I think I'd prefer having my ANSI production being 1 or 2 a month rather than 30+.


    LOL - yes, especially since the 132c mode will give you so much more room to work with/ON. :P



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  • From apam@21:1/182 to Digital Man on Sat Mar 13 18:57:26 2021
    Oh, and ANSI-based terminal/window size detection also works (in SSH
    and RLogin modes too).

    Thankyou for that!

    I can now correctly detect the terminal size on both SSH and telnet in
    both syncterm and netrunner.

    Netrunner for some reason sets NAWS height to 0, so was pretty unusable,
    so now I can check if it's 0 and discard it and use the ANSI dected
    instead.

    Andrew

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  • From Fusion@21:1/183 to apam on Sat Mar 13 01:51:07 2021
    Re: 132x37
    By: apam to Digital Man on Sat Mar 13 2021 06:57 pm

    Netrunner for some reason sets NAWS height to 0, so was pretty unusable, so now I can check if it's 0 and discard it and use the ANSI dected instead.

    i suppose some of this is why "pre release beta test" is plastered in capital letters on the welcome screen hehe

    i was having some problems with 256 color mode as well. as was i having problems with the scroll region in syncterm. (i test everything against xterm and windows terminal to be sure i'm not crazy lol)

    oh well, work around the qwerks i guess
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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to paulie420 on Sat Mar 13 09:55:33 2021
    LOL - yes, especially since the 132c mode will give you so much more
    room to work with/ON. :P

    132x37 = 4884
    80x25 = 2000

    So over twice as many characters to work with.

    Yep, yep, that's a bigger canvas.

    I assume there might be some things that are more efficient, but I'll defer
    to The Godfather or anyone else who has actual experience with the format.

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  • From apam@21:1/182 to Fusion on Sat Mar 13 20:35:08 2021
    i suppose some of this is why "pre release beta test" is plastered in capital letters on the welcome screen hehe

    Mine just says beta 22? Maybe you have a newer version?

    I don't think alpha and beta really mean much anymore though. Seems to be
    used more as a way to kind of cop out from having bugs, "well it is
    alpha"..

    In the case of mystic and I assume netrunner too, it seems to be in a
    perpetual alpha state, and now alpha is kind of considered "release"
    where "pre-alpha" is considered "beta".

    I'm not saying one way is right or wrong, but with so many different interpretations on what is alpha and what is beta and what is not, it's
    kind of hard to tell what's supposed to be stable...

    And really, everything is supposed to be stable.. bugs aren't intentional
    and are found in "release" as well.

    Maybe alpha and beta would mean something if we had a quality assurance department, and a large pool of testers, but this is BBS land.

    Oh well

    Andrew

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to apam on Sat Mar 13 06:22:43 2021
    Re: 132x37
    By: apam to Fusion on Sat Mar 13 2021 08:35 pm

    i suppose some of this is why "pre release beta test" is plastered in capital letters on the welcome screen hehe

    Mine just says beta 22? Maybe you have a newer version?

    I don't think alpha and beta really mean much anymore though. Seems to be used more as a way to kind of cop out from having bugs, "well it is
    alpha"..

    In the case of mystic and I assume netrunner too, it seems to be in a perpetual alpha state, and now alpha is kind of considered "release"
    where "pre-alpha" is considered "beta".

    I'm not saying one way is right or wrong, but with so many different interpretations on what is alpha and what is beta and what is not, it's
    kind of hard to tell what's supposed to be stable...

    And really, everything is supposed to be stable.. bugs aren't intentional and are found in "release" as well.

    Maybe alpha and beta would mean something if we had a quality assurance department, and a large pool of testers, but this is BBS land.

    Oh well

    Andrew

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  • From Digital Man@21:1/183 to apam on Sat Mar 13 09:26:31 2021
    Re: 132x37
    By: apam to Digital Man on Sat Mar 13 2021 06:57 pm

    Oh, and ANSI-based terminal/window size detection also works (in SSH
    and RLogin modes too).

    Thankyou for that!

    I can now correctly detect the terminal size on both SSH and telnet in
    both syncterm and netrunner.

    Netrunner for some reason sets NAWS height to 0, so was pretty unusable,
    so now I can check if it's 0 and discard it and use the ANSI dected
    instead.

    Awesome!

    Yeah, "back in the day", ANSI was the only method available for auto-detection of a BBS user's terminal size.
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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to apam on Sat Mar 13 09:26:15 2021
    Oh, and ANSI-based terminal/window size detection also works (in SSH and RLogin modes too).

    Hmm, I didn't know about ANSI-based terminal window size detection. I'll have to look into that.

    I am just using NAWS in telnet and the one built into SSH, but it might
    be good to have a fallback.
    Andrew

    I'm not knowledgeable with how these things work, especially when programming for these things, but I know for a fact that g00r00 said he recently upgraded how NAWS works. I totally remember him and NuSkooler talking about how it was better for what Nu was trying to implement with ENiGMA.5... sorry to open my big mouth w/o knowledge, but I do believe theres some support in Netrunner, altho thats all I know.



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to apam on Sat Mar 13 09:27:43 2021
    Oh, and ANSI-based terminal/window size detection also works (in SSH and RLogin modes too).

    Thankyou for that!

    I can now correctly detect the terminal size on both SSH and telnet in both syncterm and netrunner.

    Jeez, disregard my previous message - you've already got the real data. :/



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Adept on Sat Mar 13 20:50:19 2021
    LOL - yes, especially since the 132c mode will give you so much more room to work with/ON. :P

    132x37 = 4884
    80x25 = 2000

    So over twice as many characters to work with.

    I assume there might be some things that are more efficient, but I'll defer to The Godfather or anyone else who has actual experience with the format.

    I'm still digging my heels in and saying no way. 80x25; thats what I know, thats what I love... :P



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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to paulie420 on Sun Mar 14 10:06:36 2021
    I'm still digging my heels in and saying no way. 80x25; thats what I
    know, thats what I love... :P

    Hah! And without that impulse, how much of the BBSing scene would be left? :)

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  • From NuSkooler@21:1/121 to apam on Sun Mar 14 12:14:55 2021

    apam around Sunday, March 14th...
    I don't know what was happening with netrunner though, as apparently that's supposed to send window size too, but don't care enough to figure it out.

    FWIW, I mentioned this to g00r00 a month or two ago and he added support. You'll need the very latest alphas. Previous versions did not support NAWS at all. I'd have to double check when over SSH, but I think it was alaways negotiating there (note: via SSH negotiations, not NAWS). There is also the trick of moving to 999,999 and checking querying position, etc.





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