• Re: Got the second vaccin

    From Ron Lauzon@21:1/192 to Spectre on Mon May 3 08:35:22 2021
    Spectre wrote to Utopian Galt <=-

    Ponder, wonder what type of reaction it is. Something like a allergy or something else....

    The vaccine "tricks" your body into thinking that you got COVID and makes it produce the anti-bodies. So the people who would be critically sicked by
    COVID will have a bad reaction to the vaccine since their bodies will react
    in the same way.


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Ron Lauzon on Tue May 4 17:13:00 2021
    The vaccine "tricks" your body into thinking that you got COVID and makes it produce the anti-bodies. So the people who would be critically
    sicked by COVID will have a bad reaction to the vaccine since their
    bodies will react in the same way.

    I'm no expert at anything really, but the 2 versions of reaction to other ìvaccines I've been made aware of are essentially either the "allergic" ìmeaning for some reason something in the contents of it sets you off, peanuts ìanyone? The other being an over reactive immune response. Neither of these ìsee to fit the blood clot bill.. shrug

    Spec


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  • From Dr. What@21:1/194 to Spectre on Tue May 4 08:35:00 2021
    Spectre wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    I'm no expert at anything really, but the 2 versions of reaction to
    other vaccines I've been made aware of are essentially either the "allergic" meaning for some reason something in the contents of it sets you off, peanuts anyone? The other being an over reactive immune
    response. Neither of these see to fit the blood clot bill.. shrug

    A new study by The Salk Institute has shown that COVID is a vascular,
    not respiratory, disease and that the spike protein is the main culprit.

    The study also shows that the vaccines, which use large doses of the spike proteins, damage arteries and lungs without any help from COVID.

    It's not a large leap to see why blood clots are associated with the vaccines at this point.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Ron Lauzon on Wed May 5 20:22:00 2021
    On 05-03-21 08:35, Ron Lauzon wrote to Spectre <=-

    Spectre wrote to Utopian Galt <=-

    Ponder, wonder what type of reaction it is. Something like a allergy or something else....

    The vaccine "tricks" your body into thinking that you got COVID and
    makes it produce the anti-bodies. So the people who would be
    critically sicked by COVID will have a bad reaction to the vaccine
    since their bodies will react in the same way.

    I had a mild reaction after my first shot of AstraZeneca last week. Mild chills from 10 - 20 hours after the shot, lack of energy from 10-30 hours, and some soreness at the injection site for a few days. That's about it for me.

    They say the second dose of AZ usually causes less side effects, and interestingly, Pfizer is said to be the other way around (more side effects after the second dose, rather than the first).


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Wed May 5 20:28:00 2021
    On 05-04-21 17:13, Spectre wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    I'm no expert at anything really, but the 2 versions of reaction to
    other vaccines I've been made aware of are essentially either the "allergic" meaning for some reason something in the contents of it sets you off, peanuts anyone? The other being an over reactive immune
    response. Neither of these see to fit the blood clot bill.. shrug

    One hypothesis for the clotting that I've seen is a rare immune attack on blood platelets, which would explain why a low platlet count is associated with these clots. However, I'm not aware of any confirmation.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Dr. What on Wed May 5 20:38:00 2021
    On 05-04-21 08:35, Dr. What wrote to Spectre <=-

    A new study by The Salk Institute has shown that COVID is a vascular,
    not respiratory, disease and that the spike protein is the main
    culprit.

    You seem to have missed one line in the article "(which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines)".

    Yes, I did read the article, because your message caught my interest.

    The study also shows that the vaccines, which use large doses of the
    spike proteins, damage arteries and lungs without any help from COVID.

    That's not what it said, but it did say that spike protein from SARS-COV2, tacked onto a pseudo virus does cause the vascular damage. But the statement I quoted suggests this is not an issue with the vaccines (not to say they don't have other issues - all vaccines do, hopefully very low probabilities!).


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  • From Dr. What@21:1/194 to Vk3jed on Wed May 5 08:17:00 2021
    Vk3jed wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That's not what it said, but it did say that spike protein from
    SARS-COV2, tacked onto a pseudo virus does cause the vascular damage.
    But the statement I quoted suggests this is not an issue with the
    vaccines (not to say they don't have other issues - all vaccines do, hopefully very low probabilities!).

    Gotta keep pushing the Narrative, I suppose...


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Vk3jed on Wed May 5 16:55:00 2021
    Vk3jed wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    I had a mild reaction after my first shot of AstraZeneca last week.
    Mild chills from 10 - 20 hours after the shot, lack of energy from
    10-30 hours, and some soreness at the injection site for a few days. That's about it for me.

    My first dose of Moderna made me feel achy and tired, and I slept (and ate)
    a ton.

    I had my second dose yesterday. I feel fine, although a little light-headed. My arm feels like I lost one of those teenage arm-punching fights and I wish I'd had them inject me in my non-dominant arm.

    It only hurts when I point.




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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 7 19:22:00 2021
    On 05-05-21 16:55, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Vk3jed wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    I had a mild reaction after my first shot of AstraZeneca last week.
    Mild chills from 10 - 20 hours after the shot, lack of energy from
    10-30 hours, and some soreness at the injection site for a few days. That's about it for me.

    My first dose of Moderna made me feel achy and tired, and I slept (and ate) a ton.

    I actually slept really badly the night after getting my vaccine, but sleep returned to normal the next night.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Vk3jed on Sun May 9 07:46:00 2021
    Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    My first dose of Moderna made me feel achy and tired, and I slept (and ate) a ton.

    I actually slept really badly the night after getting my vaccine, but sleep returned to normal the next night.

    I'm a week off my second dose. My arm hurt like hell for a couple of days, a little light-headedness for 2 days, and I'm back to normal now.

    California says that properly vaccinated people can be in public without a mask now. It'll feel strange and I'm sure I'll get some weird looks.

    And, I feel weird about not wearing one - but it'll be nice being able to connect with people in public again. I smile and interact with people in public, and it feels weird only being able to do that head nod I did in high school.

    'sup?


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  • From Elf@21:1/194 to PAULIE420 on Mon May 10 20:30:00 2021
    Quoting Paulie420 to Ogg <=-

    Yea.. fairly sure she didn't die. Not stop breathing; my message was
    to point out that there are serious reactions to the Covid vaccine.
    They didn't verbally state any risks - they did verbally ask questions
    to protect their liabilities... the information about risks was on a 5 page document, in one spot.

    All vaccines (and medications) have risks. Bottom line, most people will
    not have dangerous reactions to the vaccine.


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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Elf on Tue May 11 10:48:07 2021
    All vaccines (and medications) have risks. Bottom line, most people will not have dangerous reactions to the vaccine.

    I agree with you 100%, and get my 2nd shot here shortly. Thankful for it, too. Whether it would cause less people to take it or not, I think they should verbally warn people of the risks a little more.

    My location was really upscale and nice; but the only mention of risks were in one paragraph of a 7-page printout that they gave - and I read. And understod... but they only asked questions that... you know, they were just looking to tick 4 boxes so they could prick you w/o liability...

    Just saying; I support the vaccines. We should all get them. And they should say; you may have reactions with these risks:........ they didn't.



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 12 19:13:00 2021
    On 05-09-21 07:46, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I'm a week off my second dose. My arm hurt like hell for a couple of
    days, a little light-headedness for 2 days, and I'm back to normal now.

    I have 10 weeks till my second dose. AZ is on a different schedule - 12 weeks between doses.

    California says that properly vaccinated people can be in public
    without a mask now. It'll feel strange and I'm sure I'll get some weird looks.

    Yeah masks here are only required on public transport, airliners and doctors surgeries. Elsewhere, they're not required.

    And, I feel weird about not wearing one - but it'll be nice being able
    to connect with people in public again. I smile and interact with
    people in public, and it feels weird only being able to do that head
    nod I did in high school.

    You'll get used to it again. :)


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