• Multimail address book

    From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to All on Sat May 23 00:38:00 2020
    I am adding objects in my multimail address book but can't seem to figure out how to create a message from that window. Is this possible?

    Running Linux 64, compiled, 0.49

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to calcmandan on Fri May 22 22:50:00 2020
    calcmandan wrote to All <=-

    I am adding objects in my multimail address book but can't seem
    to figure out how to create a message from that window. Is this
    possible?

    Running Linux 64, compiled, 0.49

    I don't see a way to do that, either. Not real sure what that
    particular "address book" is supposed to be for - seems pretty
    useless to me.

    FWIW, the latest version of MM is 0.52 if you care to update.
    Doesn't solve the issue you're talking about, but...



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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Gamgee on Sat May 23 13:58:21 2020
    Re: Re: Multimail address book
    By: Gamgee to calcmandan on Fri May 22 2020 18:50:00


    Gamgee> I don't see a way to do that, either. Not real sure what that
    Gamgee> particular "address book" is supposed to be for - seems pretty
    Gamgee> useless to me.

    if there are folks you write to a lot, they can be listed in the address book... then when you go to write a new message, not a reply, you can select them from the address book and the header will be filled for you to then maybe add a subject line at which point you can write the message body...

    in some cases, you might have entries for (eg) areafix on different systems... these may have your areafix password for that system set as the subject line... selecting one of these would make it easier for you to just write your areafix commands in the message body...


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  • From Gamgee@VERT to mark lewis on Sat May 23 13:16:00 2020
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    Re: Re: Multimail address book
    By: Gamgee to calcmandan on Fri May 22 2020 18:50:00

    Gamgee> I don't see a way to do that, either. Not real sure
    what that
    Gamgee> particular "address book" is supposed to be for - seems
    pretty
    Gamgee> useless to me.

    if there are folks you write to a lot, they can be listed in the
    address book... then when you go to write a new message, not a
    reply, you can select them from the address book and the header
    will be filled for you to then maybe add a subject line at which
    point you can write the message body...

    Yes, I see the usefulness of that, in a "general" sense, but...

    in some cases, you might have entries for (eg) areafix on
    different systems... these may have your areafix password for
    that system set as the subject line... selecting one of these
    would make it easier for you to just write your areafix commands
    in the message body...

    In the *MultiMail* address book, there doesn't seem to be any way
    to do this. If you go to compose a new message, you can type in
    who you want it to be addressed to, but there's no way to pull up
    the address book and choose something from there.

    Even if you're *IN* the address book, and highlight a name/address
    in there, then press Enter, it just.... dumps you back to the main
    screen and doesn't seem to know you might want to write a message
    to that entry you selected. It really seems to have no function
    other than to be a place you can *store* (but not use) some
    addresses.

    Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how it appears to
    work for me here...


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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Gamgee on Sat May 23 15:49:33 2020
    Re: Re: Multimail address book
    By: Gamgee to mark lewis on Sat May 23 2020 09:16:00


    in some cases, you might have entries for (eg) areafix on
    different systems... these may have your areafix password for
    that system set as the subject line... selecting one of these
    would make it easier for you to just write your areafix commands
    in the message body...

    Gamgee> In the *MultiMail* address book, there doesn't seem to be any
    Gamgee> way to do this. If you go to compose a new message, you can type
    Gamgee> in who you want it to be addressed to, but there's no way to pull
    Gamgee> up the address book and choose something from there.

    ahhh, i see what you mean, now... sounds like a feature that is incomplete... someone might want to file a defect on the multimail repo site about it ;)


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  • From Gamgee@VERT to Rampage on Sat May 23 16:51:00 2020
    Rampage wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Gamgee> In the *MultiMail* address book, there doesn't seem to
    be any
    Gamgee> way to do this. If you go to compose a new message, you
    can type
    Gamgee> in who you want it to be addressed to, but there's no
    way to pull
    Gamgee> up the address book and choose something from there.

    ahhh, i see what you mean, now... sounds like a feature that is incomplete... someone might want to file a defect on the
    multimail repo site about it ;)

    I thought about it, but have not had any response to a previous
    inquiry I've sent (a different issue), so not sure how much
    interest the author has...

    Did a little more looking, and actually found some more info in
    the man page. It's used for netmail/email only (not echomail)
    apparently, and if you enter a new message (not a reply) in one of
    those areas, the Address Book does come up and let you choose a
    recipient. I guess that works, but is not something I'd be likely
    to use. I generally like to be logged into the BBS and use
    netmail from there rather than do it offline. So, anyway... :-)



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  • From Havok@VERT/GMBBS to mark lewis on Sat May 23 20:10:12 2020
    Re: Re: Multimail address book
    By: mark lewis to Gamgee on Sat May 23 2020 09:58 am


    if there are folks you write to a lot, they can be listed in the address book...

    Hate to butt in but could you tell me more about a address book?

    I was just thinking yesterday, boy would it be nice to have a address
    book to store net address's

    Thanks

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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Havok on Sun May 24 12:18:00 2020
    Havok wrote to mark lewis <=-

    Hate to butt in but could you tell me more about a address book?

    No problem, butt in anytime. I use multimail and there's an address book but can't seem to figure out a way to use it. There seems to be a concensus that it's not usable. I really like the idea of using netmail vs creating a bbs account on a perspective board just to msg someone.

    In multimail, press 'a.' You can add as many addresses as you'd like but I can't figure out a way to create a message from there.

    There's also a 'send netmail' option but it doesn't seem to work. At least, I haven't figured out how to use it. I use the linux version and there's no manpage for it and the sourceforge page doesn't have much info to draw on.

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to calcmandan on Sun May 24 10:43:51 2020
    Re: Re: Multimail address boo
    By: calcmandan to Havok on Sun May 24 2020 08:18:00


    Hate to butt in but could you tell me more about a address book?

    calcmandan> No problem, butt in anytime. I use multimail and there's an
    calcmandan> address book but can't seem to figure out a way to use it.

    apparently it is only used for FTN netmail and internet email...

    calcmandan> There seems to be a concensus that it's not usable.

    it is only for private mail like FTN netmail or internet email...

    calcmandan> I really like the idea of using netmail vs creating
    calcmandan> a bbs account on a perspective board just to msg someone.

    since multimail is an offline QWK/BW reader, you still need a BBS account somewhere on a BBS that does FTN if you want to do FTN netmail... i've never used multimail for email or any other offline messaging stuffings...


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to calcmandan on Sun May 24 12:08:00 2020
    calcmandan wrote to Havok <=-

    Hate to butt in but could you tell me more about a address book?

    No problem, butt in anytime. I use multimail and there's an
    address book but can't seem to figure out a way to use it. There
    seems to be a concensus that it's not usable. I really like the
    idea of using netmail vs creating a bbs account on a perspective
    board just to msg someone.

    In multimail, press 'a.' You can add as many addresses as you'd
    like but I can't figure out a way to create a message from there.

    Well, it can be done, for certain types of messages. I posted
    about that in a previous message in this thread.

    There's also a 'send netmail' option but it doesn't seem to work.
    At least, I haven't figured out how to use it. I use the linux
    version and there's no manpage for it and the sourceforge page
    doesn't have much info to draw on.

    My linux version has a man page. "man mm". The address book is
    described in there, for what it's worth.


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  • From Micheal Pierce@VERT to calcmandan on Sun May 24 10:19:56 2020
    Hate to butt in but could you tell me more about a address book?

    No problem, butt in anytime. I use multimail and there's an address
    book but can't seem to figure out a way to use it. There seems to be a concensus that it's not usable. I really like the idea of using
    netmail vs creating a bbs account on a perspective board just to msg someone.

    In multimail, press 'a.' You can add as many addresses as you'd like
    but I can't figure out a way to create a message from there.
    have you tried CONTROL E instead of E ??

    There's also a 'send netmail' option but it doesn't seem to work. At least, I haven't figured out how to use it. I use the linux version
    and there's no manpage for it and the sourceforge page doesn't have
    much info to draw on.

    on my pi system (debian buster) man mm pulls up a man page

    Micheal


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rampage on Sun May 24 16:05:22 2020
    Re: Re: Multimail address boo
    By: Rampage to calcmandan on Sun May 24 2020 06:43 am

    Re: Re: Multimail address boo
    By: calcmandan to Havok on Sun May 24 2020 08:18:00


    Hate to butt in but could you tell me more about a address book?

    calcmandan> No problem, butt in anytime. I use multimail and there's an
    calcmandan> address book but can't seem to figure out a way to use it.

    apparently it is only used for FTN netmail and internet email...

    calcmandan> There seems to be a concensus that it's not usable.

    it is only for private mail like FTN netmail or internet email...

    calcmandan> I really like the idea of using netmail vs creating
    calcmandan> a bbs account on a perspective board just to msg someone.

    since multimail is an offline QWK/BW reader, you still need a BBS account somewhere on a BBS that does FTN if you want to do FTN netmail... i've never used multimail for email or any other offline messaging stuffings...

    Synchronet's QWK interface supports sending and receiving netmail of all kinds in the "mail" base (conference 0). No special support in the offline reader (e.g. multimail) is needed.

    To send an offline netmail message, create a message in the mail base (conference 0) to "netmail". Place the destination user@addr on the first line of the message body.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Digital Man on Mon May 25 13:12:00 2020
    On 05-24-20 12:05, Digital Man wrote to Rampage <=-

    To send an offline netmail message, create a message in the mail base (conference 0) to "netmail". Place the destination user@addr on the
    first line of the message body.

    I have discovered an interesting issue, however. The only time conference 0 appears in my list of conferences in a QWK packet is when I actually receive a netmail or email in that packet. Otherwise it doesn't show in the conference list, but every other conference on the board, regardless of whether there's messages or not is present. Reading QWK downloaded from Synchronet in Multimail here.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Tony Langdon on Sun May 24 21:55:20 2020
    Re: Re: Multimail address boo
    By: Tony Langdon to Digital Man on Mon May 25 2020 09:12 am

    On 05-24-20 12:05, Digital Man wrote to Rampage <=-

    To send an offline netmail message, create a message in the mail base (conference 0) to "netmail". Place the destination user@addr on the first line of the message body.

    I have discovered an interesting issue, however. The only time conference 0 appears in my list of conferences in a QWK packet is when I actually receive netmail or email in that packet. Otherwise it doesn't show in the conferenc list, but every other conference on the board, regardless of whether there's messages or not is present. Reading QWK downloaded from Synchronet in Multimail here.

    Sounds like a MultiMail issue. The 0 (E-Mail) conference is always included in the CONTROL.DAT file created by sbbs. :-(

    digital man

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Tony Langdon on Sun May 24 23:36:00 2020
    Tony Langdon wrote to Digital Man <=-

    To send an offline netmail message, create a message in the mail base (conference 0) to "netmail". Place the destination user@addr on the
    first line of the message body.

    I have discovered an interesting issue, however. The only time
    conference 0 appears in my list of conferences in a QWK packet is
    when I actually receive a netmail or email in that packet.
    Otherwise it doesn't show in the conference list, but every other conference on the board, regardless of whether there's messages
    or not is present. Reading QWK downloaded from Synchronet in
    Multimail here.

    Have you tried cycling through the 3 options (at the conference
    list screen) with the 'L' key? That cycles the view between All,
    Active, and Subscribed. In the All view, I see conference
    "0 E-mail" shown...


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Digital Man on Mon May 25 18:17:00 2020
    On 05-24-20 17:55, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Sounds like a MultiMail issue. The 0 (E-Mail) conference is always included in the CONTROL.DAT file created by sbbs. :-(

    Thanks, Gamgee nailed it, now I have my conference 0. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Gamgee on Mon May 25 18:18:00 2020
    On 05-24-20 19:36, Gamgee wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Have you tried cycling through the 3 options (at the conference
    list screen) with the 'L' key? That cycles the view between All,
    Active, and Subscribed. In the All view, I see conference
    "0 E-mail" shown...

    That did the trick, thanks. :)


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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Tony Langdon on Mon May 25 13:08:01 2020
    Re: Re: Multimail address boo
    By: Tony Langdon to Digital Man on Mon May 25 2020 09:12:00


    To send an offline netmail message, create a message in the mail
    base (conference 0) to "netmail". Place the destination user@addr
    on the first line of the message body.

    I have discovered an interesting issue, however. The only time
    conference 0 appears in my list of conferences in a QWK packet is
    when I actually receive a netmail or email in that packet. Otherwise
    it doesn't show in the conference list, but every other conference
    on the board, regardless of whether there's messages or not is
    present. Reading QWK downloaded from Synchronet in Multimail here.

    sounds like you have multimail set to show only areas with mail in them... you should be able to adjust that so that all areas are shown...

    # Default mode for area list: All, Subscribed, or Active
    AreaMode: Subscribed



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  • From Havok@VERT/GMBBS to calcmandan on Mon May 25 09:19:29 2020
    Re: Re: Multimail address boo
    By: calcmandan to Havok on Sun May 24 2020 08:18 am


    No problem, butt in anytime. I use multimail and there's an address book but can't seem to figure out a way to use it. There seems to be a concensus that it's not usable. I really like the idea of using netmail vs creating a bbs account on a perspective board just to msg someone.

    Morning, I have to look into this always willing to try someone new to me!


    Thanks for the tip...

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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Mon May 25 04:51:00 2020
    Gamgee wrote to calcmandan <=-

    calcmandan wrote to Havok <=-

    Hate to butt in but could you tell me more about a address book?

    No problem, butt in anytime. I use multimail and there's an
    address book but can't seem to figure out a way to use it. There
    seems to be a concensus that it's not usable. I really like the
    idea of using netmail vs creating a bbs account on a perspective
    board just to msg someone.

    In multimail, press 'a.' You can add as many addresses as you'd
    like but I can't figure out a way to create a message from there.

    Well, it can be done, for certain types of messages. I posted
    about that in a previous message in this thread.

    I'll look for it.

    There's also a 'send netmail' option but it doesn't seem to work.
    At least, I haven't figured out how to use it. I use the linux
    version and there's no manpage for it and the sourceforge page
    doesn't have much info to draw on.

    My linux version has a man page. "man mm". The address book is
    described in there, for what it's worth.

    ohhhhh. i did man multimail. Thanks.

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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Rampage on Mon May 25 04:54:00 2020
    Rampage wrote to calcmandan <=-

    Re: Re: Multimail address boo
    By: calcmandan to Havok on Sun May 24 2020 08:18:00


    Hate to butt in but could you tell me more about a address book?

    calcmandan> No problem, butt in anytime. I use multimail and there's
    an
    calcmandan> address book but can't seem to figure out a way to use it.

    apparently it is only used for FTN netmail and internet email...

    I use FTN netmail and internet email all the time from MM. But I can't do it from teh addressbook. I have to paste the address in manually.

    calcmandan> There seems to be a concensus that it's not usable.

    it is only for private mail like FTN netmail or internet email...

    This is repeating what you said above.

    calcmandan> I really like the idea of using netmail vs creating
    calcmandan> a bbs account on a perspective board just to msg someone.

    since multimail is an offline QWK/BW reader, you still need a BBS
    account somewhere on a BBS that does FTN if you want to do FTN
    netmail... i've never used multimail for email or any other offline messaging stuffings...

    I use FTN netmail and internet email all the time from MM. But I can't do it from teh addressbook. I have to paste the address in manually and the recipients will receive the message and reply. But I will read the man page..

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  • From calcmandan@VERT/DIGDIST to Micheal Pierce on Mon May 25 04:56:00 2020
    Micheal Pierce wrote to calcmandan <=-

    Hate to butt in but could you tell me more about a address book?

    No problem, butt in anytime. I use multimail and there's an address
    book but can't seem to figure out a way to use it. There seems to be a concensus that it's not usable. I really like the idea of using
    netmail vs creating a bbs account on a perspective board just to msg someone.

    In multimail, press 'a.' You can add as many addresses as you'd like
    but I can't figure out a way to create a message from there.
    have you tried CONTROL E instead of E ??

    Wow, it actually creates a message. Thanks for that.

    There's also a 'send netmail' option but it doesn't seem to work. At least, I haven't figured out how to use it. I use the linux version
    and there's no manpage for it and the sourceforge page doesn't have
    much info to draw on.

    on my pi system (debian buster) man mm pulls up a man page

    I did man multimail and mmail. I didn't think of doing mm.

    Thanks, you answered the question.

    If I knew the man page were there, this thread wouldn't exist.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Rampage on Tue May 26 23:46:00 2020
    On 05-25-20 09:08, Rampage wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    sounds like you have multimail set to show only areas with mail in
    them... you should be able to adjust that so that all areas are
    shown...

    # Default mode for area list: All, Subscribed, or Active
    AreaMode: Subscribed

    Actually it was in Subscribed, conference 0 only shows up in "All" (or if there is incoming mail in it).


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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Tony Langdon on Tue May 26 17:50:41 2020
    Re: Re: Multimail address boo
    By: Tony Langdon to Rampage on Tue May 26 2020 19:46:00


    # Default mode for area list: All, Subscribed, or Active
    AreaMode: Subscribed

    Actually it was in Subscribed, conference 0 only shows up in "All" (or if there is incoming mail in it).

    yep! that's why i posted the above config portion ;)


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