• QWK questions

    From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DIGITAL MAN on Tue Jun 23 22:50:00 2020
    Hi Rob.

    Some questions about Sync's QWK.

    I have the date system set to use DD-MM-AA mode, 24 hour format and
    GMT-3 time zone (Rio de Janeiro).

    When downloading a QWK package, the file always comes with more 3
    hour time attribute - if is 10:00 local time the file come with
    13:00 - and all messages show the date in MM-DD-AA mode. There is
    no point in adjusting settings in Bluewave or Sync. It always
    indicates the same way. The same at Multimail.

    It is not a real problem, but if possible I would like to correct
    it. :-)

    TIA


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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EPHRAM to Mauro Veiga on Wed Jun 24 11:43:21 2020
    Hi Rob.

    Some questions about Sync's QWK.

    I have the date system set to use DD-MM-AA mode, 24 hour format and
    GMT-3 time zone (Rio de Janeiro).

    When downloading a QWK package, the file always comes with more 3
    hour time attribute - if is 10:00 local time the file come with
    13:00 - and all messages show the date in MM-DD-AA mode. There is
    no point in adjusting settings in Bluewave or Sync. It always
    indicates the same way. The same at Multimail.

    It is not a real problem, but if possible I would like to correct
    it. :-)

    TIA

    AFAIK, the timestamp is set by the QWK hub, in this case vert.synchro.net Pacific Time ( GMT -7 ) ...

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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to MORTIFIS on Thu Jun 25 21:06:00 2020
    Quoting Mortifis to Mauro Veiga at 06-24-20 07:43 <=-

    Hi Rob.

    Some questions about Sync's QWK.

    I have the date system set to use DD-MM-AA mode, 24 hour format and
    GMT-3 time zone (Rio de Janeiro).

    When downloading a QWK package, the file always comes with more 3
    hour time attribute - if is 10:00 local time the file come with
    13:00 - and all messages show the date in MM-DD-AA mode. There is
    no point in adjusting settings in Bluewave or Sync. It always
    indicates the same way. The same at Multimail.

    It is not a real problem, but if possible I would like to correct
    it. :-)

    TIA

    AFAIK, the timestamp is set by the QWK hub, in this case
    vert.synchro.net Pacific Time ( GMT -7 ) ...

    No problem with Sync's QWK network.
    I refer to my system's QWK Offline Mail Reader.


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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Mauro Veiga on Thu Jun 25 23:16:58 2020
    Re: QWK questions
    By: Mauro Veiga to MORTIFIS on Thu Jun 25 2020 17:06:00


    AFAIK, the timestamp is set by the QWK hub, in this case
    vert.synchro.net Pacific Time ( GMT -7 ) ...

    No problem with Sync's QWK network.
    I refer to my system's QWK Offline Mail Reader.

    QWK offline mail readers do not have the smarts to display the message dates in local time... they display whatever is in the message packet they get from the bbs...


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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to RAMPAGE on Fri Jun 26 12:59:00 2020
    Quoting Rampage to Mauro Veiga at 06-25-20 19:16 <=-

    Re: QWK questions
    By: Mauro Veiga to MORTIFIS on Thu Jun 25 2020 17:06:00


    AFAIK, the timestamp is set by the QWK hub, in this case
    vert.synchro.net Pacific Time ( GMT -7 ) ...

    No problem with Sync's QWK network.
    I refer to my system's QWK Offline Mail Reader.

    QWK offline mail readers do not have the smarts to display the message dates in local time... they display whatever is in the message packet
    they get from the bbs...

    This is exactly the problem. My system provides me with a QWK
    package with + 3 hours from my local time (GMT-3) *and* messages in
    the package with MM-DD-AA format, instead DD-MM-YY like i configured
    on SCFG. Two diferent problems.

    I tried to change time zone and date mode on SCFG but no effects on
    QWK packages and messages.

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  • From Mortifis@VERT/EPHRAM to Mauro Veiga on Sat Jun 27 02:44:15 2020
    Quoting Rampage to Mauro Veiga at 06-25-20 19:16 <=-

    Re: QWK questions
    By: Mauro Veiga to MORTIFIS on Thu Jun 25 2020 17:06:00


    AFAIK, the timestamp is set by the QWK hub, in this case vert.synchro.net Pacific Time ( GMT -7 ) ...

    No problem with Sync's QWK network.
    I refer to my system's QWK Offline Mail Reader.

    QWK offline mail readers do not have the smarts to display the message dates in local time... they display whatever is in the message packet they get from the bbs...

    This is exactly the problem. My system provides me with a QWK
    package with + 3 hours from my local time (GMT-3) *and* messages in
    the package with MM-DD-AA format, instead DD-MM-YY like i configured
    on SCFG. Two diferent problems.

    I tried to change time zone and date mode on SCFG but no effects on
    QWK packages and messages.

    did you make sure both bluewave and scfg to use the same date format?

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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to MORTIFIS on Sat Jun 27 15:29:00 2020
    Quoting Mortifis to Mauro Veiga at 06-26-20 22:44 <=-

    Quoting Rampage to Mauro Veiga at 06-25-20 19:16 <=-

    Re: QWK questions
    By: Mauro Veiga to MORTIFIS on Thu Jun 25 2020 17:06:00


    AFAIK, the timestamp is set by the QWK hub, in this case vert.synchro.net Pacific Time ( GMT -7 ) ...

    No problem with Sync's QWK network.
    I refer to my system's QWK Offline Mail Reader.

    QWK offline mail readers do not have the smarts to display the message dates in local time... they display whatever is in the message packet they get from the bbs...

    This is exactly the problem. My system provides me with a QWK
    package with + 3 hours from my local time (GMT-3) *and* messages in
    the package with MM-DD-AA format, instead DD-MM-YY like i configured
    on SCFG. Two diferent problems.

    I tried to change time zone and date mode on SCFG but no effects on
    QWK packages and messages.

    did you make sure both bluewave and scfg to use the same date format?

    Yep. Same settings in SCFG and Bluewave.
    The same occurs in Multimail.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Mauro Veiga on Wed Jul 1 14:24:45 2020
    Re: QWK questions
    By: Mauro Veiga to DIGITAL MAN on Tue Jun 23 2020 06:50 pm

    Hi Rob.

    Some questions about Sync's QWK.

    I have the date system set to use DD-MM-AA mode, 24 hour format and
    GMT-3 time zone (Rio de Janeiro).

    When downloading a QWK package, the file always comes with more 3
    hour time attribute - if is 10:00 local time the file come with
    13:00 - and all messages show the date in MM-DD-AA mode. There is
    no point in adjusting settings in Bluewave or Sync. It always
    indicates the same way. The same at Multimail.

    It is not a real problem, but if possible I would like to correct
    it. :-)

    The QWK format does not allow for different date/time formats. It's up to your offline reader to parse and re-display the date/time in the format you like, if the reader has that feature.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Mauro Veiga on Wed Jul 1 14:28:22 2020
    Re: QWK questions
    By: Mauro Veiga to RAMPAGE on Fri Jun 26 2020 08:59 am

    Quoting Rampage to Mauro Veiga at 06-25-20 19:16 <=-

    Re: QWK questions
    By: Mauro Veiga to MORTIFIS on Thu Jun 25 2020 17:06:00


    AFAIK, the timestamp is set by the QWK hub, in this case vert.synchro.net Pacific Time ( GMT -7 ) ...

    No problem with Sync's QWK network.
    I refer to my system's QWK Offline Mail Reader.

    QWK offline mail readers do not have the smarts to display the message dates in local time... they display whatever is in the message packet they get from the bbs...

    This is exactly the problem. My system provides me with a QWK
    package with + 3 hours from my local time (GMT-3) *and* messages in
    the package with MM-DD-AA format, instead DD-MM-YY like i configured
    on SCFG. Two diferent problems.

    I tried to change time zone and date mode on SCFG but no effects on
    QWK packages and messages.

    The "date mode" in SCFG will have no affect on created QWK packets.

    The time zone only affects locally-created messages at that time - it has no affected on previously-posted messages or messages imported from networks.

    digital man

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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Jul 1 22:05:00 2020
    Quoting Digital Man to Mauro Veiga at 07-01-20 10:24 <=-

    The QWK format does not allow for different date/time formats. It's up
    to your offline reader to parse and re-display the date/time in the
    format you like, if the reader has that feature.

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    It has but ineffective.
    On BW package format work fine.

    Thanks, Rob.


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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Jul 1 22:06:00 2020
    Quoting Digital Man to Mauro Veiga at 07-01-20 10:28 <=-

    The "date mode" in SCFG will have no affect on created QWK packets.

    The time zone only affects locally-created messages at that time - it
    has no affected on previously-posted messages or messages imported
    from networks.
    digital man

    The messages don't be affected by time zone.
    Only date stamp of QWK packet.


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Digital Man on Thu Jul 2 00:27:00 2020
    Rob,

    The QWK format does not allow for different date/time formats. It's up
    to your offline reader to parse and re-display the date/time in the
    format you like, if the reader has that feature.

    I noted when using SyncTerm (which I prefer) the QWK Mail Packet is
    in the time zone of the BBS you get it from. However, if you use MTel,
    it's in UTC Time on the QWK Packet.

    Daryl

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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DARYL STOUT on Thu Jul 2 22:22:00 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Digital Man at 07-01-20 20:27 <=-

    Rob,

    The QWK format does not allow for different date/time formats. It's up
    to your offline reader to parse and re-display the date/time in the
    format you like, if the reader has that feature.

    I noted when using SyncTerm (which I prefer) the QWK Mail Packet is
    in the time zone of the BBS you get it from. However, if you use MTel, it's in UTC Time on the QWK Packet.

    Yes! That is!
    I'm using MTelnet. I tryed Netrunner and works fine with correct
    date stamp. :-))


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Mauro Veiga on Fri Jul 3 13:35:00 2020
    Mauro,

    I noted when using SyncTerm (which I prefer) the QWK Mail Packet is
    in the time zone of the BBS you get it from. However, if you use MTel, it's in UTC Time on the QWK Packet.

    Yes! That is!
    I'm using MTelnet. I tryed Netrunner and works fine with correct
    date stamp. :-))

    I haven't tried NetRunner, but it's included with the Telnet BBS
    Guide monthly file, done by David Perussel.

    I use MTel on the local console to do a quick check of things in
    local mode, as at times, the hight speed internet here has been
    erratic. But, there have been numerous thunderstorms to deal with,
    as Arkansas is in a very unsettled weather pattern right now. More
    are forecast right through at least the middle of next week.

    Otherwise, I use SyncTerm for the telnet client, since it will
    enter my user name, password, and the BBS Sysop Password for me
    automatically. Macros are great...except for when you forget that
    you're not at the host console. :P

    Years ago, I was visiting my girlfriends house (she eventually
    became my wife, but I lost her to a heart attack 3 weeks shy of
    our 4th wedding anniversary over 13 years ago)...and my BBS was
    at my parents home (I'm back here now...both of them are dead
    and gone). Well, at the host console, I hit a macro for the
    dial-up BBS to log me in...but, I forgot I was elsewhere when I
    did that (I was at my future wife's apartment). I hit the macro,
    and when nothing happened, it hit me...

    "You're not at the host console. You don't know your password,
    and can't logon to your own BBS, you dumb $*!+" <G>

    I felt like a fool. :P

    Daryl

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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DARYL STOUT on Sat Jul 4 14:51:00 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Mauro Veiga at 07-03-20 09:35 <=-

    Mauro,

    I noted when using SyncTerm (which I prefer) the QWK Mail Packet is
    in the time zone of the BBS you get it from. However, if you use MTel, it's in UTC Time on the QWK Packet.

    Yes! That is!
    I'm using MTelnet. I tryed Netrunner and works fine with correct
    date stamp. :-))

    I haven't tried NetRunner, but it's included with the Telnet BBS
    Guide monthly file, done by David Perussel.

    I use MTel on the local console to do a quick check of things in
    local mode, as at times, the hight speed internet here has been
    erratic. But, there have been numerous thunderstorms to deal with,
    as Arkansas is in a very unsettled weather pattern right now. More
    are forecast right through at least the middle of next week.

    Otherwise, I use SyncTerm for the telnet client, since it will
    enter my user name, password, and the BBS Sysop Password for me automatically. Macros are great...except for when you forget that
    you're not at the host console. :P

    Years ago, I was visiting my girlfriends house (she eventually
    became my wife, but I lost her to a heart attack 3 weeks shy of
    our 4th wedding anniversary over 13 years ago)...and my BBS was
    at my parents home (I'm back here now...both of them are dead
    and gone). Well, at the host console, I hit a macro for the
    dial-up BBS to log me in...but, I forgot I was elsewhere when I
    did that (I was at my future wife's apartment). I hit the macro,
    and when nothing happened, it hit me...

    "You're not at the host console. You don't know your password,
    and can't logon to your own BBS, you dumb $*!+" <G>

    I felt like a fool. :P

    These things happens.
    I use macros. MTelnet has this using Alt-L. I like MTelnet because
    it's simple and have nice visual.
    When need SSH i use ZOC. It's another powerfull terminal program.

    Syncterm is good but don't run on some machines here.


    []'s

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Mauro Veiga on Sat Jul 4 23:59:00 2020
    Mauro,

    I felt like a fool. :P

    These things happens.

    All too often. :P

    I use macros. MTelnet has this using Alt-L. I like MTelnet
    because
    it's simple and have nice visual.

    I used MTel for the longest time before I went to SyncTerm.

    When need SSH i use ZOC. It's another powerfull terminal program.

    I did try SSH with SyncTerm, but notice it bypasses the CAPTCHA deal
    I have at logon to keep bots out. Because I was being slammed by bots
    on it and Quote Of The Day (QOTD), I changed those to a non-conventional
    value. With the safeguards Synchronet has in place, I might re-enable
    both of those, but want time to think on that.

    Syncterm is good but don't run on some machines here.

    I'm running it under Windows 10 64-bit. The other day, it installed
    a new version of Microsoft Edge, and it royally corrupted Firefox. I
    had to uninstall and reinstall Firefox for my web surfing. I also use
    the DuckDuckGo search engine for privacy.

    Daryl

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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DARYL STOUT on Sun Jul 5 21:27:00 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Mauro Veiga at 07-04-20 19:59 <=-

    Syncterm is good but don't run on some machines here.

    I'm running it under Windows 10 64-bit. The other day, it installed
    a new version of Microsoft Edge, and it royally corrupted Firefox. I
    had to uninstall and reinstall Firefox for my web surfing. I also use
    the DuckDuckGo search engine for privacy.

    I hate Windows 10. Not the system, but the interface. I prefer
    Windows 7. At the moment, using a old Toshiba laptop with Windows
    XP. And W7 x64 on the main machine. I like WinXP to run DOS
    programs.

    Exist a portable version of Firefox on portableapps.com. Maybe work
    fine on W10.


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Mauro Veiga on Mon Jul 6 18:55:00 2020
    Mauro,

    I hate Windows 10. Not the system, but the interface. I prefer
    Windows 7. At the moment, using a old Toshiba laptop with Windows
    XP. And W7 x64 on the main machine. I like WinXP to run DOS
    programs.

    IObit utilities (www.iobit.com) has Start Menu 8, which will, if you
    choose, CHANGE that Windows 10 Start Up menu to the Windows 7 or 8 style instead...which is what I've done. I think a one year license for 3 PC's,
    is $8 in US funds.

    Of their products, only IObit Uninstaller and Smart Defrag are for a
    year on just one PC. But, the others like IObit Malware Fighter, Driver Booster, Advanced System Care, and IObit Software Updaterm are for a year
    for 3 PC's.

    Windows Defender (Microsoft's attempt at virus protection) said that
    the IObit files are Malware. That doesn't surprise me for the reason that
    most anti-virus programs think another anti-virus program's data files
    are malware. They don't like competition, and think they are the be all
    and end all of virus protection. Only the Sophos Anti-Virus program works
    well with others...but if you use Windows Defender, CA Internet Security, McAfee, F-Prot, AVG, etc., it'll think any other program is infected.

    I use most all of the IObit products, as does my FIDONet Hub, and we're
    both very pleased with them.

    Daryl

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  • From Marc Lewis@VERT to Daryl Stout on Tue Jul 7 02:58:52 2020
    Hello Daryl.

    <On 06Jul2020 14:55 Daryl Stout (1:103/705) wrote a message to Mauro Veiga regarding Alternate To Windows 10 >

    Mauro,

    I hate Windows 10. Not the system, but the interface. I prefer
    Windows 7. At the moment, using a old Toshiba laptop with Windows
    XP. And W7 x64 on the main machine. I like WinXP to run DOS
    programs.

    IObit utilities (www.iobit.com) has Start Menu 8, which will, if
    you choose, CHANGE that Windows 10 Start Up menu to the Windows 7
    or 8 style instead...which is what I've done. I think a one year
    license for 3 PC's, is $8 in US funds.

    You should take a look at Classic Shell which is a Windows-7-like shell/start menu that is free: http://classicshell.net/downloads. Works *really* well.

    Best regards,
    Marc

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Marc Lewis on Tue Jul 7 15:56:00 2020
    Marc,

    IObit utilities (www.iobit.com) has Start Menu 8, which will, if
    you choose, CHANGE that Windows 10 Start Up menu to the Windows 7
    or 8 style instead...which is what I've done. I think a one year
    license for 3 PC's, is $8 in US funds.

    You should take a look at Classic Shell which is a Windows-7-like shell/start menu that is free: http://classicshell.net/downloads.
    Works *really* well.

    Well, I just paid for another year on that, so it's pointless now.
    The thing is, when I use the MS-DOS Editor on the BBS computer, with
    Alt-F (File) and Alt-S (Save) commands, it brings up the Start Menu 8
    program, and I have to click on OK to get rid of it.

    ... Have you hugged an electric fence today?

    Like the video on YouTube, of the girl who partially dropped her
    pants and panties, and put her butt cheek up against the electric
    fence. She got a shock, and fell forward, with her face ending up
    in a pile of cow manure. :P

    Daryl

    ... "Farfrompoopin'" - German word for constipation.
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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DARYL STOUT on Tue Jul 7 22:28:00 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Mauro Veiga at 07-06-20 14:55 <=-

    ...
    I use most all of the IObit products, as does my FIDONet Hub, and
    we're both very pleased with them.

    Good hint. Thanks. :-)


    ... DOS=HIGH? I knew it was on something...
    ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Mauro Veiga on Tue Jul 7 19:42:27 2020
    Re: QWK questions
    By: Mauro Veiga to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Jul 01 2020 06:05 pm

    Quoting Digital Man to Mauro Veiga at 07-01-20 10:24 <=-

    The QWK format does not allow for different date/time formats. It's up to your offline reader to parse and re-display the date/time in the format you like, if the reader has that feature.

    ╔══ 1 Jul 20 ═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════ 17:36 ║ Preferences Global Archivers External Directories Registration Qui ╠══════════════?═════════════════════════?══════════════════════════════════ ║▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒│ Global Reader Settings │▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ ║▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒│ ┌─────────────────────────────────────────┐▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ ║▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒│ │ On-Screen Date/Time Yes │▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ ║▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒│ │ On-Screen Date Format DD Mmm YY │▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒ ║▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒│ │ On-Screen Time Format 24:mm │▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒

    It has but ineffective.
    On BW package format work fine.

    That's a feature of your QWK mail reader, not the packet format. And likewise, if it's not working, then it's a problem with the QWK mail reader. Which one is that? Maybe file a bug report with the author?

    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #50:
    NAPLPS = North American Presentation Layer Protocol Syntax (ANSI X3.110)
    Norco, CA WX: 88.1°F, 43.0% humidity, 13 mph ENE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Mauro Veiga on Tue Jul 7 19:44:26 2020
    Re: QWK questions
    By: Mauro Veiga to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Jul 01 2020 06:06 pm

    Quoting Digital Man to Mauro Veiga at 07-01-20 10:28 <=-

    The "date mode" in SCFG will have no affect on created QWK packets.

    The time zone only affects locally-created messages at that time - it has no affected on previously-posted messages or messages imported
    from networks.
    digital man

    The messages don't be affected by time zone.
    Only date stamp of QWK packet.

    Which time zone? The time zone of the message author is not contained in the original/legacy QWK message header. Synchronet has extensions which include the timezone of the original message posting, but the QWK mail reader would have to support that/those extensions:
    http://wiki.synchro.net/ref:qwk

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #14:
    The Boston gig has been cancelled. [Don't] worry, it's not a big college town. Norco, CA WX: 86.8°F, 46.0% humidity, 18 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Mauro Veiga on Tue Jul 7 19:54:25 2020
    Re: QWK questions
    By: Mauro Veiga to DARYL STOUT on Sat Jul 04 2020 10:51 am

    Syncterm is good but don't run on some machines here.

    SyncTERM should run on a lot more machines (OSes and architectures) than mTelnet!

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #67:
    SEXYZ is as a 32-bit replacement for [F]DSZ, CE-XYZ and other protocol drivers. Norco, CA WX: 86.8°F, 46.0% humidity, 18 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Mauro Veiga on Wed Jul 8 02:25:00 2020
    Mauro...

    I use most all of the IObit products, as does my FIDONet Hub, and
    we're both very pleased with them.

    Good hint. Thanks. :-)

    The thing I liked is that with few exceptions you could get a years
    worth of registration for more than one computer for certain programs.

    ... DOS=HIGH? I knew it was on something...

    I think Windows is a stronger drug. <G>

    Daryl

    ... "640K of RAM should be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.net
  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Jul 8 16:06:00 2020
    Quoting Digital Man to Mauro Veiga at 07-07-20 15:42 <=-

    It has but ineffective.
    On BW package format work fine.

    That's a feature of your QWK mail reader, not the packet format. And likewise, if it's not working, then it's a problem with the QWK mail reader. Which one is that? Maybe file a bug report with the author? digital man

    ┌─────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
    │The Blue Wave Offline Mail Reader, Version 2.30 │
    │Copyright (C) 1992-1996 by Cutting Edge Computing│
    │All Rights Reserved │
    │ │
    │Written by George Hatchew │
    │Portions by Martin Pollard │
    └─────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

    Unfortunately, it has become abandonware. George Hatchew no longer
    provides registration or support after a serious car accident for a
    long time.

    It is a pity. For me, it is the best offline mail reader ever
    made. It still has a legion of fans. Some prefer OLX or Multimail.
    BW is my choice.

    As I mentioned, it is not a real problem. Just a
    small detail that made me curious if there was a solution. No
    problem with this.

    Thanks, Rob. :-)


    ... BlueWave - Universe Tour - Stardate 47634.44
    ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30

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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Jul 8 16:07:00 2020
    Quoting Digital Man to Mauro Veiga at 07-07-20 15:44 <=-

    Re: QWK questions
    By: Mauro Veiga to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Jul 01 2020 06:06 pm

    Quoting Digital Man to Mauro Veiga at 07-01-20 10:28 <=-

    The "date mode" in SCFG will have no affect on created QWK packets.

    The time zone only affects locally-created messages at that time - it has no affected on previously-posted messages or messages imported
    from networks.
    digital man

    The messages don't be affected by time zone.
    Only date stamp of QWK packet.

    Which time zone? The time zone of the message author is not contained
    in the original/legacy QWK message header. Synchronet has extensions
    which include the timezone of the original message posting, but the
    QWK mail reader would have to support that/those extensions: http://wiki.synchro.net/ref:qwk
    digital man

    All right now. The problem was the MTelnet that set the downloaded
    package with GMT-0 (my time zone is -3). Don't occurs with
    Netrunner or Syncterm (tested with this package). :-)


    ... My other computer has Majel Roddenberry's voice.
    ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30

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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Jul 8 16:08:00 2020
    Quoting Digital Man to Mauro Veiga at 07-07-20 15:54 <=-

    Re: QWK questions
    By: Mauro Veiga to DARYL STOUT on Sat Jul 04 2020 10:51 am

    Syncterm is good but don't run on some machines here.

    I confess that a long time ago I tested Syncterm and I don't
    remember what the problem. Before writing this message I downloaded
    Syncterm and it working fine on the PC and that laptop with Windows 7.

    I suspect that when I had problems it was on an old Toshiba laptop
    with Windows XP. I will test Syncterm again on this Toshiba.


    ... Coming Soon....Turbo Edlin
    ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30

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  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DARYL STOUT on Wed Jul 8 16:09:00 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Mauro Veiga at 07-07-20 22:25 <=-

    ... DOS=HIGH? I knew it was on something...

    I think Windows is a stronger drug. <G>

    Totally agree. :-D


    ... The last thing I saw was this big Blue Wave!
    ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Digital Man on Thu Jul 9 17:22:47 2020
    Re: QWK questions
    By: Digital Man to Mauro Veiga on Tue Jul 07 2020 03:54 pm

    Syncterm is good but don't run on some machines here.

    SyncTERM should run on a lot more machines (OSes and architectures) than mTelnet!

    I'd cut off a toe to get an Android version of it.

    DaiTengu

    ... Chuck Norris can get 8 hours of sleep in 2 hours.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Mauro Veiga on Sun Aug 23 00:19:00 2020
    I hate Windows 10. Not the system, but the interface. I prefer
    Windows 7. At the moment, using a old Toshiba laptop with Windows
    XP. And W7 x64 on the main machine. I like WinXP to run DOS
    programs.

    There is a program from IObit Utilities called Start Menu 8 -- it
    allows you to make the start menu look like Windows 7 or 8...and NOT
    the one for Windows 10.

    Daryl

    ... Classically speaking, all musicians end up baroque.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.net
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Mauro Veiga on Sun Aug 23 00:42:00 2020
    I noted when using SyncTerm (which I prefer) the QWK Mail Packet is
    in the time zone of the BBS you get it from. However, if you use MTel, it's in UTC Time on the QWK Packet.

    Yes! That is!
    I'm using MTelnet. I tryed Netrunner and works fine with correct
    date stamp. :-))

    The ANSI displays better with SyncTerm, IMO. Plus, it enters the
    Sysop password, if required. MTel doesn't have that option.

    Daryl

    ... 100% of people who breathe, die.
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.net
  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DARYL STOUT on Mon Aug 24 15:56:00 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Mauro Veiga at 08-22-20 20:42 <=-

    I noted when using SyncTerm (which I prefer) the QWK Mail Packet is
    in the time zone of the BBS you get it from. However, if you use MTel, it's in UTC Time on the QWK Packet.

    Yes! That is!
    I'm using MTelnet. I tryed Netrunner and works fine with correct
    date stamp. :-))

    The ANSI displays better with SyncTerm, IMO. Plus, it enters the
    Sysop password, if required. MTel doesn't have that option.

    Yes, i'm using Syncterm now.
    Only on laptop with winXP i still need MTelnet.



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    Live Long and Prosper

    ... FILES=1 BUFFERS=0 FCBS=SAYWHAT BREAK=GIMME
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to Mauro Veiga on Thu Sep 10 16:20:00 2020
    Yes, i'm using Syncterm now.
    Only on laptop with winXP i still need MTelnet.

    The other thing with MTel compared to Synchronet is that the
    time in the QWK Packets is in UTC Time with MTel, but prevailing
    local or the BBS System Time with SyncTerm.

    Plus, I think the ANSI animation is better with SyncTerm.

    Daryl

    ... What makes cheese so confidential, that we need shredded cheese??
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    ■ Synchronet ■ The Thunderbolt BBS - tbolt.synchro.net
  • From Mauro Veiga@VERT/ABUTRE2 to DARYL STOUT on Mon Sep 14 14:39:00 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Mauro Veiga at 09-10-20 12:20 <=-

    Yes, i'm using Syncterm now.
    Only on laptop with winXP i still need MTelnet.

    The other thing with MTel compared to Synchronet is that the
    time in the QWK Packets is in UTC Time with MTel, but prevailing
    local or the BBS System Time with SyncTerm.

    Plus, I think the ANSI animation is better with SyncTerm.

    I had this problem with the UTC time stamp. Solved with Syncterm.
    Both work fine with ANSI animations.



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    MeSSaGe SiTTeR 1.00 - Full Version
    Live Long and Prosper

    ... In George Hatchew we trust.
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