Does anyone have experience setting FSXNet Echo message areas up? I have the netmail setup and working. Any help you could give would be appreciated. Mike Welborn, Sysop
Does anyone have experience setting FSXNet Echo message areas up? I have the netmail setup and working. Any help you could give would be appreciated. Mike Welborn, Sysop
On 11-10-18 18:49, Al wrote to Mike Welborn <=-
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Re: FSXNet
By: Mike Welborn to All on Sat Nov 10 2018 07:46 pm
Does anyone have experience setting FSXNet Echo message areas up? I have the netmail setup and working. Any help you could give would be appreciated. Mike Welborn, Sysop
I have them setup here. You just need to create the bases on your bbs, import the area list maybe and add them to your areas.bbs file and configure your link in sbbsecho.ini. Easiest way to do that is use echocfg.
I am starting to feel very disappointed with the way things turned out on FSXNet. They mocked me and humiliated me there. Then they ignored me. Very
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Oct 09 2019 06:11 pm
I've been seeing people replying to your messages there, so I'm not sure what you mean when you say people are ignoring you there.
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I am starting to feel very disappointed with the way things turned out on FSXNet. They mocked me and humiliated me there. Then they ignored me.
Very sad how a network runs.
So they gossip behind my back so I will do the sam with them so they know how it feels.
Dove-Net is a way better network. It' stood the test of time and will always > be my home here.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Oct 09 2019 06:11 pm
I don't recall seeing anyone mocking you there. Some reasonably polite requests to you about your posting habits (just like what has happened here in Dove-Net), but that's all. Also have seen multiple people reply to several of your recent posts there.
That network seems to run just fine.
People "gossip behind your back" on public echos? How is that possible?
I think I remember you being upset with your treatment here in Dove, also, but maybe I'm confused on that. In any case, remember that following the accepted norms in posting methods/practices will go a long ways in keeping others (and therefore yourself too) happy.
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I am starting to feel very disappointed with the way things turned out on FSXNet. They mocked me and humiliated me there. Then they ignored me. Very sad how a network runs. So they gossip behind my back so I will do the same with them so they know how it feels. Dove-Net is a way better network. It's stood the test of time and will always be my home here.
$ The Millionaire $
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Oct 09 2019 06:11 pm
Have you ever considered the problem may be YOU???
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The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
I don't recall seeing anyone mocking you there. Some reasonably polite requests to you about your posting habits (just like what has happened here in Dove-Net), but that's all. Also have seen multiple people reply to several of your recent posts there.
That network seems to run just fine.
People "gossip behind your back" on public echos? How is that possible?
I think I remember you being upset with your treatment here in Dove, also, but maybe I'm confused on that. In any case, remember that following the accepted norms in posting methods/practices will go a long ways in keeping others (and therefore yourself too) happy.
Hey at least I participate in the message bases rather than me
just leeching files instead. What does that accomplish? When I
ran a BBS before back in the day, my users loved lots of messages
because it gave them something to respond to. In the olden days
your post ratio had to be several messages before you even got to
the games or files sections which would eat up a chunk of your
time left to do the other one or both before your time was up for
that day.
Plus I see others including Avon post a lot too. I
don't see them complaining about them, are they? That's all I
have to say on the matter for now.
People "gossip behind your back" on public echos? How is that possible?
Hey at least I participate in the message bases rather than me just leeching files instead. What does that accomplish? When I ran a BBS before
Or... you sometimes quote the ENTIRE message, including headers, signature blocks, origin lines, tear lines, etc... This is all
just clutter and makes it difficult to read, and again....tends to
make folks not want to bother to replly. See?
I've been seeing people replying to your messages there, so I'm not sure what y
u mean when you say people are ignoring you there.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Oct 09 2019 06:11 pm
I've been seeing people replying to your messages there, so I'm not sure w you mean when you say people are ignoring you there.
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Well the old ones maybe but new ones no. I logged onto Agency BBS today and said:
"Your access to this system is revoked."
I have not seen any new posts from him there in multiple days, though.
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Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: FSXNet
By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Thu Oct 10 2019 07:52 am
People "gossip behind your back" on public echos? How is that
possible?
If people are going to talk about me behind my back, I would
always prefer that they talk about me behind my back to my face.
:P
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Thu Oct 10 2019 11:57 am
Or... you sometimes quote the ENTIRE message, including headers,
signature blocks, origin lines, tear lines, etc... This is all
just clutter and makes it difficult to read, and again....tends to
make folks not want to bother to replly. See?
To be fair, some editors (or the way they're set up) only allow
quoting the entire message, which would require the user to go
and remove parts of the quoted message they don't want to be
included, which could be a hassle.
I've noticed that web-based
message systems (which I believe The Millionaire is using) is one
that tends to quote the entire message. I suppose it's not that
difficult to remove text in a web-based editor, but The
Millionaire has also said he's using an iPad - so on a touch
screen, it might not be the easiest thing to select and delete
text.
I agree it adds clutter, but we should also take into
consideration that different people are using different devices
and editors that could make it difficult to do some of the things
that others might take for granted.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Thu Oct 10 2019 06:41 am
Hey at least I participate in the message bases rather than me just leeching files instead. What does that accomplish? When I ran a BBS before
These days, I don't think it really matters if a user wants to leech files from your BBS. When you have a BBS set up on the internet, you can set up basically as many nodes as you want for users to connect and use your BBS. Also, broadband download speeds are fairly fast these days. So IMO it's not really taking up many resources if a user decides to download a bunch of files from your BBS these days. I occasionally see users download a bunch of files from my BBS, and I'm glad people are finding my BBS useful for something.
Nightfox
On 10-10-19 10:16, Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Thu Oct 10 2019 06:41 am
Hey at least I participate in the message bases rather than me just leeching files instead. What does that accomplish? When I ran a BBS before
These days, I don't think it really matters if a user wants to leech
files from your BBS. When you have a BBS set up on the internet, you
can set up basically as many nodes as you want for users to connect and use your BBS. Also, broadband download speeds are fairly fast these
days. So IMO it's not really taking up many resources if a user
decides to download a bunch of files from your BBS these days. I occasionally see users download a bunch of files from my BBS, and I'm
glad people are finding my BBS useful for something.
On 10-10-19 12:18, Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
message. I suppose it's not that difficult to remove text in a
web-based editor, but The Millionaire has also said he's using an iPad
- so on a touch screen, it might not be the easiest thing to select and delete text.
I agree it adds clutter, but we should also take into consideration
that different people are using different devices and editors that
could make it difficult to do some of the things that others might take for granted.
On 10-10-19 19:42, Gamgee wrote to Nightfox <=-
Again, doesn't really matter what method is used or needed, to
conform to proper posting practices. If it's not the easiest,
then perhaps the user needs to explore using other methods...
Yes, I understand that, but my outlook is that you do what you
need to do in order to do something properly. Doesn't matter what
that "something" is.
Vk3jed wrote to Gamgee <=-
Again, doesn't really matter what method is used or needed, to
conform to proper posting practices. If it's not the easiest,
then perhaps the user needs to explore using other methods...
There's a whole host of other possible factors. It IS 2019, and
we should be more inclusive. I believe, IIRC from his earlier
posts that TM has some physical disability or other issues that
make an iPad the most useable device for him. When a society
starts imposing their rules in an unreasonable manner (i.e.
without listening to people with specific needs), then I get very
annoyed, as I've spent a lifetime facing that (for me, BBSs were
one of the few places I did fit social norms).
Yes, I understand that, but my outlook is that you do what you
need to do in order to do something properly. Doesn't matter what
that "something" is.
So, we should tell wheelchair users they should use the stairs
while we're at it?
Btw Nightfox, I downloaded a bunch from you yesterday...so thank you! I found it very useful, I'll be a frequent visitor for sure.
I do suggest that if you can, connect via IPv6, you should get a faster connection that way. :)
There's a whole host of other possible factors. It IS 2019, and we should be more inclusive. I believe, IIRC from his earlier posts that TM has some physical disability or other issues that make an iPad the most useable device for him. When a society starts imposing their rules in an unreasonable manner (i.e. without listening to people with specific needs), then I get very annoyed, as I've spent a lifetime facing that (for me, BBSs were one of the few places I did fit social norms).
So, we should tell wheelchair users they should use the stairs while we're at it?
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I do suggest that if you can, connect via IPv6, you should get a faster connection that way. :)
Yes, don't we all?! Well, except for TM, I guess. ;-)
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I am starting to feel very disappointed with the way things turned out on FSXNet.
It means (F)un (S)imple E(X)perimental Network. But I wouldn't go there. They are rude, arrogant and ignorant people. They treat you like crap there.
Evil people all around the board. Stay away at all costs otherwise you'll be sorry you went there in the first place. You have been warned.
I am starting to feel very disappointed with the way things turned out
on FSXNet.
What exactly is "FSXNet"? I read it's connected to Fidonet, but it is not very clear what it is and what distinguishes from the rest of Fidonet.
It means (F)un (S)imple E(X)perimental Network. But I wouldn't go there. They are rude, arrogant and ignorant people. They treat you like crap there. Evil people all around the board. Stay away at all costs otherwise you'll be sorry you went there in the first place. You have been warned.
It means (F)un (S)imple E(X)perimental Network.
But I wouldn't go there.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Ash on Fri Oct 11 2019 04:16 pm
It seems you felt basically the same about Dove-Net not too long ago and you said you wanted to leave.. And more recently, you said Dove-Net is your home?
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FSXNet uses Fidonet technologies to exchange messages, but it's not connected to Fidonet. It's its own separate network.
Not sure where you read it's connected to Fidonet, or why it's not clear what FSXNet is?
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Oct 09 2019 18:11:35
I am starting to feel very disappointed with the way things turned out on FSXNet.
What exactly is "FSXNet"? I read it's connected to Fidonet, but it is not ve clear what it is and what distinguishes from the rest of Fidonet.
Re: FSXNet
By: Ash to The Millionaire on Fri Oct 11 2019 11:10 pm
it's a msg network ran by a newzealander
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So dont take one persons perception as truth.
There are many folks in FSX, and I would say the balance of people is heavil weight as not being as described above.
Check it out for yourself to come to your own conclusion.
The Millionaire wrote to Ash <=-
It means (F)un (S)imple E(X)perimental Network. But I wouldn't go
there. They are rude, arrogant and ignorant people. They treat
you like crap there. Evil people all around the board. Stay away
at all costs otherwise you'll be sorry you went there in the
first place. You have been warned.
Re: FSXNet
By: Alterego to Ash on Sat Oct 12 2019 10:51 am
well he was banned by the operator. did he warrant it.
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Other than the first sentence, every single word there above is
absolute bullshit.
FSXNet is a great place for intelligent folks to exchange messages
in a civilized and *NORMAL* manner.
The Millionaire is just peeved because he got banned for being an
all around pain in the ass.
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Other than the first sentence, every single word there above is
absolute bullshit.
FSXNet is a great place for intelligent folks to exchange messages
in a civilized and *NORMAL* manner.
The Millionaire is just peeved because he got banned for being an
all around pain in the ass.
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No. He handled it the wrong way. Do it in private not in public for everyone read.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Oct 11 2019 06:51 pm
but who fucking cares. it's just a bbs msg network.
why dont you get out of where you live and do some volunteer work. you need to get out and live life.
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MRO wrote to Alterego <=-
So dont take one persons perception as truth.
There are many folks in FSX, and I would say the balance of people is heavil weight as not being as described above.
Check it out for yourself to come to your own conclusion.
well he was banned by the operator. did he warrant it.
The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-
It seems you felt basically the same about Dove-Net not too long ago and you said you wanted to leave.. And more recently, you said Dove-Net is your home?
Yes. I did at one time. That's true. But it has toned down since
then.
The Millionaire wrote to MRO <=-
it's a msg network ran by a newzealander
Who is a snob by the way I might add. He thinks he's a real god
or something.
More bullshit. Avon is exactly the opposite of a "snob". Anyone
who frequents FSXNet will tell you the same.
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I have not seen any new posts from him there in multiple days, though.
Would you like some proof?
There's a whole host of other possible factors. It IS 2019, and we should be >more inclusive. I believe, IIRC from his earlier posts that TM has some >physical disability or other issues that make an iPad the most useable device >for him. When a society starts imposing their rules in an unreasonable manner >(i.e. without listening to people with specific needs), then I get very >annoyed, as I've spent a lifetime facing that (for me, BBSs were one of the few
places I did fit social norms).
I was more interested in the technical aspects, thus far I haven't heard anything that would entice me socially.
Honestly, I sort of took what I posted above as proof. I don't really
think we need to bring the actual dirt over from another network into this one.
Didn't you access fsxnet on Vert and not Paul's board anyway?
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Well yes. I actually did. But no one’s posting to me anyways. It’s like dead messaging there now.
$ The Millionaire $
On 10-11-19 08:08, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I understand what you're saying here, and I agree with it. All I
mean is that there is (should be?) a minimum acceptable limit on
how much a person's performance/behavior/ability can vary from
accepted norms before somebody has to say something about it.
For example, we (society) don't let a blind person pilot a
commercial aircraft. We don't let a paranoid schizophrenic
operate a child daycare center. Those restrictions do not amount
to "imposing rules in an unreasonable manner".
So, we should tell wheelchair users they should use the stairs
while we're at it?
No. That is not a valid/fair analogy. The corrected version of
what I'm getting at is this: Wheelchair users need to be on time
getting to work just like everyone else, regardless of whether you
get into the building via the stairs or the access ramp. If it
takes the wheelchair users a few minutes longer to get to their
desk from the parking lot, then they need to leave the house a few
minutes earlier. Nothing about that is "unreasonable".
So, to loop back to the original point here ... If it takes a user
a few minutes longer to properly post a message while using an
iPad, then... they should take a few minutes longer and do it
correctly.
On 10-11-19 09:41, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Oct 11 2019 08:45 pm
I do suggest that if you can, connect via IPv6, you should get a faster connection that way. :)
I haven't explored IPv6 much yet.. I probbaly should, as I know IPv4
is probably going to stop working at some point.
On 10-11-19 10:00, The Millionaire wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yes, I do have physical disability issues. I only have one left hand to
use to type with. My right shoulder is damaged for good and can't use
my right hand at all now and I also live in a care facility as well. So yes I believe it is 2019 and the world has changed in many ways now and
we should respect people like me but not concentrate on it at the same time. Like they said on the internet before, treat everyone the same no matter what colour, race, creed or religion.
On 10-11-19 16:00, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Oct 11 2019 08:45 pm
I do suggest that if you can, connect via IPv6, you should get a faster connection that way. :)
why is there a speed difference? does your isp throttle?
On 10-11-19 23:10, Ash wrote to The Millionaire <=-
What exactly is "FSXNet"? I read it's connected to Fidonet, but it is
not very clear what it is and what distinguishes from the rest of
Fidonet.
On 10-11-19 23:42, Ash wrote to The Millionaire <=-
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Ash on Fri Oct 11 2019 16:16:46
It means (F)un (S)imple E(X)perimental Network.
I mean, I understand the name, I am just wondering what distinguishes
from the rest of Fidonet?
e.g. Is it using some other protocol? Does it have some fancy new features?
But I wouldn't go there.
I was more interested in the technical aspects, thus far I haven't
heard anything that would entice me socially.
I was more interested in the technical aspects, thus far I haven't heard anything that would entice me socially.Technically, its no different to any other FTN network.
Re: FSXNet
By: Alterego to Ash on Sat Oct 12 2019 16:34:33
Oh, thank you for the insight! Do you know what makes fsxNet experimental?
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Oh, thank you for the insight! Do you know what makes fsxNet experimental?
The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
Other than the first sentence, every single word there above is
absolute bullshit.
FSXNet is a great place for intelligent folks to exchange messages
in a civilized and *NORMAL* manner.
The Millionaire is just peeved because he got banned for being an
all around pain in the ass.
Just don't come on my bbs or you will be banned too.
You don't have a BBS.
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What exactly is "FSXNet"? I read it's connected to Fidonet, but it is not very >lear what it is and what distinguishes from the rest of Fidonet.
it's a msg network ran by a newzealanderWho is a snob by the way I might add. He thinks he's a real god or something.
well he was banned by the operator. did he warrant it.
well he was banned by the operator. did he warrant it.
No. He handled it the wrong way. Do it in private not in public for everyone to
read.
You can try stuff (the skys the limit), and nobody cries about policy, protocol, technology violations, etc.
More bullshit. Avon is exactly the opposite of a "snob". Anyone
who frequents FSXNet will tell you the same.
He talks about every little thing he does and I don't think the users care for that too much.
Well yes. I actually did. But no one's posting to me anyways. It's like
dead messaging there now.
Another footnote is he goes to Christ Church. One of those weird churches ou there. Explains his personality.
Re: FSXNet
By: Alterego to Ash on Sat Oct 12 2019 16:34:33
I was more interested in the technical aspects, thus far I haven't heard anything that would entice me socially.Technically, its no different to any other FTN network.
Oh, thank you for the insight! Do you know what makes fsxNet experimental?
well he was banned by the operator. did he warrant it.
He acted like he does here, and he had some issues reposting the same messages multiple times. I will say this in his favor, there were some folks who are a little too sensitive and who could have easily ignored him i they did not like his posts. Instead, they got all up in arms about it.
Discussions there are not usually curtailed, but I would also say it is not quite as "free speach/anything goes" as maybe this network is.
He acted like he does here, and he had some issues reposting the same messages multiple times. I will say this in his favor, there were some folks who are a little too sensitive and who could have easily ignored hi
Respectfully, I have a request. Can you please observe how the rest of us tend to communicate here and make an attempt to assimilate? So many of your posts feel like spam. Frankly, it's annoying, and I thought you said you were leaving after a temper tantrum.
if you're just a user, perhaps fsxnet is not a network you want to be trying participate in... especially since you're not yet a sysop (again)...
On that, I agree, and the online medium has been another "leveller", rendering
physical disabilities "invisible". Welcome to my world. :)
You can try stuff (the skys the limit), and nobody cries about policy, protocol, technology violations, etc.
Ah, so in theory one could start adding additional header information or start sending information in UTF-8 wrapped in MIME encoding etc?
you can do that in most any FTN... the thing is why? no one else's systems can decode that stuff to anything readable...
if you're going to send UTF-8 or UTF-16, just send it...
folks think that today's internet tech is so much better but if they really looked under the hood, they'd see how primitive it really is...
just go look at it.
it doesnt have furries on there if that's what you are wondering.
Re: FSXNet
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Oct 12 2019 09:38 am
yes, dm is easy going.
i looked at fsxnet until i almost died of boredom. it's the same people here except for maybe 4 other guys.
he's conducting himself over there the same way as on dovenet.
they dont like millionaire's conversation starters.
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Re: FSXNet
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Oct 12 2019 09:38 am
yes, dm is easy going.
i looked at fsxnet until i almost died of boredom. it's the same people here except for maybe 4 other guys.
he's conducting himself over there the same way as on dovenet.
they dont like millionaire's conversation starters.
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Then they’re screwed up people if they don’t like active users. Avon told me to only post replies and not post any new messages. That sounds completely crazy to me.
$ The Millionaire $
Then they're screwed up people if they don't like active users. Avon told
me to only post replies and post any new messages. That sounds completely crazy to me.
Vk3jed wrote to Gamgee <=-
I understand what you're saying here, and I agree with it. All I
mean is that there is (should be?) a minimum acceptable limit on
how much a person's performance/behavior/ability can vary from
accepted norms before somebody has to say something about it.
The question is "how much?" And in historically recent times,
society has been defining those limits quite narroely in some
ways.
So, we should tell wheelchair users they should use the stairs
while we're at it?
No. That is not a valid/fair analogy. The corrected version of
what I'm getting at is this: Wheelchair users need to be on time
getting to work just like everyone else, regardless of whether you
get into the building via the stairs or the access ramp. If it
takes the wheelchair users a few minutes longer to get to their
desk from the parking lot, then they need to leave the house a few
minutes earlier. Nothing about that is "unreasonable".
And there's counter arguments, like what are the transport
options? Is it fair and reasonable to ask that person to be in
at that specific time, as opposed to negoting a more suitable
arrangement.
So, to loop back to the original point here ... If it takes a user
a few minutes longer to properly post a message while using an
iPad, then... they should take a few minutes longer and do it
correctly.
And my point still stands. Not knowing the circumstances, how
reasonable is that? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for high
standards of message editing, but individual circumstances need
to be taken into account. And remember what ASS U ME means. :)
The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
You don't have a BBS.
When I get it set up you're not welcome on it.
Dumas Walker wrote to THE MILLIONAIRE <=-
it's a msg network ran by a newzealander
Who is a snob by the way I might add. He thinks he's a real god or something.
There may be some on that network who feel that way about
themselves, but I have never had the impression that avon is one
of them.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Oct 12 2019 13:17:29
This doesn't seem like the full story to me.
Are you saying that you weren't told (I wouldn't know) specifically what you did wrong and ended up being told, "you can only reply now, kthxbye" ?
~Ash ∙ UwU ∙ Don't read everything you believe!
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How goes the plan of getting the MSP "in October"?
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All right, I promise I won't call.
How goes the plan of getting the MSP "in October"?
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able to transport binary without problems... an example is FTNs being able t carry netmail with binary files attached instead of them being UU, XX or mim encoded into text for the transport... all of those encoding methods also increase the size of the message because of the encoding... at least 1/3rd again... a 3Meg file attached to a message means 4Meg being transferred... that's crazy...
Then they're screwed up people if they don't like active users. Avon told
me to only post replies and post any new messages. That sounds completely cr to me.
Which is more your favorite version? I like KDE because it reminds me a lot of Windows. So my choice would be Kubuntu. What's yours?
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Oct 12 2019 13:17:29
Then they're screwed up people if they don't like active users. Avon told me to only post replies and post any new messages. That sounds completely crazy to me.
This doesn't seem like the full story to me.
Are you saying that you weren't told (I wouldn't know) specifically what you
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Oct 12 2019 01:17 pm
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You just don't get it, do you.
frank // netsurge
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and then i see this shit.
just dont associate with them. honestly that msg network is boring as shit. i read through a bunch of it.
most of the people left in bbsing are a bunch of posers that can't keep a system running and couldnt hack it in the old days.
there's no real users now and we're just clutching at pieces of the past and becoming more and more pathetic.
maybe just go find a forum that suits you instead of 'the bbs scene'
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You can try stuff (the skys the limit), and nobody cries about policy, protocol, technology violations, etc.Ah, so in theory one could start adding additional header information or start sending information in UTF-8 wrapped in MIME encoding etc?
On 10-12-19 13:32, Rampage wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i had a few users on my system back in the '80s and '90s that used mouthsticks for all their interaction... one didn't have both hands and one arm (industrial accident) and another was a quadraplegic (war
vet)... others had varying degrees of handicaps that affected their mobility and typing abilities... numerous ones of them dreamed of the
day when voice control and electronic dictation was a real thing...
then they would only need to weild a headset with a mic instead of all
the other mess they had to use back then...
i've had numerous deaf and/or non-sighted users over the years, too...
you generally can't tell because the medium removes all the visuals and audio cues while placing everyone on the same level playing field with
the same appearance from the other side of the screen...
On 10-12-19 13:47, Rampage wrote to Ash <=-
if you're going to send UTF-8 or UTF-16, just send it... FTNs have long been able to transport binary without problems... an example is FTNs
being able to carry netmail with binary files attached instead of them being UU, XX or mime encoded into text for the transport... all of
those encoding methods also increase the size of the message because of the encoding... at least 1/3rd again... a 3Meg file attached to a
message means 4Meg being transferred... that's crazy...
folks think that today's internet tech is so much better but if they really looked under the hood, they'd see how primitive it really is...
most of the people left in bbsing are a bunch of posers that can't keep a system running and couldnt hack it in the old days.
there's no real users now and we're just clutching at pieces of the past and becoming more and more pathetic.
maybe just go find a forum that suits you instead of 'the bbs scene'
On 10-12-19 14:17, Gamgee wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yes, the quantifying of such things is the difficult part. I do
agree that the "limits" have probably narrowed in recent times,
and that's a whole 'nother discussion probably...
However... in the case at hand with a certain person's behavior, I
do not think there's any doubt that lines have been crossed.
So, we should tell wheelchair users they should use the stairs
while we're at it?
And there's counter arguments, like what are the transport
options? Is it fair and reasonable to ask that person to be in
at that specific time, as opposed to negoting a more suitable
arrangement.
No, I don't think that's a valid counter argument. In my example
above, the wheelchair user does not (and should not) get any
further "breaks" as compared to a non-handicapped person. If you
want to work a particular job, you are expected to be on time to
work (what that time may be), regardless of how long your
transport time may be. If you have to allow additional time to
get to work, that's your problem. This is all assuming that
proper/required access routes (ramps vs stairs for example) are in
place. I'm almost not sure we're talking about the same thing
here... Are you saying that if the normal office "start time" is
8:00AM, the handicapped person shouldn't have to start until maybe
9:00AM? If so I don't agree with that at all.
expend more effort than other people. That's my whole point,
right there. Standards are standards.
Then they're screwed up people if they don't like active users. Avon told me to only post replies and post any new messages. That sounds
completely crazy to me.
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IΓÇÖm having so much fun like the network says. ItΓÇÖs a gas being here.
I finally found a home where I can feel welcome here. Thanks Avon for creating this place. Much appreciated in the long run. :-)
snip<=-
snip<=-
snip<=-
he's conducting himself over there the same way as on dovenet.
they dont like millionaire's conversation starters.
if you think about it, they are being mad at him for being an active user.
Then they're screwed up people if they don't like active users. Avon told
me to only post replies and post any new messages. That sounds completely crazy to me.
On 12 Oct 2019, The Millionaire said the following...
You may want to get your stories straight before insulting an entire active network, including the person who started it.
I have not commented, one way or another, on this topic, until now. When I feel that I'm being insulted by someone who knows absolutely NOTHING, about the people in involved in a network, then throws out insults towards everyone associated with that network, I will step in.
First of all, you received a message from Avon (Paul Hayton) stating not in address all of your message to him, as he did not have time to personally respond to all of them. Here is his message to you:
On 12 Sep 2019 at 08:28a, The Millionaire pondered and said...
Hi there, hey all good, and thanks for the positive feedback about the network.
Some feedback if I may...
Can I suggest rather than starting multiple posts asking an open question of me or someone else, you would perhaps get more enjoyment / engagement from some if you added your thoughts to existing threads running already.
By all means feel free to post a question etc. but I'm going be honest and say for all of the threads / questions you're posting addressed to me that cover a wide range of subjects... I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to respond to them all due to time I have available to commit to echomail etc.
Just wanted to you to be aware of that if you post a question to me asking what do I think of X and I don't necessarily respond to it. That's why.
Oh and is there anything I can do to help you with the mangled characters that seem to appear in some of your posts? Unsure what you're using to post with but it seems to be a consistent thing with some of the posts your sending. Looks like characters like " or ' etc.
After reading this message, you replied with:
Okay IΓÇÖll stop posting messages altogether and just read instead since itΓÇÖsbothersome it seems.
At what point in that message did Paul tell you not to post new messages?
To tell you the truth, I actually had no problems with your posts, until there ended up being multiple duplicate messages ending up in the net. Evidently there was some issue where you couldn't see them on your end.
I looked at you as someone who was trying to start conversations within the network.
Then you started throwing temper tantrums, and you lost my backing from me.
As far as I know, your access to the network was not cut. It's possible that DM cut your access on Vert, but I don't see him as being the type of person to do that to anyone.
So don't try spreading your version of the 'truth', so that you can try get sympathy from others. If you're going to try to tell people what happened, try telling them the truth, and not insulting any entire network because of your temper tantrums.
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Oct 12 2019 13:17:29
that doesn't make any sense... posting replies and new messages is exactly how messaging works :confused:
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address all of your message to him, as he did not have time to personally respond to all of them. Here is his message to you:
snip<=-
On 12 Sep 2019 at 08:28a, The Millionaire pondered and said...
I’m having so much fun like the network says. It’s a gas being here. I finally found a home where I can feel welcome here. Thanks Avon for creating this place. Much appreciated in the long run. :-)
Hi there, hey all good, and thanks for the positive feedback about the network.
Some feedback if I may...
Can I suggest rather than starting multiple posts asking an open question of me or someone else, you would perhaps get more enjoyment / engagement from some if you added your thoughts to existing threads running already.
So don't try spreading your version of the 'truth', so that you can try get sympathy from others. If you're going to try to tell people what happened, try telling them the truth, and not insulting any entire network because of your temper tantrums.
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Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Black Panther to The Millionaire on Sat Oct 12 2019 07:21 pm
maybe he looks up to the avon man and he really wants to know these answers. AND nobody is stopping other people from joining the conversation.
they were picking on him a bit.
you can see for yourself but the msg net is pretty boring.
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It was pretty boring that’s why I posted all those messages to liven things up a bit, I’m a conversationalist not a sadist.
$ The Millionaire $
The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
How goes the plan of getting the MSP "in October"?
Well I found out there's a battery drain problem with the MSP
now.
So now I'm shopping around for other ideas.
The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
How goes the plan of getting the MSP "in October"?
I'll be also starting a network up as well too.
Really? What kind of a battery drain problem does it have?
Well, you've had quite a few suggestions for other options
already, but be sure to keep us posted on what you come up with!
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Oh YAY!
Will you let me join?
What do you expect to call your new network, and what will be it's
focus?
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encoding methods also increase the size of the message because of the
encoding... at least 1/3rd again... a 3Meg file attached to a message
means 4Meg being transferred... that's crazy...
holy crap, good thing nobody ever did that on my system. i'd run out of floppy disks.
they dont like millionaire's conversation starters.
if you think about it, they are being mad at him for being an active user.
Then they're screwed up people if they don't like active users. Avon
told me to only post replies and post any new messages. That sounds
completely crazy to me.
This doesn't seem like the full story to me.
Are you saying that you weren't told (I wouldn't know) specifically what you did wrong and ended up being told, "you can only reply now, kthxbye" ?
How goes the plan of getting the MSP "in October"?
Well I found out there's a battery drain problem with the MSP now. So now I'm shopping around for other ideas.
just dont associate with them. honestly that msg network is boring as shit. i read through a bunch of it.
if you think about it, they are being mad at him for being an active user.
Oh, thank you for the insight! Do you know what makes fsxNet experimental?
You can try stuff (the skys the limit), and nobody cries about policy, protocol
technology violations, etc.
Ah, so in theory one could start adding additional header information or start >ending information in UTF-8 wrapped in MIME encoding etc?
Another footnote is he goes to Christ Church. One of those weird churches ou >> there. Explains his personality.
christchurch is a city you fucking idiot.
Oh, thank you for the insight! Do you know what makes fsxNet experimental?
just go look at it.
it doesnt have furries on there if that's what you are wondering.
Well I found out there's a battery drain problem with the MSP
now.
Really? What kind of a battery drain problem does it have?
I won't be able to run 24 hrs because I will use a tablet but I hope I can
run the network through ecweb4 and make it more easily accessible for
Re: FSXNet
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Sat Oct 12 2019 05:04 pm
just dont associate with them. honestly that msg network is boring as shit. i read through a bunch of it.
FSXNet doesn't seem that much different from Dove-Net. So if you think FSXN is boring, I imagine you probably think Dove-Net is boring too?
if you think about it, they are being mad at him for being an active user.
Someone pointed that out... that if he was on a less-active network his conversation starters might be a welcome alternative to the lack of activity.
You can try stuff (the skys the limit), and nobody cries about policy, protocol
technology violations, etc.
Well, I would not say nobody. I got cried at from a couple of folks for what I thought was an honest mistake, but one of them is no longer on the network and the other rarely participates now.
I have made a couple of other mistakes and didn't get chewed out by the folks who were there at the time (those other two were not <grin>).
Ah, so in theory one could start adding additional header information or st >ending information in UTF-8 wrapped in MIME encoding etc?
If you are testing something that does not break other people's machines, I would say you could probably do so.
The Millionaire wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
Well yes. I actually did. But no one's posting to me anyways. It's like
dead messaging there now.
$ The Millionaire $
This is what Paul Hayton looks like anyways:
https://www.librariesaotearoa.org.nz/korero-blog/paul-hayton-is-also-no- numpty
Another footnote is he goes to Christ Church. One of those weird
churches out there. Explains his personality.
Rampage wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i've had numerous deaf and/or non-sighted users over the years, too...
you generally can't tell because the medium removes all the visuals and audio cues while placing everyone on the same level playing field with
the same appearance from the other side of the screen...
The Millionaire was concerned
that leaving a tablet plugged into power all the time would damage the battery over time.
They all said in several conversations that they were adding me to their twitlists as well.
Battery drain on the Microsoft Surface Pro here:
I've been reading & posting on FSXNet, and there were people who explained to The Millionaire what they were frustrated about. So I don't think The Millionaire is completely in the dark about this.
I think he said he was getting a MSP in the fall. He still has a couple months or so.
if you think about it, they are being mad at him for being an active user.
Someone pointed that out... that if he was on a less-active network his conversation starters might be a welcome alternative to the lack of activity.
i think it's just a clique. maybe they should just become a closed msg network.
The Millionaire was concerned that leaving a tablet
plugged into power all the time would damage the battery over time.
I mean, it's true. But, it's the same with laptops...
Although the situation is kind of obvious; just take the battery out until you need it.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sat Oct 12 2019 02:47 pm
Did you say you're living in a care facility? I'm wondering if the easiest route might be to have a BBS hosted in the cloud (Marisa G here has a BBS hosting service, if you can afford that), and go ahead and buy a MSP and use it to remote login to your BBS server and manage it that way. Then you could have the portability of a tablet and a BBS that's on a stable server.
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I’ll look into it. I also thought about raspberry pie also. But it sounds maybe a little hard to set up for me.
$ The Millionaire $
Although the situation is kind of obvious; just take the battery out until you need it.not all laptops will run on commercial power without their batteries being installed...
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sat Oct 12 2019 02:47 pm
Did you say you're living in a care facility? I'm wondering if the easiest route might be to have a BBS hosted in the cloud (Marisa G here has a BBS hosting service, if you can afford that), and go ahead and buy a MSP and use it to remote login to your BBS server and manage it that way. Then you could have the portability of a tablet and a BBS that's on a stable server.
Nightfox
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i also think millionaire highlighted an issue with mystic bbs because it couldnt handle his utf-8 even though it was supposed to.
The Millionaire was concerned
that leaving a tablet plugged into power all the time would damage the
battery over time.
I mean, it's true. But, it's the same with laptops... Although the situation is kind of obvious; just take the battery out until you need it.
I think he said he was getting a MSP in the fall. He still has a
couple months or so.
ummm, it is fall ;)
https://www.google.com/search?q=first+day+of+fall+2019
Sept 23rd to Dec 21st this year...
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Rampage to Nightfox on Sun Oct 13 2019 09:03 am
Umm, that's what I was saying..
Nightfox
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Did you say you're living in a care facility? I'm wondering if the
easiest route might be to have a BBS hosted in the cloud (Marisa G
Could I also log in through my iPad as well?
Rampage wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i've had numerous deaf and/or non-sighted users over the years, too... you generally can't tell because the medium removes all the visuals and audio cues while placing everyone on the same level playing field with the same appearance from the other side of the screen...
Me, too - I had a deaf user donate a motherboard to my BBS when my old one fried, and as payment he just wanted to see the board and chat. Nice guy, he loved having a social medium he could participate in without any extra challenges.
indicates the same thing... on the one hand, it is being polite and telling plonkee that the plonker is not going to be reading and responding to the plonkee's posts any more... on the other hand, the plonker could have done t
i think it's just a clique. maybe they should just become a closed ms network.
uhh... they're *all* cliques... every BBS network is a clique these days... thing is that we operators are a minority group in the whole light of things some of us belong to more than one clique/network... some of us belong to on one... an extremely small number belong to no networks... but all in all, it all cliques in some way or another ;)
https://www.google.com/search?ei=QZuiXf6gDoXa-gSVorfwAg&q=microsoft+surfac e+pro +6+battery+drain&oq=microsoft+surface+pro+6+battery+dr&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz -serp
I'll look into it. I also thought about raspberry pie also. But it sounds maybe a little hard to set up for me.
Well the MSP 7 just came out recently and haven't heard any major problems so far except *****ing about certain options that people wanted that MS didn't implement. But it's a little pricey at $999 for 128gb atm.
i also think millionaire highlighted an issue with mystic bbs because it couldnt handle his utf-8 even though it was supposed to.
I wonder if he reported it as such? I don't remember reading about it, but I also don't run mystic so I might not have paid attention if it came up.
I also don't run mystic so I might not have paid attention if it came up.
I think he said he was getting a MSP in the fall. He still has a
couple months or so.
ummm, it is fall ;)
https://www.google.com/search?q=first+day+of+fall+2019
Sept 23rd to Dec 21st this year...
Umm, that's what I was saying..
The Millionaire recently mentioned that he wanted to have a mobile BBS, but it was suggested that it's best to leave a BBS machine plugged into power all the time so that it doesn't lose power. The Millionaire was concerned that leaving a tablet plugged into power all the time would damage the battery over time.I think there is a program for tablets where he could likely have a
Nightfox
On 10-13-19 06:41, The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-
@VIA: VERT
I'll look into it. I also thought about raspberry pie also. But it sounds maybe a little hard to set up for me.
$ The Millionaire $
They also have Banana Pie. These names make me hungry for dessert. LOL. :-P
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Pi
On 10-13-19 13:58, Ash wrote to Rampage <=-
@VIA: VERT/FLUFFY
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Rampage to Ash on Sun Oct 13 2019 09:18:01
Although the situation is kind of obvious; just take the battery out until you need it.not all laptops will run on commercial power without their batteries being installed...
Sure, but that's an edge case, I don't think it's common to see that anymore.
On 10-13-19 07:09, The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-
Could I also log in through my iPad as well?
On 10-13-19 13:22, Denn wrote to The Millionaire <=-
I made a Raspberry PI image a while back that has both Synchronet 3.17
and Mystic setup on it, the Image is Raspian for the OS.
if they dont like people who are different maybe they should make it a closed msg network.
i also think millionaire highlighted an issue with mystic bbs because it couldnt handle his utf-8 even though it was supposed to.
I wonder if he reported it as such? I don't remember reading about it, but I also don't run mystic so I might not have paid attention if it came up.
Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-
Well the MSP 7 just came out recently and haven't heard any major problems so far except *****ing about certain options that people wanted that MS didn't implement. But it's a little pricey at $999 for 128gb atm.
That's the thing about the Surface Pro, it's a pricey system.
I was considering the Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 with the keyboard caseWell the MSP 7 just came out recently and haven't heard any major problems
so far except *****ing about certain options that people wanted that MS didn't implement. But it's a little pricey at $999 for 128gb atm.
That's the thing about the Surface Pro, it's a pricey system.
On 10-13-19 07:09, The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-
Could I also log in through my iPad as well?
Technically yes. I don't know how Marisag sets up her servers, whether ther a GUI desktop or not. It would be better if there is in this case, because command line interfaces are very tedious to use from a tablet device. You j need a suitable client (VNC for graphical or SSH for text command line).
The question is how well you can manage the server from your iPad. That may need a trial on your part, but it's technically feasible.
Re: FSXNet
By: MRO to Rampage on Sun Oct 13 2019 02:38 pm
if they dont like people who are different maybe they should make it a closed msg network.
Reductio ad absurdium.
I didn't understand this message though:
I wonder if utf-8 is the reason I keep getting message header errors when tossing dovenet messages.
I was considering the Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 with the keyboard case attachment. I think I might do better with it than the Microsoft one. I
think it also has Dex/Ubuntu you can dual boot with it. Android and
Linux option for 908 bucks with 256gb option AND micro sd extra storage.
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Yea, its a little different to set up from the normal linux distro, you dont boot the iso like you would every other x86 or x64 os, lol. if you dont have any kind of sd or microsd reader, you'll need to buy one.I'll look into it. I also thought about raspberry pie also. But it sounds maybe a little hard to set up for me.
$ The Millionaire $
They also have Banana Pie. These names make me hungry for dessert. LOL. :-P
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Pi
$ The Millionaire $
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Sun Oct 13 2019 18:10:54
what's there to not understand? someone replaced an old noisy fridge with a new one... while doing that, they accidently pushed the fridge against the plug too hard and caused a power blink... that lead to the server machine being bounced and having to check/validate the file system... it did so but the x (executable) attribute was removed/missing on some files that needed it... nothing to it other than local vernacular...
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I don't think you can easily remove the battery from a tablet. And I used to have a Microsoft Surface tablet, and I don't think there was a way to open it.
what's there to not understand? someone replaced an old noisy fridge with a new one... while doing that, they accidently pushed the fridge against the plug too hard and caused a power blink... that lead to the server machine being bounced and having to check/validate the file system... it did so but the x (executable) attribute was removed/missing on some files that needed it... nothing to it other than local vernacular...
)\/(ark
Man your server uses electricity?? What archaic technology. Can't you run it on solar energy?
Ya know ... keeping it green. Save the planet and all
that?? ;-)
He titled the post "Synchromess" making fun of DM's BBS.
Man your server uses electricity?? What archaic technology. Can't you run it on solar energy? Ya know ... keeping it green. Save the planet and all that?? ;-)
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Mon Oct 14 2019 12:20:43
so what? he was blowing off some steam after the problem happened and he was able to figure out the fix... no big deal :shrug:
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By insulting the author who created the software? Pretty cheap shot at DM don't you think?
On 10-13-19 06:41, The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-
@VIA: VERT
I'll look into it. I also thought about raspberry pie also. But it sounds maybe a little hard to set up for me.
$ The Millionaire $
They also have Banana Pie. These names make me hungry for dessert. LOL. :-P
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Pi
LOL good one. I run this BBS on a Banana Pi. :)
It's not a bad option. You will need to get familiar with Linux, but the default installation of Raspian that I use had a VNC enabled desktop, which could access from your MSP. For a beginner to Linux and the Pi like yoursel it would be idea if you had someone local to show you the ropes.
... A lobster is a crawfish on steroids.
Technically yes. I don't know how Marisag sets up her servers, whether theres a GUI desktop or not. It would be better if there is in this case, because command line interfaces are very tedious to use from a tablet device. You just need a suitable client (VNC for graphical or SSH for text command line).
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Vk3jed to The Millionaire on Mon Oct 14 2019 10:33:00
There is no desktop pre-installed. You can manage it using my SMC tool, which you can access from ssh into your shell account...
Marisa
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So there’s no preinstalled version of Synchronet on it?
$ The Millionaire $
so what? he was blowing off some steam after the problem happened and he was able to figure out the fix... no big deal :shrug:
By insulting the author who created the software?
There is no desktop pre-installed. You can manage it using my SMC tool, which you can access from ssh into your shell account...
So there's no preinstalled version of Synchronet on it?
I think some retailers sell pre-configured Pi-hole kits. All that's left is setting up your preferences and downloading a block list.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Rampage on Mon Oct 14 2019 15:21:00
what makes you thin khe was insulting the author? i think DM is the only one who can decide if he is insulted by someone or not... he doesn't need others assuming things for him ;)
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On 10-13-19 23:06, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Vk3jed to The Millionaire on Mon Oct 14 2019 10:33 am
On 10-13-19 07:09, The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-
Could I also log in through my iPad as well?
Technically yes. I don't know how Marisag sets up her servers, whether ther a GUI desktop or not. It would be better if there is in this case, because command line interfaces are very tedious to use from a tablet device. You j need a suitable client (VNC for graphical or SSH for text command line).
The question is how well you can manage the server from your iPad. That may need a trial on your part, but it's technically feasible.
that's probably the best bet for him, but i dont know if he could
handle it financially.
On 10-14-19 23:20, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I think some retailers sell pre-configured Pi-hole kits. All that's
left is setting up your preferences and downloading a block list.
On 10-14-19 13:48, Nightfox wrote to HusTler <=-
Perhaps you meant electricity from the wall vs. solar? A lot of power plants still burn coal & such. Speaking of which, occasionally I hear about how nuclear technology has come a long way in being safer.
On 10-15-19 03:23, Marisag wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Vk3jed to The Millionaire on Mon Oct 14 2019 10:33:00
Technically yes. I don't know how Marisag sets up her servers, whether theres a GUI desktop or not. It would be better if there is in this case, because command line interfaces are very tedious to use from a tablet device. You just need a suitable client (VNC for graphical or SSH for text command line).
There is no desktop pre-installed. You can manage it using my SMC tool, which you can access from ssh into your shell account...
On 10-14-19 13:48, Nightfox wrote to HusTler <=-
Perhaps you meant electricity from the wall vs. solar? A lot of power plants still burn coal & such. Speaking of which, occasionally I hear about how nuclear technology has come a long way in being safer.
I have seen ideas for new reactor types that are supposed to be safer and mo tolerant to infrastructure failure (e.g. cooling pumps stopping). But for fission reactors, there is still the issue of nuclear waste. The ideal way handle that is to use nuclear processes to break them down into more stable (and safer!) elements, which has the nice byproduct of acting as another typ of nuclear fuel. But from what I've read, that would probably require a sou of additional neutrons to stimulate the additional stage(s) of fission.
I'm no nuclear expert, but I do try and keep up with technologies.
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Wednesday, October 16, 2019 02:43:17
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Guess who showed up this morning on Vertrauen reading messages?
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Guess who showed up this morning on Vertrauen reading messages?
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Oct 16 2019 08:32 am
he's stalking you
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Oct 16 2019 08:32 am
And this is important because...?
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Oct 16 2019 08:32 am
he's stalking you
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Oct 16 2019 08:32 am
Please Stop.
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So there's no preinstalled version of Synchronet on it?
Do you accept anything other than PayPal?
On 10-16-19 12:58, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-
When Obama put the final nail in using Yucca Mountain as a spent fuel repository, that screwed over several nuclear plants that do not have
And this is important because...?
Kinda suspicious don't you think? I mean the timing is kinda obvious.
he's stalking you
It figures. Probably stalking everyone now.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Oct 16 2019 08:32 am
he's stalking you
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It figures. Probably stalking everyone now.
I'll stop when he owns up to his own actions and publicly apologizes to me i public like I did to him twice in front of everyone on FSXNet.
some messages. You also thought Digital Man was stalking you based on his online status, and I think you were reading too much into that too.
The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Wed Oct 16 2019 08:32 am
And this is important because...?
Kinda suspicious don't you think? I mean the timing is kinda
obvious.
The Millionaire wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Please Stop.
I'll stop when he owns up to his own actions and publicly
apologizes to me in public like I did to him twice in front of
everyone on FSXNet.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Marisag on Tue Oct 15 2019 09:37:10
Sure, what do you have in mind?
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Quit acting like a fuckin child you idiot.
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Oct 16 2019 04:02 pm
you guys should just agree to fight in a mcdonalds parkinglot.
that's how i handle all my problems.
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Re: FSXNet
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 16 2019 05:09 pm
yes, but it ended up that millionaire WAS right and Digital Man WAS stalking him. even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Oct 16 2019 04:02 pm
you guys should just agree to fight in a mcdonalds parkinglot.
that's how i handle all my problems.
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Jesus, you really are stupid. Seriously delusional. Get some
medical help and please STFU.
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Re: FSXNet
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 16 2019 05:09 pm
yes, but it ended up that millionaire WAS right and Digital Man WAS stalking him. even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Just wanted to know your options.
I have seen ideas for new reactor types that are supposed to be safer and more >tolerant to infrastructure failure (e.g. cooling pumps stopping). But for >fission reactors, there is still the issue of nuclear waste. The ideal way to
Guess who showed up this morning on Vertrauen reading messages?
Avon
Wednesday, October 16, 2019 02:43:17
from Dunedin via Telnet
you guys should just agree to fight in a mcdonalds parkinglot.
that's how i handle all my problems.
I'll stop when he owns up to his own actions and publicly apologizes to me i public like I did to him twice in front of everyone on FSXNet.
you guys should just agree to fight in a mcdonalds parkinglot.
that's how i handle all my problems.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Marisag on Wed Oct 16 2019 19:31:19
Oh ok. Looking for hosting?
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This is in USD I take it right? I'm in Canada.
What if I want to draw ansis or use a 3rd party software because I have an IPad atm?
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Marisag on Thu Oct 17 2019 06:13:18
I don't know of any ansi editors for iOS, though you could admin your BBS from a iPad using a ssh client...
Marisa
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Well would I be able to add an ansi editor to the server but then that counts to my space doesn't it?
Re: FSXNet
By: MRO to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 16 2019 08:13 pm
you guys should just agree to fight in a mcdonalds parkinglot.
that's how i handle all my problems.
Yep. Take it outside and handle it with fists.
It figures. Probably stalking everyone now.
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What if I want to draw ansis or use a 3rd party software because I have an >> IPad atm?
I don't know of any ansi editors for iOS, though you could admin your BBS from
iPad using a ssh client...
On 10-16-19 12:58, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-
When Obama put the final nail in using Yucca Mountain as a spent fuel repository, that screwed over several nuclear plants that do not have
My point is that we should be smarter about spent fuel. The radioactivity i energy potential that's being wasted, but the isotopes aren't reactive enoug to form a self sustaining chain reaction, or they may be too unstable at critical mass to safely react (we don't want an accidental bomb!). They nee some help, usually in the form of additional neutrons.
The goal would be two fold:
1. Render the spent fuel safer, so that long (as in decades to millennia) t storage isn't needed, just a relatively short period.
2. Harness the extra energy potential in the spent fuel.
... Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible.
On 10-16-19 19:20, Dumas Walker wrote to VK3JED <=-
I have seen some ideas for a reactor that would use waste for their
fuel. Specifically, there used to be a plutonium enrichment facility in Western Kentucky. A fellow from Microsoft has suggested that there are reactor types which can use all of the waste that is currently being
kept at that facility (with no good current use) as fuel and also would
be the type where the reactions can stop themselves when too much heat becomes a problem.
I have always heard that waste refered to as "spent," and it could be uranium rather than plutonium, but it must not be completely spent if
it can still sustain some sort of reaction. They give the impression
that there would be no waste after this "second use," but I wonder
about that.
I believe this type of reactor is of the same type that was
successfully tested at a facility in Idaho, USA, in April of 1986.
They intentionally turned off the cooling system to the reactor, and
the reaction stopped itself. That date is important as, while they
were having success, unknown to them Chernobyl was busy melting down on the other side of the world. Their success was overshadowed by that
and not much effort was put into it after that.
On 10-17-19 22:44, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Fuel rod assemblies get rotated out because their performance drops
below a certain level of efficiency. It's like having an old furnace
that puts out mo re soot than it does suitable heat. I've read there
are companies that would like to combine plutonium from decommissioned nuclear warheads with spent fuel rods to create new fuel assemblies, however I haven't read about any tests done regarding how efficient or
how clean or dity they may be versus sta ndard fuel sources. If no one wants to take the chance and do all the leg work and research (and
spend the $$$$ needed) before sending a proposal to the
NRC regarding the use of such fuel, it may be awhile before anyone
adopts them.
On 10-16-19 20:13, MRO wrote to The Millionaire <=-
you guys should just agree to fight in a mcdonalds parkinglot.
that's how i handle all my problems.
Vk3jed wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
There is such a thing as a "subcritical reactor", which means it won't produce significant energy, unless an external source of neutrons is applied. It does mean that if the power is turned off, the reactor
simply shuts down. I don't know if there's enough heat from
radioactive decay to cause a problem, but a Chernobyl style spike in reaction is impossible with this type of reactor.
There is such a thing as a "subcritical reactor", which means it won't produce >significant energy, unless an external source of neutrons is applied. It does >mean that if the power is turned off, the reactor simply shuts down. I don't >know if there's enough heat from radioactive decay to cause a problem, but a >Chernobyl style spike in reaction is impossible with this type of reactor.
Does anyone know what happened to Carol Shenkenberger? She used to be on Dove-Net years ago.
i dont show up, because i'm tired and i work 2 jobs. but i make sure
they make a video of them waiting for me and upload it to facebook.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Fri Oct 18 2019 09:33 am
I don't remember if I saw her on Dove-Net or not, but I seem to remember her being a net coordinator on FidoNet. I thought she was still doing that, but I'm not sure.
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Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-
Does anyone know what happened to Carol Shenkenberger? She used to be on Dove-Net years ago.
I don't remember if I saw her on Dove-Net or not, but I seem to
remember her being a net coordinator on FidoNet. I thought she
was still doing that, but I'm not sure.
On 10-17-19 22:44, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Fuel rod assemblies get rotated out because their performance drops below a certain level of efficiency. It's like having an old furnace that puts out mo re soot than it does suitable heat. I've read there are companies that would like to combine plutonium from decommissioned nuclear warheads with spent fuel rods to create new fuel assemblies, however I haven't read about any tests done regarding how efficient or how clean or dity they may be versus sta ndard fuel sources. If no one wants to take the chance and do all the leg work and research (and spend the $$$$ needed) before sending a proposal to the
NRC regarding the use of such fuel, it may be awhile before anyone adopts them.
I have seen ideas, but the question always is whether someone can see profit it, and these days, "nuclear" is a bit of a dirty word in the post Chernobyl and Fukashima age, which puts people, especially governments and those with money, off.
So the question is whether nuclear will become viable in the future energy m and whether these newer ideas for safer and more environmentally friendly reactors will be researched and adopted.
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Vk3jed wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
There is such a thing as a "subcritical reactor", which means it won't produce significant energy, unless an external source of neutrons is applied. It does mean that if the power is turned off, the reactor simply shuts down. I don't know if there's enough heat from radioactive decay to cause a problem, but a Chernobyl style spike in reaction is impossible with this type of reactor.
One of the technical "suspensions of disbelief" I have when watching The Walking Dead is to think that every nuclear reactor probably wouldn't have been shut down cleanly and has probably melted down in the 7 years the show has been on.
... When is it for?
That sounds correct. There was also another type of reactor that was mentioned that also uses less volatile material and also has some sort of mechanical/gravity dependent cooling system. If, say the power goes out,
and the reaction starts to go critical, it is able to regulate itself & turn itself off without power. That one was discussed when Fukishima (sp?) came into the discussion. I cannot remember exactly how it worked but I believe when the temperature reached a certain value it would, by default, release the cooling water & kill the reaction. That bit was a mechanical mechanism that did not require any power source.
I may not have that right. The US public broadcaster PBS had an episode of one of their science shows (probably NOVA) that covered at least two types
of "safe(r)" reactors about a year ago. I am not a big fan of nuke power because of the potential consequences, but that show was interesting and
made me wonder if there was not some use for it (and also a way to get rid
of some of the current waste we have lying about in the US).
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Does anyone know what happened to Carol Shenkenberger? She used to be on Dove-Net years ago.
From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Avon on Friday, October 18, 2019 12:24:27
Re: Re: Code of Conduct?
By: Avon to Blue White on Fri Oct 18 2019 12:57 pm
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Fri Oct 18 2019 06:21 pm
[...]SNIP
What in the ever-loving fuck was that?
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Does anyone know what happened to Carol Shenkenberger? She used to be on Dove-Net years ago.
I don't remember if I saw her on Dove-Net or not, but I seem to remember her being a net
coordinator on FidoNet. I thought she was still doing that, but I'm not sure.
Does anyone know what happened to Carol Shenkenberger? She used to be on Dove-Net years ago.
$ The Millionaire $
Well apparently she's on FSXNet instead. Wondered why she dropped Dove-Net? She's still using Synchronet BBS though.
From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Avon on Friday, October 18, 2019 12:24:27
Re: Re: Code of Conduct?
By: Avon to Blue White on Fri Oct 18 2019 12:57 pm
In respect to 'avoid' the issue for me is that in this medium you can't real
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Fri Oct 18 2019 06:21 pm
stop posting msgs from other nets into dovenet.
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Oct 18 2019 11:22 am
why you keep talking about fsxnet
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Fri Oct 18 2019 09:33 am
i made him/her quit
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why you keep talking about fsxnet
stop posting msgs from other nets into dovenet.
It's called proof of evidence.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 08:20 pm
You wanted to... prove that there's evidence? Of what exactly? And if people want to see that, they can go read it on FSXNet..
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The Millionaire wrote to MRO <=-
stop posting msgs from other nets into dovenet.
It's called proof of evidence.
No, it's called: You continue to prove you're an idiot.
Please go away.
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Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-
I don't remember if I saw her on Dove-Net or not, but I seem to
remember her being a net coordinator on FidoNet. I thought she was
still doing that, but I'm not sure.
The Millionaire wrote to MRO <=-
It's called proof of evidence.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Fri Oct 18 2019 06:21 pm
stop posting msgs from other nets into dovenet.
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It's called proof of evidence.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Oct 18 2019 11:22 am
why you keep talking about fsxnet
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Because they're still talking about me.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to All on Fri Oct 18 2019 09:33 am
i made him/her quitYou gonna make DM quit next? Is that on your agenda?
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 08:20 pm
You wanted to... prove that there's evidence? Of what exactly? And if people want to see that, they can go read it on FSXNet..
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That you are a double sided high density floppy disk. You say you agree with Paul and will eventually get tired of the ongoing behaviour? Sounds like a pretty good case of the influenza here to me. But guess what? There's no cur for this one and you will never recover from it.
That you are a double sided high density floppy disk. You say you agree with Paul and will eventually get tired of the ongoing behaviour? Sounds
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sat Oct 19 2019 04:32 am
That you are a double sided high density floppy disk. You say you agree with Paul and will eventually get tired of the ongoing behaviour? Sound
There's often 2 sides to every story. I can often see both sides, even if I don't agree with both.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 08:21 pm
arent you a grown fucking man? ignore them.
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 08:24 pm
yep, now ya know.
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Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 08:21 pm
arent you a grown fucking man? ignore them.
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If I ignore them, who do I talk to then? There won't be anyone left. *sighs*
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 08:24 pm
yep, now ya know.
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What happens to Dovenet then?
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri Oct 18 2019 11:22 am
Well apparently she's on FSXNet instead. Wondered why she dropped Dove- She's still using Synchronet BBS though.
why you keep talking about fsxnet
On 18 Oct 2019, MRO said the following...
Seconded. This is getting very annoying.
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arent you a grown fucking man? ignore them.
If I ignore them, who do I talk to then? There won't be anyone left. *sighs*
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Sat Oct 19 2019 01:22 pm
So what you're saying is, it's not them, it's you?
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stop posting msgs from other nets into dovenet.
It's called proof of evidence.
You wanted to... prove that there's evidence? Of what exactly? And if people want to see that, they can go read it on FSXNet..
On 10-18-19 05:55, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
One of the technical "suspensions of disbelief" I have when watching
The Walking Dead is to think that every nuclear reactor probably
wouldn't have been shut down cleanly and has probably melted down in
the 7 years the show has been on.
On 10-18-19 09:44, Dumas Walker wrote to VK3JED <=-
That sounds correct. There was also another type of reactor that was mentioned that also uses less volatile material and also has some sort
of mechanical/gravity dependent cooling system. If, say the power goes out, and the reaction starts to go critical, it is able to regulate
itself & turn itself off without power. That one was discussed when Fukishima (sp?) came into the discussion. I cannot remember exactly
how it worked but I believe when the temperature reached a certain
value it would, by default, release the cooling water & kill the
reaction. That bit was a mechanical mechanism that did not require any power source.
I may not have that right. The US public broadcaster PBS had an
episode of one of their science shows (probably NOVA) that covered at least two types of "safe(r)" reactors about a year ago. I am not a big fan of nuke power because of the potential consequences, but that show
was interesting and made me wonder if there was not some use for it
(and also a way to get rid of some of the current waste we have lying about in the US).
On 10-18-19 14:56, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-
It's really sad that Fukashima happened when it did. The plant I was working at had their license extended to run until 2037, and had a planning project to add a third reactor on the property. Obama applied the first nails by killing Yucca Mountain, and Fukashima did the rest
to change the power company's mind. Besides, the property for the
third reactor site had to be re-purposed for onsite dry cask storage needed to run another 20 years.
On 10-18-19 18:21, The Millionaire wrote to All <=-
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From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Avon on Friday, October 18, 2019 12:24:27
Re: Re: Code of Conduct?
By: Avon to Blue White on Fri Oct 18 2019 12:57 pm
Re: FSXNet
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Fri Oct 18 2019 10:29 pm
Just for example I don't read FSXNet nor do I carry it on by BBS's
so I agree 100% with you Nightfox we should'nt bring it here on Dove-net.
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You’re a smart man then not to carry FSXNet.
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Posting messages outside the network of origin without permission is considered poor behaviour at best and is explicitly banned in many places. It's only one away from reposting private netmail to a public forum without consent.
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Re: FSXNet
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Fri Oct 18 2019 10:29 pm
stop posting msgs from other nets into dovenet.
It's called proof of evidence.
You wanted to... prove that there's evidence? Of what exactly? And if people want to see that, they can go read it on FSXNet..
Just for example I don't read FSXNet nor do I carry it on by BBS's
so I agree 100% with you Nightfox we should'nt bring it here on Dove-net.
Posting messages outside the network of origin without permission is
considered poor behaviour at best and is explicitly banned in many
They do the exact same thing over there about Dovenet and Synchronet posts.
On 10-20-19 20:46, The Millionaire wrote to Vk3jed <=-
@VIA: VERT
*BIG SNIP*
Posting messages outside the network of origin without permission is considered poor behaviour at best and is explicitly banned in many places. It's only one away from reposting private netmail to a public forum without consent.
They do the exact same thing over there about Dovenet and Synchronet posts.
Re: FSXNet
By: Denn to Nightfox on Sat Oct 19 2019 11:17 pm
i asked them nicely to take him back. we'll see what happens.
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The Millionaire wrote to Vk3jed <=-
It's only one away from reposting private netmail to a public forum
without consent.
They do the exact same thing over there about Dovenet and Synchronet posts.
Pointing out mistakes elsewhere (without any proof, I might add) doesn't
make your posting FSXnet threads here any less wrong.
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The Millionaire wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Posting messages outside the network of origin without permission is considered poor behaviour at best and is explicitly banned in many places. It's only one away from reposting private netmail to a public forum without consent.
They do the exact same thing over there about Dovenet and
Synchronet posts.
Bullshit.
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Oh I see well then you're not any better than the rest of them then. You all spy on me and gossip monger behind my back and report what I talk
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Vk3jed on Sun Oct 20 2019 08:46 pm
Posting messages outside the network of origin without permission is
considered poor behaviour at best and is explicitly banned in many
They do the exact same thing over there about Dovenet and Synchronet posts.
I've never seen anyone there copy & paste messages from Dove-Net.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Oct 21 2019 06:39 am
Honestly, I don't think this whole thing is really important enough for anyone to want to spy on you. I don't think anyone really wants to take the time in their busy day for that.
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I've never seen anyone there copy & paste messages from Dove-Net.
Neither have I. Neither has anyone else. More delusional BS from TM.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Sun Oct 20 2019 09:27 pm
Neither have I. Neither has anyone else. More delusional BS from TM.
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Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Oct 21 2019 01:51 pm
And of course, he downvoted my message (and continues to upvote all of his own messages)..
Nightfox
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Honestly, I don't think this whole thing is really important enough
for anyone to want to spy on you. I don't think anyone really wants
to take the time in their busy day for that.
Would you like proof? Read the Millionaire thread on FSXNet. Nodoka Hanamura said he saw me on Dovenet. I consider that spying. So what if I'm on Dovenet? What's so important about where I am?
Then Blue White is saying I am posting messages because I'm angry about what happened on FSXNet on Dovenet. What's it to him for? I consider that gossip mongering.
They do the exact same thing over there about Dovenet and Synchronet posts.
Re: Re: FSXNetWould you like proof? Read the Millionaire thread on FSXNet. Nodoka Hanamura said he saw me on Dovenet. I consider that spying. So what if
By: The Millionaire to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Oct 21 2019 06:39 am
Oooh boy. Now the kid gloves are off.
On 21 Oct 2019, The Millionaire said the following...
First of all, I'm a she. Second of all, DOVENET is a public network, you shitgibbon. So is FSXNET. Anyone can join DOVENET or access dovenet from any connected QWK node. I joined DoveNET with my BBS so I and what few users I have can access something other than the local and FSXNET message nets, and for me to learn QWK networking with Mystic. Not so I could play lookie-loo with some paranoid lunatic who thinks I give half a rat's back-end about him and his whinery about how FSXNET maintains itself. I tried to keep relatively mum about this for as long as possible, as I made a promise to someone in the scene related to the sitaution that I would, but I cannot, in good conscience, let you continue to tarnish the name of the network, and of myself and my contemporaries.
I usually just ignore people like you, but you are a serious detriment to both FSXNET and DOVENET. This 'spying' you accuse me of, and Blue White being a 'gossip mongerer' is argumentum ad hominem! But then again, this is par for the course with you since you thought Avon went to "CHRIST CHURCH", and not to CHRISTCHURCH, NEW ZEALAND! You immediately thought him a religious zealot, and proceeded to attack him thereby. From that point forward, I threw away any benefit of the doubt to your complaints since you had no leg to stand on.
Furthermore, you posted in DOVENET, saying that Avon had connected to Vertrauen, awhile back. You accuse me of 'spying', and yet you publicly announce the fact that you're stalking the man? Didn't your mother ever teach you not to throw stones out of glass houses?
At first I didn't want to get involved, but now, I'm hoping to god that DM bans you from the network, and all involved SYSOPs do the same. You spew vitriol and ad hominem when you don't get your way, and when you're accused of not being right in the head (When you clearly are), you deny it.
You've violated Rule 1 of this network (Excessive personal attacks), and I'm pretty close to the fire myself with this tirade, but I'm not going to sit here and have someone put words and actions in my mouth, and neither will I let this circus of yours continue without appropriate rebuke.
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On 10-18-19 05:55, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
One of the technical "suspensions of disbelief" I have when watching The Walking Dead is to think that every nuclear reactor probably wouldn't have been shut down cleanly and has probably melted down in the 7 years the show has been on.
I don't know the show, but that sounds like a bit of a plot hole. :)
... Death, when unnecessary, is a tragic thing.
I hope they ban you permanently for the way you treat people. You don't need to swear so you sound all so cool. I'm glad they bombed Hiroshima and Pearl Harbour. Taught you people a few lessons about life. How about when
others. You don't even know how much power I really have. I have connections to a lot of powerful people. So don't try to even mess with me.
Posting messages outside the network of origin without permission is considered poor behaviour at best and is explicitly banned in many places. It's only one away from reposting private netmail to a public forum withou consent.
They do the exact same thing over there about Dovenet and Synchronet posts.
i asked them nicely to take him back. we'll see what happens.Ya gots sum repliez dude. :-)
Oh I see well then you're not any better than the rest of them then. You all spy on me and gossip monger behind my back and report what I talk about on Dovenet on FSXNet to Paul Hatehim is pretty much I believe is the same exact thing looks to me.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Nodoka Hanamura on Mon Oct 21 2019 04:12 pm
I hope they ban you permanently for the way you treat people. You don't need to swear so you sound all so cool. I'm glad they bombed Hiroshima and Pearl Harbour. Taught you people a few lessons about life. How about when
Wow, if that's not a statement of hate speech, it at least seems to border on it. You don't like what someone said, so your response is "I'm glad they bombed your people"? Really? Now I really am convinced you're a nutcase, as you can't seem to be civil.
How about the fact that the Hiroshima & Nagasaki bombings were the only time nuclear weapons have ever been used in combat?
When I retire, I hope I'm not so bored that I resort to causing drama like this.
others. You don't even know how much power I really have. I have connections to a lot of powerful people. So don't try to even mess with me.
You've said things like that, but never really explained who your connections are or how you have so much power. What are you going to do? And if you have so much power, why couldn't you stop those people you complained so much about who were emailing you on Vertrauen?
Nightfox
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Mon Oct 21 2019 04:17 am
unlike you, i dont give a shit.
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Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Mon Oct 21 2019 04:52 pm
I'm not even Japanese (Nodoka Hanamura is merely an alias I use online, stemming from my love for the country) but regardless, i'm not surprised by his behavior. The man's unhinged and it'd be for the best if All involved either ignored him or told Digital Man to show him the door.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Oct 21 2019 06:39 am
you sound like a fucking 10 year old.
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Re: Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Vk3jed on Sun Oct 20 2019 08:46 pm
if they jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?
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Would you like proof? Read the Millionaire thread on FSXNet. Nodoka Hanamura said he saw me on Dovenet. I consider that spying. So what if I'm on Dovenet What's so important about where I am?
happened on FSXNet on Dovenet. What's it to him for? I consider that gossip mongering.
First of all, I'm a she. Second of all, DOVENET is a public network, you
You've violated Rule 1 of this network (Excessive personal attacks), and I'm pretty close to the fire myself with this tirade, but I'm not going to sit here and have someone put words and actions in my mouth, and neither will I let this circus of yours continue without appropriate rebuke.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Mon Oct 21 2019 04:17 am
unlike you, i dont give a shit.Neither do I.
Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Mon Oct 21 2019 07:14 pm
then fucking shut up. you make me want to get on a plane and disable your other arm so you cant write here.
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I hope they ban you permanently for the way you treat people. You don't need
to swear so you sound all so cool. I'm glad they bombed Hiroshima and Pearl Harbour. Taught you people a few lessons about life. How about when you people invaded China and murdered a lot of people? I know
it's ancient history. So look at yourself in the mirror first before you look at others. You don't
even know how much power I really have. I have connections to a lot of powerful people. So don't try to even mess with me.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: The Millionaire to Nodoka Hanamura on Mon Oct 21 2019 04:12 pm
DM, I think this has gone on long enough. It would be great if you stepped in here to stop it.
...δεσ*
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The Millionaire wrote to Nodoka Hanamura <=-
You've violated Rule 1 of this network (Excessive personal attacks), and I'm pretty close to the fire myself with this tirade, but I'm not going to sit here and have someone put words and actions in my mouth, and neither will I let this circus of yours continue without appropriate rebuke.
I hope they ban you permanently for the way you treat people. You
don't need to swear so you sound all so cool. I'm glad they
bombed Hiroshima and Pearl Harbour. Taught you people a few
lessons about life. How about when you people invaded China and
murdered a lot of people? I know it's ancient history. So look at
yourself in the mirror first before you look at others. You don't
even know how much power I really have. I have connections to a
lot of powerful people. So don't try to even mess with me.
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
I've never seen anyone there copy & paste messages from Dove-Net.
Neither have I. Neither has anyone else. More delusional BS from TM.
And of course, he downvoted my message (and continues to upvote
all of his own messages)..
<SNIP>
This is over the top and unacceptable.
You don't come in here and spew that kind of hate speech, and get
away with it. And then you puff out your chest and THREATEN
people? If you're so tough, PM me and I'll give you my address so
you can come visit me.
I'll make a public request right here and now to have you banned
permanently from DoveNet. This crap has gone on long enough.
... Ignorance can be cured. Stupid is forever.
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Oh I see well then you're not any better than the rest of them then. You all spy on me and gossip monger behind my back and report what I talk about on Dovenet on FSXNet to Paul Hatehim is pretty much I believe is the same exact thing looks to me.
Honestly, I don't think this whole thing is really important enough for anyone >o want to spy on you. I don't think anyone really wants to take the time in th
ir busy day for that.
Then Blue White is saying I am posting messages because I'm angry about what happened on FSXNet on Dovenet. What's it to him for? I consider that gossip mongering.
I hope they ban you permanently for the way you treat people. You don't need to swear so you sound all so cool. I'm glad they bombed Hiroshima and Pearl Harbour. Taught you people a few lessons about life. How about when you people invaded China and murdered a lot of people? I know it's ancient history. So look at yourself in the mirror first before you look at others. You don't even know how much power I really have. I have connections to a lot of powerful people. So don't try to even mess with me.
Gamgee wrote to Nightfox <=-
Yep, he downvotes every single one of my messages. :-)
Does that go on our PERMANENT RECORDS?
... Would anybody want it?
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unlike you, i dont give a shit.
Neither do I.
This is over the top and unacceptable.
You don't come in here and spew that kind of hate speech, and get
away with it. And then you puff out your chest and THREATEN
people? If you're so tough, PM me and I'll give you my address so
you can come visit me.
I'll make a public request right here and now to have you banned
permanently from DoveNet. This crap has gone on long enough.
You will only get banned in the process. So it's your call.
Yep, he downvotes every single one of my messages. :-)
Does that go on our PERMANENT RECORDS?
Gamgee wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
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Re: Re: FSXNet
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Gamgee on Tue Oct 22 2019 06:17 am
Yep, he downvotes every single one of my messages. :-)
Does that go on our PERMANENT RECORDS?
Haha! OH NO!!!
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Oooh boy. Now the kid gloves are off.
Zoohouse wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I didn't know messages could be voted for... How does one go about
voting for messages?
On 10-21-19 13:40, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Never mentioned on the show, however in the spinoff Fear the Walking
Dead last seaosn they met a senior reactor operator that kept a plant running after the disaster, which resulted in a meltdown.
In real life, federal regulations lay down rules regarding when a plant should be shut down, and even though a plant generates power itself,
they rely on separate power source such as the grid and large backup generators to power the essential systems and controls that run the reactor. Once the external power grid went down, any remaining fuel should've been used to run the backup generators to properly shut the plant down. Pandemic and interruption of power due to disasters will always lean on the safety side.
Since I cannot find the up and downvote commands on my own board... +1
Since I cannot find the up and downvote commands on my own board... +1
hit the question mark when you are viewing a message you want to vote on... if you are using the default theme and have the new menus in place, the V key should be Vote...
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Oct 11 2019 08:45 pm
I do suggest that if you can, connect via IPv6, you should get a faster connection that way. :)
I haven't explored IPv6 much yet.. I probbaly should, as I know IPv4 is probably going to stop working at some point.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Nodoka Hanamura to The Millionaire on Mon Oct 21 2019 18:56:00
Oooh boy. Now the kid gloves are off.
Since I cannot find the up and downvote commands on my own board... +1
Zoohouse wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I didn't know messages could be voted for... How does one go about voting for messages?
V from the reading messages menu.
hit the question mark when you are viewing a message you want to vote on... if you are using the default theme and have the new menus in plac the V key should be Vote...
Yep. There have been questions sometimes that could have been easily answer just by reading the help screen or documentation, or perhaps just trying a command to see if it's supported (one might be able to guess that you could vote with the V key).
hit the question mark when you are viewing a message you want to
vote on... if you are using the default theme and have the new
menus in plac the V key should be Vote...
Yep. There have been questions sometimes that could have been easily
answer just by reading the help screen or documentation, or perhaps
just trying a command to see if it's supported (one might be able to
guess that you could vote with the V key).
is someone even writing the documentation on the new stuff now?
Since I cannot find the up and downvote commands on my own board... +1Just hit the V key man.
They also need a source of power for cooling water, which must keep circulat
after the reactor has been shutdown, because the residual heat from radioact decay of fission products is still sufficient to cause a meltdown.
... It's not a bagpipe, but don't stop playing.
On 10-23-19 16:01, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I thought flooding the reactor with boron was supposed to suppress the reaction. If a disaster looked like it would take a long time, they
could offload the fuel assemblies and store them in the spent fuel
pool.
On 10-23-19 13:26, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-
I haven't explored IPv6 much yet.. I probbaly should, as I know IPv4 is probably going to stop working at some point.
Maybe, possibly, but I predict that would be a long time from now. And most likely IPv4 for your local networks will continue to work forever,
if you want.
Since I cannot find the up and downvote commands on my own board... +1
i have it disabled somehow i think
Since I cannot find the up and downvote commands on my own board... +1
i have it disabled somehow i think
I actually do have it, I just had a corrupted copy of the msghelp.asc file.
Pulled a new copy and I see the command now. :)
i think i disabled the voting because i dont like it but i am able to vote in the msg reader.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Thu Oct 24 2019 06:59 pm
i think i disabled the voting because i dont like it but i am able to v in the msg reader.
I think there are options to enable/disable voting in each sub-board, but th option for voting might still be there in the reader. If the sub-board does allow voting, it will probably just tell you voting isn't allowed.
Even if you personally don't like voting, why disable it for everyone on you BBS? Some users on your BBS might want to be able to use the voting feature
I haven't explored IPv6 much yet.. I probbaly should, as I know
IPv4 is probably going to stop working at some point.
Maybe, possibly, but I predict that would be a long time from now.
And most likely IPv4 for your local networks will continue to work
forever, if you want.
I think IPv4 will kick on for a while, but I'm ready for whatever happens. Dual stack here. :)
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Vk3jed to Digital Man on Thu Oct 24 2019 07:54 pm
I haven't explored IPv6 much yet.. I probbaly should, as I know
IPv4 is probably going to stop working at some point.
Maybe, possibly, but I predict that would be a long time from now.
And most likely IPv4 for your local networks will continue to work
forever, if you want.
I think IPv4 will kick on for a while, but I'm ready for whatever hap Dual stack here. :)
I remember in school in the 60's they kept saying the USA would go metric still waiting for that to happen, so yes I agree ipv4 will be around for a time.
my isp has ipv4 and ipv6 i still only use ipv4.
On 10-24-19 23:17, Denn wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I remember in school in the 60's they kept saying the USA would go
metric 100% still waiting for that to happen, so yes I agree ipv4 will
be around for a long time.
my isp has ipv4 and ipv6 i still only use ipv4.
I remember in school in the 60's they kept saying the USA would go metric 100% still waiting for that to happen, so yes I agree ipv4 will be around
my isp has ipv4 and ipv6 i still only use ipv4.
Address. At this rate we'll rely on a single IP address serving an entire neighborhood and at point you'll need to host servers on IPv6 - which is a bitch and a half because the IP Addresses are as user-friendly as someone's granny trying to comprehend PASCAL. Or anyone trying to comprehend PASCAL,
IPV6 will redefine "screwed" for all of us.
Imagine when your refrigerator, AC outlets, Alexa and all of your PCs and phones have public IP addresses?
I don't know how long it'll be, honestly. We've already exhausted all available IPv4 Addresses - Hell, i'm thankful I still have my own IPv4
On 10-24-19 23:17, Denn wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I remember in school in the 60's they kept saying the USA would go metric 100% still waiting for that to happen, so yes I agree ipv4 will
Australia finished the conversion around 45 years ago. :)
in the usa we use both standard and metric measurements.
in the workplace i've used both. standard and metric both have their particular advantages.
i'm 42 and in school we were taught both, my son is 25 and he was taught both, and my ex's daughter is now 13 and she was taught both.
On 10-25-19 09:10, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nodoka Hanamura <=-
DNS can resolve IPV6 addresses the same way it resolved IPV4, so
there's no need to memorize IPV6 addresses. Or did I misunderstand?
Where have you used both in the workplace?
Where have you used both in the workplace?
when i was a young buck i worked at a place that made heart stents and abortion kits and cystoscope cameras.
and i've used both in machine shops, in quality assurance and in my current job.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Denn to Vk3jed on Thu Oct 24 2019 11:17 pm
I remember in school in the 60's they kept saying the USA would go metr 100% still waiting for that to happen, so yes I agree ipv4 will be arou
In the 80s, I remember seeing things fairly often to promote the metric syst
Nightfox
Australia finished the conversion around 45 years ago. :)
be around for a long time.
my isp has ipv4 and ipv6 i still only use ipv4.
If IPv6 is available, you may as well set it up. :)
I recall it bak in the 1970's. In school, we were all geared up, learning how to convert, then nothing happened.
Makes sense for medical stuff and machine shops. For medical stuff specifically, I think it's interesting that medications in the US are measur in milligrams (a metric unit).
On 10-25-19 15:53, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
in the usa we use both standard and metric measurements.
in the workplace i've used both. standard and metric both have their particular advantages.
i'm 42 and in school we were taught both, my son is 25 and he was
taught both, and my ex's daughter is now 13 and she was taught both.
On 10-25-19 22:52, Denn wrote to Vk3jed <=-
If IPv6 is available, you may as well set it up. :)
It's setup on my router but my game servers have to be ipv4.
On 10-26-19 13:46, MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-
for real small thing i prefer using thousandths of an inch to measure
to get things real accurate.
for real small thing i prefer using thousandths of an inch to measure to get things real accurate.
Metric is made for extremes.
If mm isn't fine enough, there's microns (um), nanometres, picometres, femtometres, attometres (we're already smaller than an atom here ;) ) and so on.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Nodoka Hanamura to The Millionaire on Mon Oct 21 2019 18:56:00
Oooh boy. Now the kid gloves are off.
Since I cannot find the up and downvote commands on my own board... +1
I recall it bak in the 1970's. In school, we were all geared up, learning how to convert, then nothing happened.
Today, only metric is taught, though some old units still creep into everyday conversation. One of the sports I'm involved in was mostly developed here in the mid-late 1800s, so many of those track markings are also in old imperial units, and the measurements come out to round numbers in the old system.
In some ways I think the US/imperial system is stupid. There are multiple names for the same measurement. 8 ounces is a cup; therefore, 16 ounces is cups, and is also a pound. 32 ounces is a quart, 2 pounds, or 4 cups. How many different ways do you want to refer to a measurement? :P
OK, so your PCs get a global IPv6 address? (usually starts with 2xxx)?
On 10-26-19 21:21, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
In some ways I think the US/imperial system is stupid. There are
multiple names for the same measurement. 8 ounces is a cup; therefore,
16 ounces is 2 cups, and is also a pound. 32 ounces is a quart, 2 pounds, or 4 cups. How many different ways do you want to refer to a measurement? :P
On 10-27-19 01:21, Denn wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Vk3jed to Denn on Sun Oct 27 2019 07:24 am
OK, so your PCs get a global IPv6 address? (usually starts with 2xxx)?
2601:680:xxxx:xxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx
I x'd out most numbers and letters but you can see the format.
In some ways I think the US/imperial system is stupid. There are
multiple names for the same measurement. 8 ounces is a cup;
therefore, 16 ounces is 2 cups, and is also a pound. [...]
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Moondog to Z on Sat Oct 26 2019 01:20 am
I recall it bak in the 1970's. In school, we were all geared up, learni how to convert, then nothing happened.
It looks like you replied to one of my messages, but your message was direct
Nightfox
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sun Oct 27 2019 07:23 am
Today, only metric is taught, though some old units still creep into everyday conversation. One of the sports I'm involved in was mostly developed here in the mid-late 1800s, so many of those track markings a also in old imperial units, and the measurements come out to round numb in the old system.
In some ways I think the US/imperial system is stupid. There are multiple n ou want to refer to a measurement? :P
Nightfox
On 10-27-19 12:17, Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
How is inches, feet, yards any different than names such as
millimeters, centimeters, decimeters, and meters? The metric names are
easier to calculate and convert, otherwise they can be considered
separate measurements used to define scale of an object.
In some ways I think the US/imperial system is stupid. There are
multiple names for the same measurement. 8 ounces is a cup;
therefore, 16 ounces is cups, and is also a pound. 32 ounces is a
quart, 2 pounds, or 4 cups. How many different ways do you want to
refer to a measurement? :P
you mean like millimeters, centimeters, and so forth?
how about liters, etc
Worse is there's several different versions of the same measurement. For example:
gallon - US or British?
mile - statute or nautical? (both in common use too in the same place) ounce - fluid, troy, avoidupois?
In some ways I think the US/imperial system is stupid. There are
multiple n ou want to refer to a measurement? :P
How is inches, feet, yards any different than names such as millimeters, centimeters, decimeters, and meters? The metric names are easier to calculate and convert, otherwise they can be considered separate measurements used to define scale of an object.
And those 4 metric measurements are actually different scaling factors of th same unit (metre) - see below.
you mean like millimeters, centimeters, and so forth?
how about liters, etc
Not sure what you mean.. Millimeters, centimeters, etc. are fractions of a meter. It's not like having whole different names for the same thing.
On 10-27-19 18:07, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
gallon - US or British?
mile - statute or nautical? (both in common use too in the same place) ounce - fluid, troy, avoidupois?
Yep. Though, some things specifically say nautical mile etc..
On 10-27-19 21:59, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Vk3jed to Moondog on Mon Oct 28 2019 11:07 am
And those 4 metric measurements are actually different scaling factors of th same unit (metre) - see below.
so it's all based on the same scale. is that really that advantageous over just something that is widely accepted? in the usa that's not the case. ---
That's a false argument. If we used it here, we'd still be on imperial measurements. The US is effectively out of step with almost every other country on the planet.
What is false is your assumption that we have one but not the other. because we use both units of measurement and teach both.
we just have a prefered unit. we arent behind; we are having our cake and eating it too.
to stop teaching one would be detrimental if we had to deal with an issue that would pop up in the workplace. we wouldnt be backwards compatible.
so i'm 42 years old and i was taught both units of measurement from the start.
I'm not sure where you went to school, but for me, the metric system wasn't really taught until science classes at least in high school, maybe college, where they talked about metric measuring units. In the 80s, I remember seei things outside of school about learning the metric system, but it wasn't rea taught in the schools.
On 10-28-19 16:00, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
What is false is your assumption that we have one but not the other. because we use both units of measurement and teach both.
we just have a prefered unit. we arent behind; we are having our cake
and eating it too.
to stop teaching one would be detrimental if we had to deal with an
issue that would pop up in the workplace. we wouldnt be backwards compatible.
so i'm 42 years old and i was taught both units of measurement from the start.
my drawings at work are normally in metric but some old ones are
standard. it's no big stretch for me to go back and forth between the
two.
On 10-28-19 15:02, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
I'm not sure where you went to school, but for me, the metric system wasn't really taught until science classes at least in high school,
maybe college, where they talked about metric measuring units. In the
On 10-28-19 16:00, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
What is false is your assumption that we have one but not the other. because we use both units of measurement and teach both.
Well, a lot of Americans seem to have no idea of metric, you're a refreshing exception to the ones I've known.
you had a crappy school system if this is true.
i'm pretty sure they started teaching the metric system in schools around the >end of the 70s.
On 10-29-19 22:23, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i still think that's a misconception. i have traveled all over the
country and people deal with metric unit of measurements all the time. mechanics for instance. or even people that have ever used a tool to tighten something.
i think we just have a vocal idiot minority.
it is supposed to be taught in schools since the mid to late 70s.
i'm positive they are teaching it now and they were teaching it when
my 25 yr old son was in school.
That's a false argument. If we used it here, we'd still be on imperial measurements. The US is effectively out of step with almost every other country on the planet.
Re: Re: FSXNet
By: Vk3jed to MRO on Tue Oct 29 2019 08:29 pm
On 10-28-19 16:00, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
What is false is your assumption that we have one but not the other. because we use both units of measurement and teach both.
Well, a lot of Americans seem to have no idea of metric, you're a refresh exception to the ones I've known.
i still think that's a misconception. i have traveled all over the country a people deal with metric unit of measurements all the time. mechanics for instance. or even people that have ever used a tool to tighten something.
i think we just have a vocal idiot minority.
it is supposed to be taught in schools since the mid to late 70s.
i'm positive they are teaching it now and they were teaching it when my 25 old son was in school.
Well, a lot of Americans seem to have no idea of metric, you're a
refreshing exception to the ones I've known.
i still think that's a misconception. i have traveled all over the country and people deal with metric unit of measurements all the time. mechanics for instance. or even people that have ever used a tool to tighten something.
you had a crappy school system if this is true.
i'm pretty sure they started teaching the metric system in schools around t >end of the 70s.
I did go to a mostly crappy school system, but even we learned enough about it to know that the units are such that they are divisible by 10 (i.e. 10 milimeters = 1 centimeter, etc.). Honestly, I learned to use metric mostly by using the "other side" of my ruler. I like metric when I need to
measure small things... other things are easier to measure/remember in inches/feet/yards.
Well, seems large segments of the community. A lot of US hams don't seem to understand metric - a notable exception is satellite operators, because metr
Well that I can't comment on, because I'm not familiar with the US education system.
On 10-30-19 10:41, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I visited the UK in 2013 and saw that they still used miles for
distance on their roads (at least, on their road signs). I imagined
they probably used kilometers for distance.. Later, I saw a photo
online of a UK car that had its speedometer & odometer in miles but
showed temperature in Celsius (rather than Fahreinheit, as is usually
used in the US). I asked about that, and it sounds like in the UK they use a mix of metric and Imperial, depending on context and situation.
It sounds like a bit of a mess.. But I suppose that's true in the US
too - Most people in the US seem to be used to US/imperial measurements like feet, inches, miles, yards, ounces, etc., but people in the US
know a bit about metric measurements as well, since there's
occasionally a need for metric tools when working on cars, etc..
On 10-30-19 17:00, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Well, seems large segments of the community. A lot of US hams don't seem to understand metric - a notable exception is satellite operators, because metr
ham radio operators are wierdos. sorry guys! you are.
Well that I can't comment on, because I'm not familiar with the US education system.
i'm gonna ask some of my friends in other parts of the country what
their experience is. i know overall it was pushed mid to late 70s in
On 10-30-19 10:47, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
I think it's still a subset of people in the US who deal with metric
units all the time - Mechanics, as you said, are one. Also,
scientists.
I don't know how long it'll be, honestly. We've already exhausted all available IPv4 Addresses - Hell, i'm thankful I still have my own IPv4 Address. At this rate we'll rely on a single IP address serving an entire neighborhood and at point you'll need to host servers on IPv6 - which is a bitch and a half because the IP Addresses are as user-friendly as someone's granny trying to comprehend PASCAL. Or anyone trying to comprehend PASCAL, for that matter.
Sysop: | echicken |
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Location: | Toronto, Ontario |
Users: | 2,224 |
Nodes: | 6 (0 / 6) |
Uptime: | 15:44:23 |
Calls: | 14,143 |
Files: | 295 |
Messages: | 551,317 |