• BBS doors for WWW, FTP, etc?

    From Divarin@VERT/MUTINY to All on Sat Apr 27 11:16:04 2019
    Hi all. I've been looking for a door program (or multiple door programs) to add to my syncronet BBS to allow WWW and FTP access to users. I've tried a few doors that are supposed to do this but since these doors were written during the DOS days they all need to load a fossil driver or want to access the modem to dialup, etc... So far I've only been able to find one internet related door that works running under XP and just accepts that the OS is handling the internet connection: An IRC client.
    I've also tried Lynx, even though it's not a door I thought I could maybe run it through doorway or something but encountered the same issue (plus it would permit local filesystem access).
    Anybody have any ideas?
    It seems kind of counter-intuitive to offer WWW and FTP access on a BBS in this day and age but the thought occured to me when I was working on my C64: With a wifi modem I can connect to BBSs but that's about it, trying to do web browsing or file downloads via FTP isn't an option. Even if there are some utilities around to permit me to do that I'd still like to be able to offer these services through my board.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Divarin on Mon Apr 29 16:41:00 2019
    On 04-27-19 07:16, Divarin wrote to All <=-

    It seems kind of counter-intuitive to offer WWW and FTP access on a BBS
    in this day and age but the thought occured to me when I was working on
    my C64: With a wifi modem I can connect to BBSs but that's about it, trying to do web browsing or file downloads via FTP isn't an option.
    Even if there are some utilities around to permit me to do that I'd
    still like to be able to offer these services through my board.

    Sounds like you need a Linux server to offer shell accounts instead of a BBS, then you could use telnet over the wifi modem to access the Linux host and access WWW/FTP, and then use sz to download any files to the C64 as needed. :) Wonder if it's possible to have a "private shell" in a chroot jail to run as a "door" on a Linux BBS, or some form of very restricted shell with access to only a single directory (different one per node) and access to ftp and lynx.


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  • From Divarin@VERT/MUTINY to Vk3jed on Thu May 2 09:42:27 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FTP, etc?
    By: Vk3jed to Divarin on Mon Apr 29 2019 12:41:00

    On 04-27-19 07:16, Divarin wrote to All <=-

    It seems kind of counter-intuitive to offer WWW and FTP access on a BBS in this day and age but the thought occured to me when I was working on my C64: With a wifi modem I can connect to BBSs but that's about it, trying to do web browsing or file downloads via FTP isn't an option. Even if there are some utilities around to permit me to do that I'd still like to be able to offer these services through my board.

    Sounds like you need a Linux server to offer shell accounts instead of a BBS then you could use telnet over the wifi modem to access the Linux host and access WWW/FTP, and then use sz to download any files to the C64 as needed. Wonder if it's possible to have a "private shell" in a chroot jail to run as "door" on a Linux BBS, or some form of very restricted shell with access to only a single directory (different one per node) and access to ftp and lynx.


    ... That's just common courtesy ..... an uncommon commodity

    Interesting idea I've been playing around with that. First I tried a free shell account from sdf.org, then I tried connecting to a laptop I have which runs linux. I can get it work over a pc using either syncterm or putty but as soon as I try either on the c64 it just says "CONNECT" followed by about 10 garbled characters. I suspect neither of these systems are willing to communicate at 2400 baud.
    I could maybe find a way to have the BBS do the telnet but that would mean any file transfers would go to the BBS and not the caller, or I can try to find a way to configure the telnetd on this laptop to accept 2400 baud connections (if, indeed, that is the issue).

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Divarin on Sat May 4 23:54:00 2019
    On 05-02-19 05:42, Divarin wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Interesting idea I've been playing around with that. First I tried a
    free shell account from sdf.org, then I tried connecting to a laptop I have which runs linux. I can get it work over a pc using either
    syncterm or putty but as soon as I try either on the c64 it just says "CONNECT" followed by about 10 garbled characters. I suspect neither of these systems are willing to communicate at 2400 baud.
    I could maybe find a way to have the BBS do the telnet but that would
    mean any file transfers would go to the BBS and not the caller, or I
    can try to find a way to configure the telnetd on this laptop to accept 2400 baud connections (if, indeed, that is the issue).

    How does the C64 connect? Are you using a telnet to serial adapter, or a real telnet client (hmm, can a C64 do IP?).

    "2400 baud" has no meaning on a telnet link.


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  • From Heliarc@VERT/HAVENS to divarin on Sat May 4 17:15:24 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FTP, etc?
    By: Vk3jed to Divarin on Sat May 04 2019 07:54 pm

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    On 05-02-19 05:42, Divarin wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Interesting idea I've been playing around with that. First I tried a
    says "CONNECT" followed by about 10 garbled characters. I suspect
    neither of these systems are willing to communicate at 2400 baud.
    How does the C64 connect? Are you using a telnet to serial adapter, or a real telnet client (hmm, can a C64 do IP?).

    "2400 baud" has no meaning on a telnet link.

    Someone is trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. ;-)

    Heliarc

    ... Don't jump on a man unless he's down.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Vk3jed on Sat May 4 19:29:00 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Vk3jed to Divarin on Sat May 04 2019 07:54 pm

    On 05-02-19 05:42, Divarin wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Interesting idea I've been playing around with that. First I tried a free shell account from sdf.org, then I tried connecting to a laptop I have which runs linux. I can get it work over a pc using either syncterm or putty but as soon as I try either on the c64 it just says "CONNECT" followed by about 10 garbled characters. I suspect neither of these systems are willing to communicate at 2400 baud.
    I could maybe find a way to have the BBS do the telnet but that would mean any file transfers would go to the BBS and not the caller, or I can try to find a way to configure the telnetd on this laptop to accept 2400 baud connections (if, indeed, that is the issue).

    How does the C64 connect? Are you using a telnet to serial adapter, or a re telnet client (hmm, can a C64 do IP?).

    "2400 baud" has no meaning on a telnet link.


    ... We have phasers; I vote we blast 'em!

    Must be an adapter of some sort. The C64 doesn't have enough memory for TCP/IP.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Moondog on Sun May 5 17:11:00 2019
    On 05-04-19 15:29, Moondog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    How does the C64 connect? Are you using a telnet to serial adapter, or a re telnet client (hmm, can a C64 do IP?).

    "2400 baud" has no meaning on a telnet link.


    ... We have phasers; I vote we blast 'em!

    Must be an adapter of some sort. The C64 doesn't have enough memory
    for TCP/IP.

    That's what I thought.


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  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to Vk3jed on Mon May 6 18:04:28 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Vk3jed to Moondog on Sun May 05 2019 13:11:00

    Must be an adapter of some sort. The C64 doesn't have enough memory
    for TCP/IP.
    That's what I thought.

    Why not? I'm using my C64 with Telnet... even has DNS support.

    https://github.com/cc65/ip65

    Ok, some solutions require a special nic but ok its an old system.

    I have this one:

    https://jammingsignal.com/commodore-wi-fi-modem/
    HAWKEYE

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  • From Hustler@VERT/HAVENS to Hawkeye on Mon May 6 17:02:43 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Hawkeye to Vk3jed on Mon May 06 2019 02:04 pm

    Why not? I'm using my C64 with Telnet... even has DNS support.

    https://github.com/cc65/ip65

    I have this one:

    https://jammingsignal.com/commodore-wi-fi-modem/

    Why?? Just to see if you can? I'd imagine anything would work if you spent enough money on it. No??

    Hustler

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  • From Divarin@VERT/MUTINY to Hawkeye on Mon May 6 23:18:41 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Hawkeye to Vk3jed on Mon May 06 2019 14:04:28

    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Vk3jed to Moondog on Sun May 05 2019 13:11:00

    Must be an adapter of some sort. The C64 doesn't have enough memory
    for TCP/IP.
    That's what I thought.

    Why not? I'm using my C64 with Telnet... even has DNS support.

    https://github.com/cc65/ip65

    Ok, some solutions require a special nic but ok its an old system.

    I have this one:

    https://jammingsignal.com/commodore-wi-fi-modem/
    HAWKEYE

    - MASH BBS - http://mash4077.ddns.net:4077 - The Netherlands -

    yeah I use a WiModem like this: https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModemOLED
    I can telnet into BBS's with it but when I try to telnet to a linux terminal it just gives me about 10 or so garbled characters then nothing.
    I've also tried this on an old dos PC using a wifi232. On there as well I can telnet into BBSs but when trying to telnet to a linux terminal, same issue.

    So what I was trying to do is to add telnet out capabilities to my BBS but so far none of the telnet doors I've tried seem to work.

    Being able to telnet directly to a unix shell (or linux, either one) would be nice too but I'd be happy with either solution.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Hawkeye on Mon May 6 23:43:00 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Hawkeye to Vk3jed on Mon May 06 2019 02:04 pm

    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Vk3jed to Moondog on Sun May 05 2019 13:11:00

    Must be an adapter of some sort. The C64 doesn't have enough memory
    for TCP/IP.
    That's what I thought.

    Why not? I'm using my C64 with Telnet... even has DNS support.

    https://github.com/cc65/ip65

    Ok, some solutions require a special nic but ok its an old system.

    I have this one:

    https://jammingsignal.com/commodore-wi-fi-modem/
    HAWKEYE

    - MASH BBS - http://mash4077.ddns.net:4077 - The Netherlands -


    Is it safe to assume the nic itself has memory or processing ability to
    handle the network stack?

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  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to Hustler on Tue May 7 02:48:27 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Hustler to Hawkeye on Mon May 06 2019 13:02:43

    Why?? Just to see if you can? I'd imagine anything would work if you spent enough money on it. No??

    I have a retro collection and I like to see old machines using modern systems. I'm an infrastructure consultant. I like to play with old hardware to see it working. Indeed there is a big factor : Because it can... LOL...

    This is also the reason I started the BBS again. To be able to check my own terminals on different machines, checking logfiles.

    The last product I bought is the cassopei v2.0 for 8 bit commodore computers which is working via the datasette port and giving C64 WiFi and a telnet program. Supporting these projects. I love it. I met the developer during a retro meeting.
    HAWKEYE

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Hawkeye on Wed May 8 01:30:00 2019
    On 05-06-19 14:04, Hawkeye wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Must be an adapter of some sort. The C64 doesn't have enough memory
    for TCP/IP.
    That's what I thought.

    Why not? I'm using my C64 with Telnet... even has DNS support.

    https://github.com/cc65/ip65

    Cool, interesting.


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  • From Hustler@VERT/HAVENS to Hawkeye on Tue May 7 14:07:33 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Hawkeye to Hustler on Mon May 06 2019 10:48 pm

    Why?? Just to see if you can? I'd imagine anything would work if you
    spent enough money on it. No??

    I have a retro collection and I like to see old machines using modern systems. I'm an infrastructure consultant. I like to play with old hardware to see it working. Indeed there is a big factor : Because it can... LOL...
    The last product I bought is the cassopei v2.0 for 8 bit commodore computers which is working via the datasette port and giving C64 WiFi and a telnet program. Supporting these projects. I love it. I met the

    I ran a few C64 boards back in the Day. I started with Cnet but quickly went to Image. I'm pretty sure the highest baud rate you can get is 2400. After that it "blows up". I don't think I could go back to those slow scrolling terminals. How does the C64 with wifi handle ansi logon screens? Do you have a BBS up with the C64?

    Hustler

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Hustler on Tue May 7 13:18:00 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Hustler to Hawkeye on Mon May 06 2019 01:02 pm

    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Hawkeye to Vk3jed on Mon May 06 2019 02:04 pm

    Why not? I'm using my C64 with Telnet... even has DNS support.

    https://github.com/cc65/ip65

    I have this one:

    https://jammingsignal.com/commodore-wi-fi-modem/

    Why?? Just to see if you can? I'd imagine anything would work if you sp enough money on it. No??

    Hustler


    Just because one can sounds good to me. I'm kind of fascinated about the resourcefulness of the folks who still push the limits of what can be done
    with older hardware. I also enjoy the irony of retro pc's with peripherals that are several times more powerful or faster than the host hardware.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Tue May 7 21:05:51 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Moondog to Hustler on Tue May 07 2019 09:18 am

    Just because one can sounds good to me. I'm kind of fascinated about the resourcefulness of the folks who still push the limits of what can be done with older hardware. I also enjoy the irony of retro pc's with peripherals that are several times more powerful or faster than the host hardware.

    I feel the same way. I also think it would be cool to see a real land line connected to a modern telnet BBS (with Synchronet etc.) and have an older computer dial into it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to Divarin on Wed May 8 17:17:40 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Divarin to Hawkeye on Mon May 06 2019 19:18:41

    https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModemOLED
    I can telnet into BBS's with it but when I try to telnet to a linux terminal it just gives me about 10 or so garbled characters then nothing. I've also tried this on an old dos PC using a wifi232. On there as well I

    Maybe play with the BAUD settings. Its stable here but I wish I had the BBS detecting the 40 columns, which it doesnt. Maybe I dont have the menu files or so?
    HAWKEYE

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  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to Moondog on Wed May 8 17:20:03 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Moondog to Hawkeye on Mon May 06 2019 19:43:00

    Is it safe to assume the nic itself has memory or processing ability to handle the network stack?

    Contiki provides multitasking and supports networking with a built-in Internet Protocol suite (TCP/IP stack), yet needs only about 10 KByte of RAM and 30 KByte ROM. A full system, including a graphical user interface, needs about 30 KBytes of RAM.

    Wired networking is fully supported in Contiki via RR-Net, TFE, and ETH64.

    So short answer.. nope.. only takes 10 KB :)
    HAWKEYE

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  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to Hustler on Wed May 8 17:22:34 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Hustler to Hawkeye on Tue May 07 2019 10:07:33

    scrolling terminals. How does the C64 with wifi handle ansi logon screens? Do you have a BBS up with the C64?

    Slow indeed, 2400 is stable. I'm using it only as client. I want to have SBBS 3.17 working with 40 columns in the near future. I think I miss menu files after I saw the youtube video of SBBS. Have to check/fix this.
    HAWKEYE

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  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to Moondog on Wed May 8 17:30:58 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Moondog to Hustler on Tue May 07 2019 09:18:00

    Just because one can sounds good to me. I'm kind of fascinated about the resourcefulness of the folks who still push the limits of what can be done with older hardware. I also enjoy the irony of retro pc's with peripherals that are several times more powerful or faster than the host hardware.

    Yeah, thats what I like. TCPIP on the 64 is around 10 KB... lol... On Linux based systems if I remember correctly it's minimum 16 KB.... interesting numbers with all those GBs nowadays. Be aware... its the tcpip stack no fancy stuff.

    For eg on a classic Amiga with normal memory you are not able to use modern SSL, simply not enough CPU and memory available to process it. With accelators and/or new hardware you can.
    HAWKEYE

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  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to Nightfox on Wed May 8 17:33:08 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue May 07 2019 17:05:51

    I feel the same way. I also think it would be cool to see a real land line connected to a modern telnet BBS (with Synchronet etc.) and have an older computer dial into it.

    Problem is.. there are no landlines here anymore. All PSTN are gone. Even ISDN is gone. Lot of old style solutions like security systems using PSTN lines are now dependent of DSL which is not that secure and stable.
    HAWKEYE

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  • From Clover@VERT/MUTINY to Nightfox on Wed May 8 12:46:30 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Tue May 07 2019 17:05:51

    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Moondog to Hustler on Tue May 07 2019 09:18 am

    Just because one can sounds good to me. I'm kind of fascinated about the resourcefulness of the folks who still push the limits of what can be done with older hardware. I also enjoy the irony of retro pc's with peripherals that are several times more powerful or faster than the host hardware.

    I feel the same way. I also think it would be cool to see a real land line connected to a modern telnet BBS (with Synchronet etc.) and have an older computer dial into it.

    Nightfox

    When I pulled my c64 down from the attic I hooked up the 1200 baud modem and connected to Cottonwood BBS which still hosts dialup as well as telnet. Worked fine, even over voip (a higher baud rate might have caused issues I dont' know) but now I use a wifi adapter to telnet into boards
    I also tried telnetting into a unix shell and like the OP it worked fine over a PC but using the c64 I got a few garbled characters and then nothing. It would be awesome if we can figure out why that doesn't work because unix shells provide some nice functionality that you don't get from a bbs like web browsing, wget, ftp, etc.
    Of course if he could find a telnet door that would let BBS callers telnet out that would work as well.
    I've done a little searching and found a few but they all seem to depend on a packet driver so it's assuming you have a modem in your system.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Hawkeye on Wed May 8 15:33:25 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Hawkeye to Divarin on Wed May 08 2019 01:17 pm

    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Divarin to Hawkeye on Mon May 06 2019 19:18:41

    https://www.cbmstuff.com/proddetail.php?prod=WiModemOLED
    I can telnet into BBS's with it but when I try to telnet to a linux terminal it just gives me about 10 or so garbled characters then nothin I've also tried this on an old dos PC using a wifi232. On there as well

    Maybe play with the BAUD settings. Its stable here but I wish I had the BBS detecting the 40 columns, which it doesnt. Maybe I dont have the menu files so?

    A Synchronet BBS? It requires a connection to a configured Pet40Port (default: 64) to know that the caller is using 40 column terminal.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Hawkeye on Wed May 8 15:34:33 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Hawkeye to Hustler on Wed May 08 2019 01:22 pm

    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Hustler to Hawkeye on Tue May 07 2019 10:07:33

    scrolling terminals. How does the C64 with wifi handle ansi logon screens? Do you have a BBS up with the C64?

    Slow indeed, 2400 is stable. I'm using it only as client. I want to have SBBS 3.17 working with 40 columns in the near future. I think I miss menu files after I saw the youtube video of SBBS. Have to check/fix this.

    Look for text/menu/*.40col.*

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #14:
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Clover on Wed May 8 16:22:44 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Clover to Nightfox on Wed May 08 2019 08:46 am

    When I pulled my c64 down from the attic I hooked up the 1200 baud modem and connected to Cottonwood BBS which still hosts dialup as well as telnet. Worked fine, even over voip (a higher baud rate might have caused issues I dont' know) but now I use a wifi adapter to telnet into boards

    It seems weird that there isn't good enough land line service anymore for things like higher baud rate modems..

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Wed May 8 23:48:00 2019
    I feel the same way. I also think it would be cool to see a real land line connected to a modern telnet BBS (with Synchronet etc.) and have an older computer dial into it.

    I still have a landline connected to a modem, although it rings up my GT
    Power board rather than this one. People do use it to test their old, sometimes non-PC equipment.

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Clover on Thu May 9 14:05:06 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Clover to Nightfox on Wed May 08 2019 08:46:30

    Of course if he could find a telnet door that would let
    BBS callers telnet out that would work as well.

    is there something wrong with this capability that sbbs already offers? i'm pretty sure that telgate.js still exists and one can
    easily use it like setting up an external door game...

    *telgate some.telnet.bbs

    i'm not sure, without some further digging, how to specify a non-standard port but basic outbound telnet should still be available
    from a sbbs system if the operator has set it up... ISTR that there was a default xtrn menu with a list of bbses from the
    sbbslist... that menu used telgate.js and there was also something, maybe a slightly modified copy of telgate.js, used to access
    weather underground's telnet weather service...


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  • From Ed Vance@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Hawkeye on Thu May 9 14:35:00 2019
    05-08-19 13:22 Hawkeye wrote to Hustler about Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    Howdy! Hawkeye,

    @VIA: VERT/MASHBBS
    @MSGID: <5CD2BBFA.6204.dove-general@mash4077.ddns.net>
    @REPLY: <5CD19125.1017.dove-general@havens.synchronetbbs.org>
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Hustler to Hawkeye on Tue May 07 2019 10:07:33

    scrolling terminals. How does the C64 with wifi handle ansi logon screens? Do you have a BBS up with the C64?

    Slow indeed, 2400 is stable. I'm using it only as client. I want to
    have SBBS 3.17 working with 40 columns in the near future. I think I
    miss menu files after I saw the youtube video of SBBS. Have to
    check/fix this. HAWKEYE

    I never could get a 2400 Connect on a C=64, 1200 was the best I could get,
    but that was 4 Times better than what I was getting when I used the VIC300 Modem.

    I used a Omnitronix RS-232 Interface with a
    Packard Bell PB2400 and (later) a US Robotics Sportster VI Modem
    but always got a 1200 Connect no matter what Program I used to call the BBS.

    The last Terminal PRG I was using on the C=64 was Bob's Term Pro.
    I liked that PRG but I still never got a 2400 Connect with the USR Modem.

    When I first logged on a BBS the first time I would choose the 80 Column Setting instead of asking for 40 Columns.

    I chose to do that because if I wanted to Print Out a Message the
    C=1526 Printer I had could print the whole line on 8.5 by 11 paper instead
    of Me having to flip the paper over to use the other half of the page.

    The 80 Column selection looked OK to Me on the TV Sets Screen even though
    the C=64 was displaying it 40 Columns.

    And Then I had a 486 Built...

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From Ed Vance@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Nightfox on Thu May 9 15:30:00 2019
    05-08-19 12:22 Nightfox wrote to Clover about Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    Howdy! Nightfox,

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    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Clover to Nightfox on Wed May 08 2019 08:46 am

    When I pulled my c64 down from the attic I hooked up the 1200 baud modem and connected to Cottonwood BBS which still hosts dialup as well as telnet. Worked fine, even over voip (a higher baud rate might have caused issues I dont' know) but now I use a wifi adapter to telnet into boards

    It seems weird that there isn't good enough land line service anymore
    for things like higher baud rate modems..

    In my area AT&T has been advertising Fiber Internet.

    I have a Landline Telephone and DSL Service.

    I like knowing if the A.C. Power fails here I can call the Electric Company
    to report the loss of power. Because there is power coming From the Telephone Company central office batteries To My house to operate the phone here.

    In AT&T's Advertisement for Fiber the fine print says the customer would
    need Backup Power (a UPS ?) to use the Fiber Modem during a Power Outage.

    I like the 2 wire connection so plan to keep DSL here.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From Va7aqd@VERT/VA7AQDS to Rampage on Thu May 9 18:17:43 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Rampage to Clover on Thu May 09 2019 10:05 am

    is there something wrong with this capability that sbbs already offers? i'm pretty sure that telgate.js still exists and one can
    easily use it like setting up an external door game...

    *telgate some.telnet.bbs

    I think sometimes it can take awhile to get familiar with all the functionality that's bundled in with Synchro - I know I'm doing
    lots of wiki reading and whatnot to figure out the pieces that I feel I need to - and there's still gaps where one has to go back
    to the old docs and hope like hell, etc. There's a lot of flipping around to do, but, considering how much is in the package,
    there's an awful lot of good documentation and people around here are pretty great helping out, providing clarification, etc.

    Fortunately telgate appears to be well documented and specifying a port is as simple as putting it on the end of the host, ie,
    some.supersystem.com:12345

    I am just regurgitating what I found at http://wiki.synchro.net/module:telgate

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  • From Divarin@VERT/MUTINY to Rampage on Thu May 9 19:34:35 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Rampage to Clover on Thu May 09 2019 10:05:06

    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Clover to Nightfox on Wed May 08 2019 08:46:30

    Of course if he could find a telnet door that would let
    BBS callers telnet out that would work as well.

    is there something wrong with this capability that sbbs already offers? i'm easily use it like setting up an external door game...

    *telgate some.telnet.bbs

    i'm not sure, without some further digging, how to specify a non-standard po from a sbbs system if the operator has set it up... ISTR that there was a de sbbslist... that menu used telgate.js and there was also something, maybe a weather underground's telnet weather service...


    )\/(ark

    Hmm actually I didn't know about that. it's not listed under services but now that I know about it I'll look into it, thanks :)

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  • From Divarin@VERT/MUTINY to Rampage on Thu May 9 19:51:47 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Divarin to Rampage on Thu May 09 2019 15:34:35

    Hmm actually I didn't know about that. it's not listed under services but no that I know about it I'll look into it, thanks :)
    Well so much for that. using telnet I was able to successfully direct to another BBS (battlestar) but when I put in sdf.org it would just sit there. eventually the error message "TELGATE ERROR 38" showed up on the synchronet log .
    I also tried putting in the lan IP address of my personal linux laptop, confirmed I could telnet into it directly, and then tried having telgate connect to that, same result.
    I was starting to think maybe there's something weird about the box running the BBS that makes it not want to telnet into linux/unix systems but if I go to a command prompt and just run "telnet" it works fine.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Va7aqd on Thu May 9 20:53:33 2019
    Re: Re: BBS doors for WWW, FT
    By: Va7aqd to Rampage on Thu May 09 2019 02:17 pm

    I think sometimes it can take awhile to get familiar with all the functionality that's bundled in with Synchro - I know I'm doing lots of wiki reading and whatnot to figure out the pieces that I feel I need to - and there's still gaps where one has to go back to the old docs and hope

    Yep. For developing mods, specifically, I don't think all the loadable libraries are documented, and at times I've realized there was a JS library I didn't know about that I could have used in some of my mods. Sometimes it can help to watch the Synchronet Development sub-board for things that change and new things added, but there have been times when I've missed some of the posts there.

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Hawkeye on Fri May 10 21:34:00 2019
    On 05-08-19 13:33, Hawkeye wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Problem is.. there are no landlines here anymore. All PSTN are gone.
    Even ISDN is gone. Lot of old style solutions like security systems
    using PSTN lines are now dependent of DSL which is not that secure and stable. HAWKEYE

    Same here, no more landlines, all telephony is VoIP. Only way to bypass the Internet is using ham radio and other wireless network options.


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