• Re: Proposal to Keep WinXP Support "Alive"

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    Message-ID: <669769ce-c1a1-4f17-90f0-68768fc8dab6@f4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Proposal to Keep WinXP Support "Alive"
    From: Greegor <greegor47@gmail.com>
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    Microsoft's big opportunities to sell new versions of
    Windows used to accompany hardware 6x faster
    than the previous hardware.

    This entails huge costs, much greater than the
    mere cost of computers and Windows.

    Adapting or replacing old, expensive or proprietary
    software is a huge expense, as is any retraining
    caused by such changes.

    But these huge expenses were seen as
    worthwhile because of the 6x speed increase.
    Those days are over.

    The applications that pay the bills for large
    corporate users are things like order entry,
    order recall, inventory, database, telephone
    services scripts (Oracle) and word processing.

    One outfit has about 150 computer workstations
    in one room alone, plus about 30 more among
    offices and operation center. But they have
    about 25 such locations. Upgrading from XP
    would offer them no advantage whatsoever.

    Even though an operating system is crucial
    for a computer, it is nonetheless a minor fraction
    of the overall cost. If Microsoft is going to force
    that MASS of old computers to be replaced with
    no real advantage and for no real reason aside
    from the marketing needs of Microsoft, it becomes
    a bit like the tail wagging the dog.

    What does Microsoft get per new OEM computer
    with Win8? Maybe $30? Yet they expect to
    force old systems to be scrapped and new computers
    which provide no actual advantage to be purchased
    at about $700 per system?? Just to fulfill Microsoft's
    MARKETING NEEDS??

    To force corporate customer service centers to
    landfill/scrap all of those WinXP-Pro computers
    by cutting off revised SECURITY UPDATES
    is blatantly a MARKETING PLOY by Microsoft.

    And not a very nice one.

    Cutesy tiles instead of icons? Big deal.

    How about that Android, eh?
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    From: Greegor <greegor47@gmail.com>
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    On Dec 17, 7:11áam, knuttle <keith_nut...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    I don't have Windows 8, but I am in a situation
    where my computers are getting old and may
    need to be replaced. < snip!>

    How old?
    Are you under pressure to get faster processors?
    What type of processors do you have now?
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  • From Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.co@1:124/5013 to All on Fri Feb 1 00:14:19 2019
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    From: Zaphod Beeblebrox <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.windows-xp,alt.os.windows-xp,microsoft.public.windowsxp.setup_deployment,mi crosoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Subject: Re: Proposal to Keep WinXP Support "Alive"
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    On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:08:12 -0500, "knuttle"
    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote in article <kav9ku$5lh$1@dont-
    email.me>...

    On 12/20/2012 9:34 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
    On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:48:10 -0500, "knuttle"
    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote in article <kav4ur$7e8$1@dont- email.me>...

    <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote:
    You do *not* have to use the Modern/Metro interface, and if you
    don't, it's hardly distinguishable from Windows 7,


    Would you tell us how to lock it so it defaults to the Desktop mode not
    the "Modern/Metro interface"

    Or are we going to be stuck with starting in "Modern/Metro interface",
    like we are stuck with collapsing menus from earlier Windows versions

    Closest you can come is to start in TIFKAM (The Interface Formerly
    Known As Metro) and have it switch to the desktop shortly after (just a
    few seconds, depending on your system speed) and provide a start menu
    by using a start menu replacement utility like Start8, Classic Shell,
    etc.

    I very rarely use the start menu as such. I have moved all of the icons
    from the desktop and have my photographs as wall paper.

    I have all of my active programs in the Quick launch toolbar, and other programs are located in folders that are in the Quick launch toolbar.

    The only time I go to the start menu is to shut down the computer.

    I suspect that even if I have to go through the weird interface the
    quick launch toolbar is history and there will be no way to clear the
    desk top for your own photos.


    The desktop still exists, so you can change the wallpaper to your
    photos (and even have them rotate automatically on a schedule). Also,
    you can pin any program you want to the taskbar, which should be
    similar enough to the Quick Launch toolbar to suit your needs. Start8
    or Classic Shell are probably still the easiest way to make Windows 8
    drop to the desktop automatically even if you don't want or need the
    start menu replacement they provide.

    --
    Zaphod

    "Yeah. Listen, I'm Zaphod Beeblebrox, my father was Zaphod Beeblebrox
    the Second, my grandfather Zaphod Beeblebrox the Third..."

    "What?"

    "There was an accident with a contraceptive and a time machine. Now concentrate!"
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    How much does a multi touch screen for a desktop system cost?

    If I'm going to buy W8 to run on one of my machines,
    will any of the free third party DVD players run
    on the basic version of W8?

    What's added to the "Professional" version of W8?

    Is there an Ultimate version of W8?

    Is that compatability stuff to run old software
    built into all versions of W8, or only certain versions?

    I can't even buy a "clean boot" RETAIL version of W8
    where the license is transferrable?

    Microsoft actually has service centers where for $99
    they will remove crapware and make you
    a clean boot of W8?

    When does Microsoft plan to pull the plug
    on W7 and stop the SECURITY UPDATES
    just to force those users to buy Windows 9?

    Has it occurred to anybody that this model
    where each Microsoft OS has really bad
    SECURITY FLAWS actually benefits Microsoft?

    What would happen to user DEPENDENCY
    on Microsoft if they made a version of Windows
    WITHOUT huge security flaws, without the
    need for 200+ SECURITY UPDATES?

    Aren't we all just like JUNKIES hooked and
    dependent on Microsoft for SECURITY UPDATES?
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    On Dec 30 2012, 8:51áam, Evgenii Sputnik <elsputni...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    Le 18/12/2012 21:05, Greegor a Θcrit :

    Windows 8 can't even play a DVD unless you buy
    a more expensive Media Center edition?? á WTF?

    Try VLC Media Player. It's free and GPL.

    I've been using it for years and like it very much.

    It's not crippled by something left out of W8?
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