• Voting

    From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Paul Hayton on Tue Mar 5 00:26:43 2019
    Hi! Paul,

    On 04 Mar 19 03:15, Andrew Leary wrote to you:

    Region 57 votes:

    This did not arrive here until 01:09 EST (06:09 UTC) on March 4th,
    over 10 hours after the closing of the polls. NAK.

    You have my sympathy & support in this. However, this is his sandpit & he makes the rules.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Paul Quinn on Mon Mar 4 11:20:04 2019
    Paul Quinn wrote to Paul Hayton:

    This did not arrive here until 01:09 EST (06:09 UTC) on March 4th, over 10 hours after the closing of the polls. NAK.

    You have my sympathy & support in this. However, this is his sandpit & he

    makes the rules.

    Paul's ballot not being counted made absolutely no difference in the outcome
    of the election. However, if an exception were made for him, it would have
    to be made for all.

    I sent netmail to every RC in FidoNet at the beginning of the voting period, with reminders to those who had not voted on 28 February and again
    yesterday. Echomail normally does not take too long to reach its
    destination, but a delay of a few hours is common.

    The FTSC will be looking at the election rules in the FTSC charter to streamline the process; if you have any input please post it here or netmail me.

    Regards,

    Andrew


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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Andrew Leary on Tue Mar 5 03:28:04 2019
    Hi! Andrew,

    On 04 Mar 19 06:20, you wrote to me:

    The FTSC will be looking at the election rules in the FTSC charter to streamline the process; if you have any input please post it here or netmail me.

    Some simple 'natural justice' may need to be considered in future. Nothing complicated.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Paul Quinn on Mon Mar 4 13:05:00 2019
    Paul Quinn wrote to Andrew Leary <=-

    The FTSC will be looking at the election rules in the FTSC charter to streamline the process; if you have any input please post it here or netmail me.

    Some simple 'natural justice' may need to be considered in
    future. Nothing complicated.

    What, specifically, did you find wrong with the process as carried
    out this time? Multiple notices were given out WEEKS in advance
    of the deadline. What else needed to be done?

    You don't think there needs to be a deadline for submission of
    votes? How else can an election be conducted?



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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384.125 to Dan Clough on Tue Mar 5 13:46:03 2019
    Hi! Dan,

    On 03/05/2019 12:05 AM, you wrote to me:

    You don't think there needs to be a deadline for submission of
    votes? How else can an election be conducted?

    Check the echo again. R57C's vote was sent at his post "3:770/100 a31c39a2 dated Sun, 3 Mar 2019 21:28:23 +1300" (unfortunately addressed to 'All'). I.e.
    in plenty of time to arrive before the deadline. It was ignored by the Election Coordinator.

    So, R57C corrected himself with the later post with the proper addressee which was deemed too late to be accepted. Where is the justice in that?

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Paul Quinn on Tue Mar 5 00:59:00 2019
    Paul Quinn wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Hi Paul,

    You don't think there needs to be a deadline for submission of
    votes? How else can an election be conducted?

    Check the echo again. R57C's vote was sent at his post
    "3:770/100 a31c39a2 dated Sun, 3 Mar 2019 21:28:23 +1300"
    (unfortunately addressed to 'All'). I.e. in plenty of time to
    arrive before the deadline. It was ignored by the Election
    Coordinator.

    Yes, OK, I see that now. The only response there is to that is
    that the vote was not cast properly (the addressing).

    So, R57C corrected himself with the later post with the proper
    addressee which was deemed too late to be accepted. Where is the
    justice in that?

    This "re-vote" was indeed (not "deemed") cast too late as per the
    published deadline. I agree that it's kind of a bad deal, but...

    The good news is that the vote in question would not have changed
    the outcome in any way.

    Thanks for pointing out that the original vote (although not
    meeting the requested criteria) was submitted on time. I had
    missed that, and apologize if I came across a little harshly.
    Didn't mean to do that, just didn't realize the full story here.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    Cheers!



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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Dan Clough on Tue Mar 5 17:28:05 2019
    Hi! Dan,

    On 04 Mar 19 19:59, you wrote to me:

    Didn't mean to do that, just didn't realize the full story here.

    No bark lost, mate. The sandpit remains...

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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