• install raspbian to same installation media?

    From fugee ohu@3:770/3 to All on Mon Apr 29 07:45:10 2019
    I extracted Noobs to a micro sd card put it in my pi zero and installed After, rebooting takes me back to the install screen

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  • From Tauno Voipio@3:770/3 to Chris Elvidge on Mon Apr 29 18:18:28 2019
    On 29.4.19 14:01, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 29/04/2019 11:45, fugee ohu wrote:
    I extracted Noobs to a micro sd card put it in my pi zero and
    installed After, rebooting takes me back to the install screen

    Save yourself some hassle if you just want Raspbian. Download it
    directly and install to SD card.


    The card may be foobar. Noobs tends to permanently write-protect
    the start-up partition.

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    -TV

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  • From Chris Elvidge@3:770/3 to fugee ohu on Mon Apr 29 16:01:36 2019
    On 29/04/2019 11:45, fugee ohu wrote:
    I extracted Noobs to a micro sd card put it in my pi zero and installed
    After, rebooting takes me back to the install screen

    Save yourself some hassle if you just want Raspbian. Download it
    directly and install to SD card.


    --

    Chris Elvidge, England

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Chris Elvidge on Mon Apr 29 21:02:26 2019
    On 29/04/2019 12:01, Chris Elvidge wrote:
    On 29/04/2019 11:45, fugee ohu wrote:
    I extracted Noobs to a micro sd card put it in my pi zero and
    installed After, rebooting takes me back to the install screen

    Save yourself some hassle if you just want Raspbian. Download it
    directly and install to SD card.


    +1


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  • From Tauno Voipio@3:770/3 to fugee ohu on Tue Apr 30 14:28:48 2019
    On 30.4.19 08:25, fugee ohu wrote:
    On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 6:45:11 AM UTC-4, fugee ohu wrote:
    I extracted Noobs to a micro sd card put it in my pi zero and installed After, rebooting takes me back to the install screen

    Tried Raspbian, kept getting the message unable to expand filesystem Tried
    burning my micro sd card with etcher Same thing


    Get a new card and copy Raspbian on it.

    Noobs may have write-protected the partition
    that needs to be changed.

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    -TV

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Tauno Voipio on Tue Apr 30 12:36:34 2019
    On 30/04/2019 08:28, Tauno Voipio wrote:
    On 30.4.19 08:25, fugee ohu wrote:
    On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 6:45:11 AM UTC-4, fugee ohu wrote:
    I extracted Noobs to a micro sd card put it in my pi zero and
    installed After, rebooting takes me back to the install screen

    Tried Raspbian, kept getting the message unable to expand filesystem
    Tried burning my micro sd card with etcher Same thing


    Get a new card and copy Raspbian on it.

    Noobs may have write-protected the partition
    that needs to be changed.

    dd ought to smack the partitions as well as te data.


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    the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

    - Bertrand Russell

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  • From fugee ohu@3:770/3 to fugee ohu on Tue Apr 30 02:25:41 2019
    On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 6:45:11 AM UTC-4, fugee ohu wrote:
    I extracted Noobs to a micro sd card put it in my pi zero and installed
    After, rebooting takes me back to the install screen

    Tried Raspbian, kept getting the message unable to expand filesystem Tried burning my micro sd card with etcher Same thing

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  • From Tauno Voipio@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Tue Apr 30 16:30:07 2019
    On 30.4.19 10:36, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 30/04/2019 08:28, Tauno Voipio wrote:
    On 30.4.19 08:25, fugee ohu wrote:
    On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 6:45:11 AM UTC-4, fugee ohu wrote:
    I extracted Noobs to a micro sd card put it in my pi zero and
    installed After, rebooting takes me back to the install screen

    Tried Raspbian, kept getting the message unable to expand filesystem
    Tried burning my micro sd card with etcher Same thing


    Get a new card and copy Raspbian on it.

    Noobs may have write-protected the partition
    that needs to be changed.

    dd ought to smack the partitions as well as te data.


    No.

    There is a bit in the SD card which can be turned on to
    write-protect an area, but it cannot ever be turned off.

    There are tools for handling the low-level properties on
    SD cards. I'm using SD Formatter on OS X.

    --

    -TV

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  • From fugee ohu@3:770/3 to Tauno Voipio on Tue Apr 30 14:08:33 2019
    On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 5:30:09 AM UTC-4, Tauno Voipio wrote:
    On 30.4.19 10:36, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 30/04/2019 08:28, Tauno Voipio wrote:
    On 30.4.19 08:25, fugee ohu wrote:
    On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 6:45:11 AM UTC-4, fugee ohu wrote:
    I extracted Noobs to a micro sd card put it in my pi zero and
    installed After, rebooting takes me back to the install screen

    Tried Raspbian, kept getting the message unable to expand filesystem
    Tried burning my micro sd card with etcher Same thing


    Get a new card and copy Raspbian on it.

    Noobs may have write-protected the partition
    that needs to be changed.

    dd ought to smack the partitions as well as te data.


    No.

    There is a bit in the SD card which can be turned on to
    write-protect an area, but it cannot ever be turned off.

    There are tools for handling the low-level properties on
    SD cards. I'm using SD Formatter on OS X.

    --

    -TV

    Should I be able to setup the sd card on linux? I've been using gparted on linux to setup the sd card

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  • From Rob Morley@3:770/3 to fugee ohu on Tue Apr 30 22:24:54 2019
    On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 10:08:33 -0700 (PDT)
    fugee ohu <fugee279@gmail.com> wrote:

    Should I be able to setup the sd card on linux? I've been using
    gparted on linux to setup the sd card

    No need - just unzip the file and dd the image onto the card, or use
    etcher which will unzip and write the image.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Tauno Voipio on Wed May 1 00:28:11 2019
    On 30/04/2019 10:30, Tauno Voipio wrote:
    On 30.4.19 10:36, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 30/04/2019 08:28, Tauno Voipio wrote:
    On 30.4.19 08:25, fugee ohu wrote:
    On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 6:45:11 AM UTC-4, fugee ohu wrote:
    I extracted Noobs to a micro sd card put it in my pi zero and
    installed After, rebooting takes me back to the install screen

    Tried Raspbian, kept getting the message unable to expand filesystem
    Tried burning my micro sd card with etcher Same thing


    Get a new card and copy Raspbian on it.

    Noobs may have write-protected the partition
    that needs to be changed.

    dd ought to smack the partitions as well as te data.


    No.

    There is a bit in the SD card which can be turned on to
    write-protect an area, but it cannot ever be turned off.

    No.



    There are tools for handling the low-level properties on
    SD cards. I'm using SD Formatter on OS X.

    It appears after a little research taht some SDC rcrds go readonly and
    need binning.

    It alos appears that this is the best chance to save them



    https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/how-to-remove-write-protection-in-my-micro-sd-card.655335/



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  • From druck@3:770/3 to The Natural Philosopher on Wed May 1 00:46:10 2019
    On 30/04/2019 20:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 30/04/2019 10:30, Tauno Voipio wrote:
    On 30.4.19 10:36, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 30/04/2019 08:28, Tauno Voipio wrote:
    There is a bit in the SD card which can be turned on to
    write-protect an area, but it cannot ever be turned off.

    Sorry, that's rubbish, there is no firmware on an SD card to do this.

    It appears after a little research taht some SDC rcrds go readonly and
    need binning.

    That is factually correct (unlike the spelling).

    It alos appears that this is the best chance to save them

    As you say, they need binning, don't try to save them.

    When they go read only, they are giving you a last chance to copy the
    data off before they stop working completely.

    From experience you might get away with making read it r/w again a
    couple of times, but it happen again much quicker, and soon the data
    will either be completely scrambled or not accessible at all.

    ---druck

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  • From Theo@3:770/3 to druck on Thu May 2 14:17:47 2019
    druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
    On 30/04/2019 20:28, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 30/04/2019 10:30, Tauno Voipio wrote:
    On 30.4.19 10:36, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 30/04/2019 08:28, Tauno Voipio wrote:
    There is a bit in the SD card which can be turned on to
    write-protect an area, but it cannot ever be turned off.

    Sorry, that's rubbish, there is no firmware on an SD card to do this.

    There is. Look up the 'permanent write protect' bit in CSD bit 13.

    SD cards are more than just dumb block devices, even if that's the way the
    vast majority of people use them. That's the raison d'etre of the 'Secure' part of 'Secure Digital'.

    It appears after a little research taht some SDC rcrds go readonly and
    need binning.

    That is factually correct (unlike the spelling).

    It alos appears that this is the best chance to save them

    As you say, they need binning, don't try to save them.

    If it's a high value card (say 512GB) it could be worth a try saving them - getting the data off then doing a complete format with the SD Association
    tool. But I wouldn't use it for anything critical after that point.

    If it's a small card I'd just buy a new one.

    If it's gone Permanent Write Protect then I don't think the formatter will help.

    Theo

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@3:770/3 to Theo on Thu May 2 14:26:56 2019
    On 02/05/2019 10:17, Theo wrote:
    If it's gone Permanent Write Protect then I don't think the formatter will help.

    As the research shows there is no such thing. Not as 'permanent'. Not by *intention*.



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    M. de Voltaire

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