However, in FTN networks with some non-synchronet boards, what we end
up with is sentences scrolling way past the 80 character mark
(particularly when things are being quoted).
I think it's unreasonable to expect all other BBS softwares to update themselves to behave like synchronet; I also think it'd be a
regression to force synchronet to adhere to 80 character width
limits.
Is there a world where scanners can detect the past-80-character mark
and just strip the extra text off the end to make things more
readable? Also, does this annoy anyone else? Any time I see oddly
formatted text in FTN messages, particularly when quoting is
involved, I always smugly pat myself on the back noticing it's a
synchronet board again.
I think Synchronet is unique insofar as how it deals with messages on FTN. I believe Synchronet was developed with the intention of making message traffic consumable in a web interface, which is slick. However, in FTN networks with some non-synchronet boards, what we end up with is sentences scrolling way past the 80 character mark (particularly when things are being quoted).
I think it's unreasonable to expect all other BBS softwares to update themselves to behave like synchronet; I also think it'd be a regression to force synchronet to adhere to 80 character width limits.
Is there a world where scanners can detect the past-80-character mark and just strip the extra text off the end to make things more readable? Also, does this annoy anyone else? Any time I see oddly formatted text in FTN messages, particularly when quoting is involved, I always smugly pat myself on the back noticing it's a synchronet board again.
Isn't that more or less the norm? The editor in BBBS writes
paragraphs as one long line and the reader will wrap the text
depending on the terminal width. That can be just about anything
these days.
Isn't that more or less the norm? The editor in BBBS writes
paragraphs as one long line and the reader will wrap the text
depending on the terminal width. That can be just about anything
these days.
That may be the case, but I suspect the mail tosser is formatting your message to 80 characters.
Isn't that more or less the norm? The editor in BBBS writes
paragraphs as one long line and the reader will wrap the text
depending on the terminal width. That can be just about anything
these days.
That may be the case, but I suspect the mail tosser is formatting yo message to 80 characters.
Yep, Mystic is reformatting incoming messages, addings CRs to word
wrap for an 80 column screen. Any messages going through mutil will
have those CRs added to them even though they didn't have them
originaly.
Are you sure it's mystic and not BBBS? If it's mystic adding CRs and word wrapping then I would have thought the messages from synchronet would be too..
Are you sure it's mystic and not BBBS? If it's mystic adding CRs and word wrapping then I would have thought the messages from synchronet would be too..
I just had a look at the PKT that BBBS sent to 4/100 for the last
message I posted and the PKT doesn't have any CRs until the end of
the paragraph so no word wrapping in the original. If your inbound
PKT had CRs then they were added
somewhere along the way.
I just had a look at the PKT that BBBS sent to 4/100 for the last
message I posted and the PKT doesn't have any CRs until the end of
the paragraph so no word wrapping in the original. If your inbound
PKT had CRs then they were added
somewhere along the way.
Ok. Yeah something is definitely happening along the way I can see this message looks more like the synchronet "wrapped" messages. Hmm,
frustrating.
Notice how this message has a carriage return after "added" and then a
space before "somewhere", that confuses my wrapping (I unwrap then rewrap quotes so they fit inside 80 chars with the quote arrows). As my logic is that a line shouldn't start with a space if it's been wrapped (only if it
was meant to be a new line).
Oh well. I suspect even if mystic was fixed to stop altering messages,
there would still be some that look odd. For example, quote lines. How do
you insert the A> if it's one long line of quote, do you have the quote
sign then a long line and let the reader format it with quote signs after wrapping?
Heh. I've said it many times before - I hate word wrapping lol it's too complicated :)
esc wrote to All <=-
I think Synchronet is unique insofar as how it deals with messages on
FTN. I believe Synchronet was developed with the intention of making message traffic consumable in a web interface, which is slick. However,
in FTN networks with some non-synchronet boards, what we end up with is sentences scrolling way past the 80 character mark (particularly when things are being quoted).
I just had a look at the PKT that BBBS sent to 4/100 for the last
message I posted and the PKT doesn't have any CRs until the end of the paragraph so no word wrapping in the original. If your inbound PKT had
CRs then they were added somewhere along the way.
Heh. I've said it many times before - I hate word wrapping lol it's too complicated :)
...when it's quoted by someone else? This all gets murky. Feels very under-standardized IMO.text that scrolls out to the end of the line
I also think there's a rabbit's hole one can go down with quotes of
quotes of quotes, like, how should a BBS software or mailer or reader understand something like 11> 22> 33> 44> text that scrolls out to the
end of the line ...when it's quoted by someone else? This all gets murky. Feels very under-standardized IMO.
I just noticed something interesting - Mystic seems like it does some sort of word wrapping. Your initial message's last line was simply " added somewhere along the way", which means that me quoting here actually caused Mystic to rewrite your message to conform to having the "Al> " prepend.
I also want to mention that " added" intentionally, in my case, has the space before it, which was definitely formatted wrong. There was no need for that. So there is an edge case in message displaying in Mystic where things end up a bit wonky, I suppose.
I think Synchronet is unique insofar as how it deals with messages on FTN. I believe Synchronet was developed with the intention of making message traffic consumable in a web interface, which is slick. However, in FTN networks with some non-synchronet boards, what we end up with is sentences scrolling way
past the 80 character mark (particularly when things are being quoted).
I think it's unreasonable to expect all other BBS softwares to update themselves to behave like synchronet; I also think it'd be a regression to force synchronet to adhere to 80 character width limits.
Is there a world where scanners can detect the past-80-character mark and just strip the extra text off the end to make things more readable? Also, does this annoy anyone else? Any time I see oddly formatted text in FTN messages, particularly when quoting is involved, I always smugly pat myself on the back noticing it's a synchronet board again.
I admit I'm slightly OCD ;)
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