• Apple class-action lawsui

    From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Nightfox on Wed Jun 12 18:45:00 2019
    Nightfox wrote to All <=-

    Not sure how I feel about this... In general, class action lawsuits
    pad the pockets of the lawyers and 'punish' the companies. You
    know what you're getting when you buy an iOS device. You don't
    want the 'walled garden,' buy something else! :-)

    To 'punish' Apple for their practices though... How is it a
    monopoly if you can go elsewhere for apps in general? No one
    is forcing you to buy an iOS device - there are other options
    for smart phones, so you have a choice. That's like suing
    Verizon for not allowing me borrow minutes or data from my
    friend who has extra on AT&T...




    I just found this today (I'd prefer a written article rather than a
    video, but that's beside the point) - Apparently, there's a
    class-action lawsuit against Apple going on now. They argue Apple has
    a monopoly on how iOS apps are sold -
    Their App Store is the only way to buy apps for iOS devices, and Apple charges
    developers a 30% cut on the profits, which contributes to driving app prices up. The video:
    https://youtu.be/90WBJTJz0P0

    Seems like this could be an interesting case. On most other computing platforms, people can buy software from anywhere they want, and
    developers can easily charge what they want. I know Apple likes to
    ensure a good experience by keeping their iOS devices inside a walled garden, but I also like to be able
    to do what I want with the things I purchase. I think it would be
    good to be able to get apps from other sources and have less
    restrictions on them.

    I am familiar with jailbreaking, and I'm aware that the jailbreaking process adds an additional source of apps. Apple's App Store is the
    only "official" source of apps for iOS though.

    Nightfox
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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Jimmy Anderson on Wed Jun 12 18:46:43 2019
    Re: Apple class-action lawsui
    By: Jimmy Anderson to Nightfox on Wed Jun 12 2019 02:45 pm

    Not sure how I feel about this... In general, class action lawsuits
    pad the pockets of the lawyers and 'punish' the companies. You
    know what you're getting when you buy an iOS device. You don't
    want the 'walled garden,' buy something else! :-)

    Not everyone might know what they're getting into.. Also, if you buy something similar, like an Android device, it seems to me the situation is similar - I think the only official way to get Android apps is through the Google Play store. You can install Android apps outside of their Google Play store, but I'm not sure if that's an "official" way to install Android apps. So, there isn't a lot of choice..

    To 'punish' Apple for their practices though... How is it a
    monopoly if you can go elsewhere for apps in general? No one
    is forcing you to buy an iOS device - there are other options
    for smart phones, so you have a choice. That's like suing
    Verizon for not allowing me borrow minutes or data from my
    friend who has extra on AT&T...

    At least for iOS devices though, you can't go elsewhere for apps.. I think that's what it's all about - If you own an iOS device, the Apple App Store is the only official way to install iOS apps. It's similar to how Mac OS X is officially only available for Macs.. Though it's possible to install it on a "hackintosh", that's not officially supported.. There hasn't been a monopoly lawsuit about that though. You can buy a computer elsewhere, it just won't be able to run Mac OS X.

    Nightfox
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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Nightfox on Thu Jun 13 05:01:00 2019
    Nightfox wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    To 'punish' Apple for their practices though... How is it a
    monopoly if you can go elsewhere for apps in general? No one
    is forcing you to buy an iOS device - there are other options
    for smart phones, so you have a choice. That's like suing
    Verizon for not allowing me borrow minutes or data from my
    friend who has extra on AT&T...

    At least for iOS devices though, you can't go elsewhere for apps.. I think that's what it's all about - If you own an iOS device, the Apple
    App Store is the only official way to install iOS apps. It's similar
    to how Mac OS X is officially only available for Macs.. Though it's possible to install it on a "hackintosh", that's not officially supported.. There hasn't been a monopoly lawsuit about that though.
    You can buy a computer elsewhere, it just won't be able to run Mac OS
    X.

    Yeah, I guess I just don't understand how that's a monopoly. :-)

    Guess we'll wait for the courts to decide, or Apple to pay a few
    pennies to the people and a whole lot MORE to the suits. :-)




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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Jimmy Anderson on Thu Jun 13 13:26:00 2019
    Re: Apple class-action lawsui
    By: Jimmy Anderson to Nightfox on Thu Jun 13 2019 01:01 am

    Yeah, I guess I just don't understand how that's a monopoly. :-)

    Guess we'll wait for the courts to decide, or Apple to pay a few
    pennies to the people and a whole lot MORE to the suits. :-)

    I've always thought that depending on how you look at it, you could argue that Apple has a monopoly on its own devices. Apple is the ONLY company that makes Macintosh computers and iOS devices. You can't (officially) install Mac OS X on computers other than Apple's Macs, and you can't (officially) install iOS on devices other than Apple's iPhones and iPads. Shouldn't there be more competition out there? :P And Apple allowed Mac clones to be made for a short time in the 90s but they stopped allowing that.. But I can see the other
    side too, there are other computers in the market, so they don't have a monopoly.

    Of course, I'm just being silly here... :)

    Nightfox
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