• New Zealand Shootings

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Sat Mar 16 01:35:47 2019
    Hey all.

    Big dramas here in my country today with 40 shot and killed. Something that
    has not happened on that scale for many many years. It occurred about 4 hours drive north of where I live and seemed to be terror related. Locally we're getting reports at least on of the shooters may have lived locally in my city and possibly even close by to where I live. No bout more will come out in the ensuing days. Suffice to say the country is in shock as events like this here are super super rare. We're all OK here in Dunedin but like the rest of the country reeling from an unreal shocking day. The sick guy that committed the atrocities live streamed it on Facebook and video content is circulating
    online here that parents are being warned to warn their kids from watching.
    How sad/bad is that, that it's come to this? My 18 year old has stumbled on
    it and saw it. he came over tonight for dinner to eat and unburden himself
    with the horror he innocently stumbled upon. I hope (again) he will be OK but feel good he's talking etc. to us about it. I have offered to cover any counseling help should he feel he wants to talk to someone else about it.

    We're rolling into our Saturday (tomorrow) so I hope the weekend is low key
    and we can all rest up from what has truly been a very surreal and sad day
    over here for our country.

    Best, Paul

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@21:1/158 to Avon on Fri Mar 15 13:04:31 2019
    Hi Paul,

    Big dramas here in my country today with 40 shot and killed. Something that has not happened on that scale for many many years. It occurred
    about 4 hours drive north of where I live and seemed to be terror
    related. Locally we're getting reports at least on of the shooters may

    Oh my gosh this is insane!! I'm so deeply saddened by this news, things like this happening around the world are becoming more frequent it seems. I hope that your son is ok, knowing he has the support of his family to help him
    after seeing the video footage... I can't believe it was even allowed to
    remain up as long as it was.

    I just read the news article on nytimes.com about it and apparently now 49 people confirmed dead. So sad.

    You all are in my thoughts and prayers in this horrific time. Life is so precious, how can people be so cold and sick?

    Rest easy y'all, and try and enjoy your weekend.

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Avon on Fri Mar 15 06:31:08 2019
    We're rolling into our Saturday (tomorrow) so I hope the weekend is low key and we can all rest up from what has truly been a very surreal and sad day over here for our country.

    I read about that on my break a little earlier tonight although there were not to many details at the time. It sounded like it could be a bad one and it has turned out to be so.

    I hope they catch the shooter or shooters and bring peace back to New Zealand.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Sat Mar 16 00:58:00 2019
    On 03-15-19 21:35, Avon wrote to All <=-

    Hey all.

    Big dramas here in my country today with 40 shot and killed. Something

    It's been all over the news here too. :(


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  • From James Digriz@21:4/128 to Avon on Fri Mar 15 10:52:18 2019
    Avon wrote to All:
    Hey all.

    Big dramas here in my country today with 40 shot and killed. Something
    that
    has not happened on that scale for many many years. It occurred about 4 hours
    drive north of where I live and seemed to be terror related. Locally we're getting reports at least on of the shooters may have lived locally in my city
    and possibly even close by to where I live. No bout more will come out in the
    ensuing days. Suffice to say the country is in shock as events like this here
    are super super rare. We're all OK here in Dunedin but like the rest of
    the
    country reeling from an unreal shocking day. The sick guy that committed the
    atrocities live streamed it on Facebook and video content is circulating online here that parents are being warned to warn their kids from
    watching.
    How sad/bad is that, that it's come to this? My 18 year old has stumbled
    on
    it and saw it. he came over tonight for dinner to eat and unburden himself with the horror he innocently stumbled upon. I hope (again) he will be OK but
    feel good he's talking etc. to us about it. I have offered to cover any counseling help should he feel he wants to talk to someone else about it.

    We're rolling into our Saturday (tomorrow) so I hope the weekend is low
    key
    and we can all rest up from what has truly been a very surreal and sad day over here for our country.

    Best, Paul

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    So sad. My deepest sympathies to the people of NZ. We have
    had so much of this crap here in the US. I don't know about
    anyone else, but to me it was always a consolation that
    there were still places where things like this didn't seem
    to happen. Now that bubble is burst.

    Out of respect, I'll leave aside any specualation as to how
    or why this event occured. I do hope you get a more accurate
    and thorough investigation and accounting than the smoke
    screens and obfuscation that has happened with similar
    events here.

    My religous friends say it's the devil at work. Hard to
    disagree.

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  • From Dmxrob@21:4/148 to Avon on Fri Mar 15 14:37:16 2019
    Re: New Zealand Shootings
    By: Avon to All on Fri Mar 15 2019 09:35 pm

    Big dramas here in my country today with 40 shot and killed. Something that has not happened on that scale for many many years. It occurred about 4

    Horrible and I feel so bad for you all over there. We here in the U.S. know this horror all too well. Our thoughts are with you during this tragedy.


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  • From Erazmus@21:1/133 to Avon on Fri Mar 15 14:44:39 2019
    On 15 Mar 2019, Avon said the following...

    Big dramas here in my country today with 40 shot and killed. Something

    Paul,

    Such an awful tragedy. I'm glad you and your immediates are okay. I saw the report of Dunedin and immediately thought of you.

    Best wishes.

    Ian

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  • From Black Panther@21:1/186 to Avon on Fri Mar 15 22:39:16 2019
    On 15 Mar 2019, Avon said the following...

    Big dramas here in my country today with 40 shot and killed. Something that has not happened on that scale for many many years. It occurred
    about 4 hours drive north of where I live and seemed to be terror
    related. Locally we're getting reports at least on of the shooters may

    Wow. I'm just trying to figure out where this world is heading...

    Thoughts heading your way, to you and everyone in New Zealand...


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Black Panther on Sat Mar 16 18:07:50 2019
    On 15 Mar 2019 at 06:39p, Black Panther pondered and said...

    Wow. I'm just trying to figure out where this world is heading...
    Thoughts heading your way, to you and everyone in New Zealand...

    Thanks good sir... yeah been a sad 24 hours and many in shock over here. Sun
    is shining and we're having a low key day at home.

    Best, Paul

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Sat Mar 16 22:53:00 2019
    On 03-16-19 14:07, Avon wrote to Black Panther <=-

    Thanks good sir... yeah been a sad 24 hours and many in shock over
    here. Sun is shining and we're having a low key day at home.

    A fair bit of shock here too. NZ are very much a part of the Down Under family. It all goes to show extremists come in all flavours, and those extreme ideologies need to be challenged, regardless of flavour.

    With protests a few years ago against the approval of a new mosque here a few years back, this is particularly unnerving. Fortunately in our case, the mosque was approved and the appeal against it was thrown out. Locally, the community rallied against the bigoted protesters and did its best to make our Muslim community feel comfortable.

    The mosque hasn't yet been completed. I haven't heard much, but it was known it would take a while to be started. Perhaps the Muslim community is still raising the funds. In any case, I hope to get an opportunity to tour the mosque when it's built. While I don't share their beliefs, everyone deserves an appropriate place to worship.


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  • From shinobi@21:1/153 to Al on Sat Mar 16 13:05:44 2019
    I hope they catch the shooter or shooters and bring peace back to New Zealand.

    This is terrifying. From what I know he recorded and streamed himself live on Facebook.

    Long live textual mode.

    Best regards

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to shinobi on Sat Mar 16 06:24:10 2019
    I hope they catch the shooter or shooters and bring peace back to New
    Zealand.

    This is terrifying. From what I know he recorded and streamed himself live on Facebook.

    Someone at work today told me that it was the facebook admins who directed the authorities to the attacker. I don't know if that's true but if so facebook did
    some good in this case.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@21:1/127 to Avon on Sat Mar 16 13:54:14 2019
    We're rolling into our Saturday (tomorrow) so I hope the weekend is low key and we can all rest up from what has truly been a very surreal and
    sad day over here for our country.

    I just wanted to offer my condolences for the lives lost and wanted to say
    Stay New Zealand Strong! I stand with you and your countrymen.

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  • From shinobi@21:1/153 to Al on Sat Mar 16 18:01:08 2019
    Someone at work today told me that it was the facebook admins who
    directed the authorities to the attacker. I don't know if that's true
    but if so facebook did some good in this case.

    Well... it could be. I would like to know what the impacts of this will be. Possibly some more AI improvements to determine this kinds of live streaming. Who knows. The Facebook is in my honest opinion out of control. Some would
    call is "The Biggest Experiment in history of Anarchy". Who knows. It's very easy to organize meetings trough the platform. In my country there are gangs organizing street wars through this platform.

    Best regards

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to James Digriz on Sun Mar 17 12:55:09 2019
    On 15 Mar 2019 at 06:52a, James Digriz pondered and said...

    So sad. My deepest sympathies to the people of NZ. We have

    Thanks James, appreciate your kind thoughts at this time. It has certainly
    been surreal here as of late. The gunman arrested by have even been living
    not to far from my home here in Dunedin. Our local neighborhood is also in shock. Police closed a street not far from here and evacuated some residents. The next morning a bomb squad team complete with robot moved in to make the suspects house safe so law enforcement could enter and search it. This all
    went down less than 3km from where I type this message to you now.

    Best, Paul

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Dmxrob on Sun Mar 17 12:56:52 2019
    On 15 Mar 2019 at 10:37a, Dmxrob pondered and said...

    Horrible and I feel so bad for you all over there. We here in the U.S. know this horror all too well. Our thoughts are with you during this tragedy.

    Thank you :) It means a lot to read these best wishes from around the globe. Thanks good sir :)

    Best, Paul

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Erazmus on Sun Mar 17 12:58:14 2019
    On 15 Mar 2019 at 10:44a, Erazmus pondered and said...

    Such an awful tragedy. I'm glad you and your immediates are okay. I saw the report of Dunedin and immediately thought of you.

    Hi Ian, yes thanks we're OK but the city is shaken as it looks like the original target may have been in my city but the guy opted to travel 4 hours north of us and inflict mayhem there instead. It looks like he did live quite locally nearby to us though. Freaky stuff.

    Best, Paul

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Sun Mar 17 13:03:20 2019
    On 16 Mar 2019 at 06:53p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

    A fair bit of shock here too. NZ are very much a part of the Down Under family. It all goes to show extremists come in all flavours, and those extreme ideologies need to be challenged, regardless of flavour.

    Yeah I can totally relate and agree with that. I don't harbour any anger or animosity towards folks in Australia. It really does not matter where a
    person is from they need to be judged by their actions and in this case we
    both agree those acts where abhorrent. Death on this scale at the hands of a man with a weapon is so totally rare here it has understandably shocked most
    to the core. If there is on positive it's the strong and united up-swell of love and caring from the local and national NZ communities loudly rejecting
    the violence and clearly stating this is not who/what New Zealand is about.

    Best, Paul

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Mar 17 13:06:29 2019
    On 16 Mar 2019 at 09:54a, Gregory Deyss pondered and said...

    I just wanted to offer my condolences for the lives lost and wanted to
    say Stay New Zealand Strong! I stand with you and your countrymen.

    Thanks Greg it means a lot to me to get this from you and I (and others I can let know) really appreciate the support and compassion being expressed
    globally towards New Zealanders at this time.

    Best, Paul

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to shinobi on Sat Mar 16 18:36:24 2019
    shinobi wrote to Al <=-

    Someone at work today told me that it was the facebook admins who
    directed the authorities to the attacker. I don't know if that's true
    but if so facebook did some good in this case.

    Well... it could be. I would like to know what the impacts of this will be. Possibly some more AI improvements to determine this kinds of live streaming.

    That would be a good thing, if it's not used for some contrary purpose as is their habbit.

    Who knows. The Facebook is in my honest opinion out of control. Some
    would call is "The Biggest Experiment in history of Anarchy". Who knows.

    The experimentation is a good thing. There are good sides to it.

    It's very easy to organize meetings trough the platform. In my country there are gangs organizing street wars through this platform.

    Another example of folks using a good thing for a bad purpose.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Sun Mar 17 15:30:00 2019
    On 03-17-19 09:03, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yeah I can totally relate and agree with that. I don't harbour any
    anger or animosity towards folks in Australia. It really does not
    matter where a person is from they need to be judged by their actions
    and in this case we both agree those acts where abhorrent. Death on
    this scale at the hands of a man with a weapon is so totally rare here
    it has understandably shocked most to the core. If there is on positive it's the strong and united up-swell of love and caring from the local
    and national NZ communities loudly rejecting the violence and clearly stating this is not who/what New Zealand is about.

    Agree totally. In a lot of ways, Australia and New Zealand are very similar, which is one reason we're always so close when the shit hits the fan. Such violence and death on that scale is rare here too. This dwarfs the 1996 Port Arthur massacre. I hope this tragedy can help people find our common humanity.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Sun Mar 17 16:13:00 2019
    On 03-17-19 08:58, Avon wrote to Erazmus <=-

    Hi Ian, yes thanks we're OK but the city is shaken as it looks like the original target may have been in my city but the guy opted to travel 4 hours north of us and inflict mayhem there instead. It looks like he
    did live quite locally nearby to us though. Freaky stuff.

    Bit scary, it could have all happened on your doorstep. So many aspects of Western society have a lot to answer for, not the least being our politicians who like to fan the flames of extremism through popilism. :/


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