• FTN Point in Mystic

    From shinobi@21:1/153 to All on Mon Mar 18 11:47:23 2019
    Hello All,

    I wonder. Is there any way to configure FTN Point in Mystic? Does it make sense? Or it's rather BINKP used to communicate between Nodes & HUBS and it's expected for Points to send mail via QWK?

    Thanks & best regards

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to shinobi on Mon Mar 18 04:15:00 2019
    I wonder. Is there any way to configure FTN Point in Mystic? Does it make sense? Or it's rather BINKP used to communicate between Nodes & HUBS and it's expected for Points to send mail via QWK?

    Points are an FTN thing. If you'd like to serve a point on your current setup just add an echomail node for them with an address like 21:1/153.1. You can use
    any point number you like.

    Points work the same way as any FTN node. They just have a .1 (or whatever the point number is) instead of .0.

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  • From deon@21:2/116.1 to shinobi on Mon Mar 18 11:42:21 2019
    On 18 Mar 2019, shinobi said the following...
    I wonder. Is there any way to configure FTN Point in Mystic? Does it make sense? Or it's rather BINKP used to communicate between Nodes & HUBS and it's expected for Points to send mail via QWK?

    You'll see that I'm using Mystic as a point - so yes in my situation it makes sense (to me :)

    I have all mail coming into MBSE at the moment, but I use Mystic to
    read/reply.

    I think "points" are an FTN thing (so BINKP), not a QWK thing...

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to shinobi on Tue Mar 19 01:14:00 2019
    On 03-18-19 07:47, shinobi wrote to All <=-

    Hello All,

    I wonder. Is there any way to configure FTN Point in Mystic? Does it
    make sense? Or it's rather BINKP used to communicate between Nodes &
    HUBS and it's expected for Points to send mail via QWK?

    Setting up a point is the same as setting up a BBS, except that a point address is used for your address. Points are simply an extension of the FTN addressing scheme.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to deon on Tue Mar 19 01:15:00 2019
    On 03-18-19 07:42, deon wrote to shinobi <=-

    I think "points" are an FTN thing (so BINKP), not a QWK thing...

    Yes, points are a part of FTN.


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  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to shinobi on Mon Mar 18 15:01:18 2019
    Hello All,

    I wonder. Is there any way to configure FTN Point in Mystic? Does it make sense? Or it's rather BINKP used to communicate between Nodes & HUBS and it's expected for Points to send mail via QWK?

    Points can be setup with Mystic and should work just the same as any other full node (using BINKP). The only thing that is different between a point node
    and a full node is the address as a .# in it!

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  • From Shinobi@21:1/153.1 to g00r00 on Tue Mar 19 00:29:27 2019
    Hello g00r00,

    I do confirm the Point is possible to set-up.

    As I wrote FEddy-1.4.05 and BinkD-1.1a-99 is what I compiled
    and trying to use.

    Despite we are on Fun And Simple Experimental Network I hope
    I won't break anything by using software from 1999.

    Best regards

    Shinobi

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to shinobi on Mon Mar 18 22:28:13 2019
    I have a point off my Mystic, I setup my CNet Amiga as a point so I don't
    have to get new addresses for it. It's very easy to do.. Let me know if you need help..

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to shinobi on Tue Mar 19 23:57:37 2019
    On 18 Mar 2019 at 07:47a, shinobi pondered and said...

    I wonder. Is there any way to configure FTN Point in Mystic? Does it make sense? Or it's rather BINKP used to communicate between Nodes & HUBS and it's expected for Points to send mail via QWK?

    You can use BinkP for points and (I guess) QWK... I have not used QWK (sad eh?).

    To set up a point system you want to send test packets to from your system, just create a new echomail node, use your main fsxNet address and include a point number in it e.g. 1

    e.g.

    █▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀ Node ID 12 (21:1/153.1@fsxnet) ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
    █ Active │ Yes 1:GENERAL
    █ Description │ Test Point system 2:Security
    █ SysOp Name │ Shinobi 3:Groups
    █ Address │ 21:1/153.1 4:BinkP
    █ Domain │ fsxnet 5:FTP
    █ Session Type │ BinkP 6:Dir Toss
    █ Archive Type │ ZIP
    █ Export Type │ Normal
    █ Route Info │
    █ Max PKT Size │ 512
    █ Max ARC Size │ 2048
    █ Use Filebox │ No
    █ Filebox Dir │
    █ Crash Limiter │ 0
    █ │ Page 1 of 6

    Then link echos and files to the echonode and MUTIL will toss them just like they do for any other system you have echomail nodes set up for.

    As a rule netmail destined for a point address will be routed via the main 1/153 address so your system in effect becomes a mini-hub for the point
    systems :)

    Hope that helps.

    Best, Paul

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  • From shinobi@21:1/153 to Avon on Tue Mar 19 12:05:51 2019
    You can use BinkP for points and (I guess) QWK... I have not used QWK
    (sad eh?).

    Yes, the QWK route work too. I guess. De-Facto QWK doesn't really care about Your address so much. At least I think.

    To set up a point system you want to send test packets to from your system, just create a new echomail node, use your main fsxNet address
    and include a point number in it e.g. 1

    Thank You the Mystic configuration went well. What I was afraid of was the compilation process of the tool from source. It threw quite a lot of errors. And when I rescanned the areas I received one weird message. That message was tossed into NetMail from FSX_GET Forum and it seemed like the message base on the Point was corrupted.

    I'm not really sure whether if I'd use it I wouldn't send some binary mess. That's why I'll continue testing on separated Net. Just for sure.

    Hope that helps.

    Thank You it helped a lot.

    Best regards

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Wed Mar 20 18:18:00 2019
    On 03-19-19 19:57, Avon wrote to shinobi <=-

    You can use BinkP for points and (I guess) QWK... I have not used QWK
    (sad eh?).

    QWK doesn't support FTN addressing, so it can't be used as a point, strictly speaking.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Thu Mar 21 13:56:31 2019
    On 20 Mar 2019 at 02:18p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

    QWK doesn't support FTN addressing, so it can't be used as a point, strictly speaking.

    Noted thanks Tony :)

    Best, Paul

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  • From shinobi@21:1/153 to Avon on Thu Mar 21 02:16:38 2019
    On 20 Mar 2019 at 02:18p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

    QWK doesn't support FTN addressing, so it can't be used as a point, strictly speaking.

    Noted thanks Tony :)


    There is very nice tutorial on Kuehler's box. It's in German. But it
    is understandable. I'd strongly advise anyone who would like to experiment
    with it not to use old, with inactive development or unsupported software.

    See this:

    https://www.stimpyrama.org/blog/17-computer/138-ftnsetup#h2-husky

    Use Husky, BINKD and GoldED. And if that's possible the newest one.

    Before anyone setup theirs point it's a good idea to make sure one would
    send many messages in between separate BBS and not to the active network
    so he/she would be totally sure Nodes can receive and send mails without hurdle. I did setup experimental network for this. The tutorial above seems alright at this point.

    I'm planning to have some more real testing. And I wouldn't dare to use
    it on live network.

    Best regards

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Avon on Thu Mar 21 12:27:00 2019
    On 03-21-19 09:56, Avon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    On 20 Mar 2019 at 02:18p, Vk3jed pondered and said...

    QWK doesn't support FTN addressing, so it can't be used as a point, strictly speaking.

    Noted thanks Tony :)

    Someone hanging a QWK "point" off their BBS is actually running a gateway.


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